How to introduce Captain America: Solo or Team?

[Compi716]

Captain America will show up on film eventually. It is inevitable.

The only question is, HOW? Should he debut in his own solo film, or should he be the star of a team movie - more specifically, THE AVENGERS (similar to The Ultimates).

Personally, I think it would work well if he was the star of The Avengers. The opening scene could the classic D-Day sequence, then he gets frozen, then the movie cuts to modern day, he's unfrozen, and is a man out of his time, yada yada yada. You get the point.

What do you guys think?

 

[Spider-Fan]

Solo WWII movie first, and make him the main character of The Avengers.

That or solo with both eras (balanced delicately).

Either way, I would do a Cap solo first.

 

[odiin]

Captain America will show up on film eventually. It is inevitable.

The only question is, HOW? Should he debut in his own solo film, or should he be the star of a team movie - more specifically, THE AVENGERS (similar to The Ultimates).

Personally, I think it would work well if he was the star of The Avengers. The opening scene could the classic D-Day sequence, then he gets frozen, then the movie cuts to modern day, he's unfrozen, and is a man out of his time, yada yada yada. You get the point.

What do you guys think?

So basically... just be exactly she same as the Ultimate Avengers DTV?

Solo film first, please. 50% in the 40s, and 50% now, just as they were saying. I would rather not have Avengers focus on Captain America because it's supposed to be the AVENGERS film, not the Captain America film, that just so happens to have the other avengers members in it.

 

[Spider-Fan]

So basically... just be exactly she same as the Ultimate Avengers DTV?

Solo film first, please. 50% in the 40s, and 50% now, just as they were saying. I would rather not have Avengers focus on Captain America because it's supposed to be the AVENGERS film, not the Captain America film, that just so happens to have the other avengers members in it.

The split for WWII and modern should definately be 50-50 each if an entire WWII movie won't be done.

Cap will be the main focus of an Avengers movie anyway (being the leader of the group). Though bringing him to the modern days would take a lot of focus from the other members most definately.

 

[Compi716]

So basically... just be exactly she same as the Ultimate Avengers DTV?

I was thinking more along the lines of how it was done in the comic.

You've got to admit, The Ultimates has "cinematic" written all over it.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I was thinking more along the lines of how it was done in the comic.

You've got to admit, The Ultimates has "cinematic" written all over it.

I disagree. Some aspects of the Ultimates are great for Cap (like how they did Bucky, his visit to Arlington National Cemetary, and things like that), but WWII needs more exposure (as that is what made Cap). We need to get to know Cap, not have people make random jokes about how he hates rap or is like dating their father like in the Ultimates. I want to understand Cap and see what he lost. That makes his story great.

Plus, no WWII villainous aliens. Cap's enemy in WWII MUST be The Red Skull. Anything else is just stupid.

 

[Compi716]

We need to get to know Cap, not have people make random jokes about how he hates rap or is like dating their father like in the Ultimates. I want to understand Cap and see what he lost. That makes his story great.

Plus, no WWII villainous aliens. Cap's enemy in WWII MUST be The Red Skull. Anything else is just stupid.

Agreed.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Definitely Solo. Needs in-depth intro to the character.

 

[Artistsean]

His original introduction was solo, back during WWII.
Then he was brought back as part of a team, Avengers.

Even though the movie is going to start with him in WWII, and then frozen and then brought back during 2007, I think the whole film should be a solo.

If he is introduced into a film with the rest of the Avengers (even if the Avengers film is a sequal) he and his origin will get lost.

 

[Denny67]

I like the idea of having him solo in the first movie. The movie can revolve around his WWII origin transitioning to him feeling out of place in a new time when he is thawed. I would really like them to spend some time with Cap in the 1940’s. The audience needs to get a feel for who he is and what he meant to the war along with everything he went through. The pain of war should be integral to his character along with his bravery, moral fiber and what he was fighting to get back to.

This would make the impact of waking up in a different time and what America has become compared to what it was so much more significant. He could get caught up in a whirlwind of events that has him falling back into the role of Captain America without thinking about it. Along the way leaning this is not the Country he knew and fought for.

I think this movie can be used to send a very powerful message and if done correctly can get a lot of people talking about some social/moral issues and real get people asking, what does it mean now and what should it mean to be an American?

The movie could end on a very contemplative but hopeful note. The next movie will start up as the Avengers movie. He will learn that there are in fact heroes still fighting for what is right and trying to make not only America but the world a better place.

It is here he will find a new home in this new time.

My hope with the Avengers movie is that character development will be used to emphasize each charters importance and how impressive they are. Thing I loved about the JLA is when Superman who is all but a walking god would look at Batman, a mortal with both fear and respect. It is that kind of character play that gives weight to each hero and help build the mythology.

