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AS LONG A ITS NOT THESE TWO

Ronny Shade said:only if he can do an american accent, Norm
StorminNorman said:Your right Keyser of course, but I always so a similarity to the character of Bruce Wayne and Harry Potter - or atleast the potential for it. Thus it was that idea that made me want Radcliffe to play Robin.
Maybe Radcliffe for Terry McGuiness? LOL
Keyser Sushi said:Dan Radcliffe is a decent actor, and a right bloke. Also he's got the physicality. He looks rather strong.
However I think he's too recognizeable an actor, now. And he's on the verge of being too old, if you want my opinion.
I'm in the minority who actually thinks that Robin should be cast young. Not TOO young, as if he's too young, he can't really be a good fighter, but if he's too old it demeans the actor and the character.
Robin should be between 13 to 14 years old. He should be a very intense, angry kid. Anybody who thinks a 13 year old boy can't carry off rage doesn't remember what it's like to be a 13 year old boy, and probably has led a very comfortable life.
A 13 year old orphan would be VERY pissed off pretty much of the time. I think that's important. A younger kid will be more dramatically affected by his parents' death (as Bruce was) and would begin his training at the age that Bruce did (in the comics). The difference is that Robin has a Batman to train under.
For people who say that Batman would never endanger a child, you miss the obvious question: suppose the kid was going to go out and try to avenge his parents regardless of what Bruce did? If Bruce couldn't stop Dick from trying to avenge his parents, then the obvious way to ensure Dick's safety is to make sure he's got the training to pull it off. Focus his rage and his guilt into something constructive, as Bruce did.
Now, with all of that said... I love the character of Robin but I don't think he should be in the movies, ever. Just because by and large people prefer Batman solo anyway. I do, too, as much as I like Robin. Oh well...
Ronny Shade said:That was beautiful. It goes perfectly with everything Robin should be.
I would be happy to see Robin in a 4th or 5th movie or later, especially if theyre just gonna keep making Batman movies like Bond movies (except theyd be good) I definitely want him later on down the line. If this is gonna be a 3-movie franchise and then end() then there are more important things to do than Robin.
Keyser Sushi said:You're right about Harry Potter and Bruce Wayne, though. I especially enjoyed Harry's angry stage in "Order of the Phoenix". He was a right git for a while there, but it was so understandable. Harry is an orphan who is a hero, who is going to avenge his parents, who is a symbol of hope for his people.
And I do hope Dan Radcliffe, if he wants to continue acting after HP, can avoid the inevitable typecasting box people are going to want to stick him in. Giving him another iconic character to play can help that, I think - like Patrick Stewart being Charles Xavier.
And, as I said, I do believe that Radcliffe could play the role, no question. I think he'd be a good Terry McGinnis, too.![]()
Ronny Shade said:I think whoever's gonna play Terry McGinnis is totally under the radar right now. Because they're not gonna make that movie for a few years yet, if that. Radcliffe would not be my first choice. Instead I think Keyser and I should collaborate on a script and come up with a new iconic hero for him to play.
Ronny Shade said:
...but don't you have to be 35 to be a Senator?
Seriously why do we have to change his race to make him more realistic? Also, why perpetuate the stereotype that only Asians, well, actually Orientals (cause I'm not sure Russians are very good at martial arts) are the only ones good at martial arts. A white kid from the city could study and master martial arts. Or we could actually follow the comics and have him be an acrobat, which DO exist.Ronny Shade said:I think Robin should be a 14 year old Asian martial arts prodigy. One of those kids you see on like kung fu world championship ages 13-15. The origin would have to be totally different, but the acrobat thing doesnt make that much sense.
Keyser Sushi said:Dan Radcliffe is a decent actor, and a right bloke. Also he's got the physicality. He looks rather strong.
However I think he's too recognizeable an actor, now. And he's on the verge of being too old, if you want my opinion.
I'm in the minority who actually thinks that Robin should be cast young. Not TOO young, as if he's too young, he can't really be a good fighter, but if he's too old it demeans the actor and the character.
Robin should be between 13 to 14 years old. He should be a very intense, angry kid. Anybody who thinks a 13 year old boy can't carry off rage doesn't remember what it's like to be a 13 year old boy, and probably has led a very comfortable life.
A 13 year old orphan would be VERY pissed off pretty much of the time. I think that's important. A younger kid will be more dramatically affected by his parents' death (as Bruce was) and would begin his training at the age that Bruce did (in the comics). The difference is that Robin has a Batman to train under.
For people who say that Batman would never endanger a child, you miss the obvious question: suppose the kid was going to go out and try to avenge his parents regardless of what Bruce did? If Bruce couldn't stop Dick from trying to avenge his parents, then the obvious way to ensure Dick's safety is to make sure he's got the training to pull it off. Focus his rage and his guilt into something constructive, as Bruce did.
Now, with all of that said... I love the character of Robin but I don't think he should be in the movies, ever. Just because by and large people prefer Batman solo anyway. I do, too, as much as I like Robin. Oh well...
Katsuro said:My feeling exactly, except for the end. If this franchise goes past 3 films, Robin should be introduced in the 4th. Personally, I think Robin's a cool character who just gets a bad rap because of negative misconceptions about the character. The comics of the 50s and 60s and the old TV show dont help at all. Putting Robin in a movie and actually making him dark and serious could do wonders for the character and show people that hes not just some annoying kid in pixie boots.
Well, many martial arts of of Asian origin (Karate, Kung-fu, Ninjitsu). In that highly unlikely portrayal of Robin, he'd be from a (probably) Chinese family who is steeped in the tradition of a particular martial art. He would have been training practically since birth. It's less likely an American couple is going to do that to their kid. He would be orphaned in the film and have a new sensei in Batman rather than his Father or Uncle or whoever it was before. It's just an idea.Robin91939 said:Seriously why do we have to change his race to make him more realistic? Also, why perpetuate the stereotype that only Asians, well, actually Orientals (cause I'm not sure Russians are very good at martial arts) are the only ones good at martial arts. A white kid from the city could study and master martial arts. Or we could actually follow the comics and have him be an acrobat, which DO exist.
I actually like what Frank Miller is doing with the Robin origin. Having Batman have his eye on him for a while as a recruit.
-R
Robin91939 said:Haley Joel Osment has gotten real weird and goofy looking. He doesn't look right as Robin.
I would prefer Tylor Hochilen, though he's too old now or maybe Zac Effron.
-R