 

[Turtle-Man]

Instead of having him be 'thawed out', why don't we just change the WWII setting to some modern, fictional war? The technology used to create the Super Soldier formula would be more fitting for the 21st century than the 1940's. This way, we can excuse him from being subjected to 'frozen in time' for 60 years.


1: BUCKY SHOULD NOT APPEAR IN THESE FILMS!

2: Why don't they modernize the setting?

3: Captain America should get his own film/films. The Avengers film should be a spinoff type thing.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Captain America will show up on film eventually. It is inevitable.

The only question is, HOW? Should he debut in his own solo film, or should he be the star of a team movie - more specifically, THE AVENGERS (similar to The Ultimates).

Personally, I think it would work well if he was the star of The Avengers. The opening scene could the classic D-Day sequence, then he gets frozen, then the movie cuts to modern day, he's unfrozen, and is a man out of his time, yada yada yada. You get the point.

What do you guys think?

I think we already saw that in the Ultimate Avengers cartoon.

Solo movie, set in WWII, imo.

 

[Chris B]

Solo movie with at least one sequel. In regards to a hypothetical Avengers movie, I want Cap, Thor, Iron Man, and the Hulk to all get 2-3 solo films before teaming them up.

 

[The_Mystery]

Cap's first movie should be a half-period/half-modern day movie.

 

[The Geek Vault]

When I read the title of this I understood this differently,
Do you guys think he should be shown fighting in WWII by himself or should he be with the invaders? Human Torch, Spit Fire, Whizzer, Namor etc. ?

 

[CaptainCanada]

Instead of having him be 'thawed out', why don't we just change the WWII setting to some modern, fictional war?

Because that undercuts the whole damn point of the character?

Anyway, a solo movie covering both WWII and the modern era should come first; it's unfair to all the others heroes to saddle an Avengers movie with introducing him (and keep in mind that an Avengers film would star people like Robert Downey Jr. and Edward Norton, also the stars of major superhero films; if anything, Cap needs his own solo film first to establish some box office clout, otherwise it would be difficult to justify giving a prominent role to a new character while film-tested ones are available).

Do you guys think he should be shown fighting in WWII by himself or should he be with the invaders? Human Torch, Spit Fire, Whizzer, Namor etc. ?

I'd love to see them on film, but in the name of economy, they should probably be left out (the rights to Namor are elsewhere, too).

 

[Steve Rogers]

I guess the Ultimate Avengers approach could work. 10 minute intro establishing Cap's backstory in WWII. Rest of the film with the Avengers.

 

[gambit_890]

I personally I'm not the biggest Captian America fan...if anything I think he would steal the spot-light from the rest of the Advengers because hes like the "superman" of the comics everyone loved him. If you give him his own movie he can star in then perhaps when they make an Advengers movie, Cap won't be the center-piece (b/c everyone already knows his story) and finally the other Advengers will have their due.

 

[Sun_Down]

Solo film - either a WWII period piece or a mix of WWII and present-day.

 

[FVD]

I actually like the idea of Cap getting a full fleshed out WWII movie. The Avengers thawing out Cap in the present tense in a followup movie is a brilliant idea.

And I agree no bloody aliens like in Ultimate Avengers. Red Skull, Baron Zemo etc. Bring it on.

 

[Steve Rogers]

And I agree no bloody aliens like in Ultimate Avengers. Red Skull, Baron Zemo etc. Bring it on.

Amen to that! When I read the Ultimates I was pretty pissed to learn the Nazis Cap had been fighting were aliens. I suppose it would politically incorrect to still portray Germans as Nazis 60 years later.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Instead of having him be 'thawed out', why don't we just change the WWII setting to some modern, fictional war? The technology used to create the Super Soldier formula would be more fitting for the 21st century than the 1940's. This way, we can excuse him from being subjected to 'frozen in time' for 60 years.


1: BUCKY SHOULD NOT APPEAR IN THESE FILMS!

2: Why don't they modernize the setting?

3: Captain America should get his own film/films. The Avengers film should be a spinoff type thing.

I think the Ultimates approach for Bucky would be the way to go. Have him be his best friend in WWII (not his super-sidekick), and have him be an old man in today's period. It would help us see what he has lost even more.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Solo,Captain America is a legendary character.He does not need to be part of a group in film.

 

[Bruce Banner]

Solo, origin story.

 

[MakeMineMarvel]

Origin story, with Bucky, but Bucky dies before it ends. The first C.A. movie ends with a shot of Cap in suspended animation before the credits roll. The sequel takes place in present time.