Justice League How would you feel about John Stewart amd Wally West instead of Hal and Barry?

[TheWatcher]

Ok screw it.

They'll both be in it t:

 

[MadVillainy]

I'd prefer Wally to Barry so much

 

[TheWatcher]

I'd prefer Barry because I want the movies to get the generational thing right.

 

[MadVillainy]

i honestly think you'd get that more with Wally than with Barry.

You can't do Wally right without having Barry, so (for solo films) Barry will need to have a presence. Jay also played a big part in Wally's story, so he should be in there. And then in a sequel if they wanna introduce sidekicks there is Impulse.

By a 2nd film you could have all 4 main Flashes, showcasing the generation/legacy aspect. With Barry i don't really think they'd explore any farther than wally (if we're lucky)

 

[TheWatcher]

I think Barry should die in the second or third JLA film.

 

[charl_huntress]

The Flash is one hero who I know very little about. Can anyone explain the generation differences?

 

[HighFivingMF]

I'd really really really really rather see Barry get to ride off into the sunset with Iris while Wally takes over. Like the original ending before Crisis had to drag him back and murder his skin off.

 

[brainchild81]

I know what you're saying. Don't call me "lil' slow on the uptake", that crap will get you banned.

You're trying to say that John Stewart is more important and popular than Hal Jordan, which just doesn't compute.

Stop being so damn childish.

lol. That's what I think when you tell me

Just stop. Seriously, nothing you say makes any sense.

That's a childish copout. Tell me that you disagree or make some type of counterpoint to what I say. Don't tell me to stop anything just because you don't agree. I think John's more popular w/the mainstream and I have a right to post my opinion. It's not that hard to understand.

 

[MadVillainy]

The Flash is one hero who I know very little about. Can anyone explain the generation differences?

To put it relatively shortly and Going off the preDCnu storyline
Jay Garrick was the first Flash in the 1940s, eventually the mantle is taken up by Barry (the first one to wear the classic red jumpsuit costume)

Eventually Barry gets a sidekick Kid Flash whose real name is Wally West. They do their crimefighting thing for years, but Barry is killed during Crisis on Infinite Earths and Wally takes up the mantle of The Flash.

Wally eventually gets a visit from Bart Allen, Barry Allen's grandson who has from the future (I'm still not 100% sure how it happened/what happened in Bart's intro, I never read it). Bart eventually becomes Impluse and later Kid Flash.

Other things happen such as Wally leaving to go into the speed force (the thing where all speedsters in the DCU get their powers) and Bart taking the mantle of FLash, then dying, then coming back. Along with Barry coming back from the dead and becoming as Flash which happened in 08 right?

I think that's basically the long and short of it. I mean it's more complicated than that but I think thats the basic outline, leaving out some stuff. If you want more in depth stuff check out wikipedia

 

[charl_huntress]

To put it relatively shortly and Going off the preDCnu storyline
Jay Garrick was the first Flash in the 1940s, eventually the mantle is taken up by Barry (the first one to wear the classic red jumpsuit costume)

Eventually Barry gets a sidekick Kid Flash whose real name is Wally West. They do their crimefighting thing for years, but Barry is killed during Crisis on Infinite Earths and Wally takes up the mantle of The Flash.

Wally eventually gets a visit from Bart Allen, Barry Allen's grandson who has from the future (I'm still not 100% sure how it happened/what happened in Bart's intro, I never read it). Bart eventually becomes Impluse and later Kid Flash.

Other things happen such as Wally leaving to go into the speed force (the thing where all speedsters in the DCU get their powers) and Bart taking the mantle of FLash, then dying, then coming back. Along with Barry coming back from the dead and becoming as Flash which happened in 08 right?

I think that's basically the long and short of it. I mean it's more complicated than that but I think thats the basic outline, leaving out some stuff. If you want more in depth stuff check out wikipedia

Wow....talk about convuluted. So I guess my question after reading this is why not use Jay as the Flash...similar to what MCU did with Marvel and Cap America? I mean why not just start from the first Flash.

 

[MadVillainy]

I dont really see a point in using Jay first.
Eventually, I would like to see a young Jay, along with the rest of the JSA in a period piece film. But why would they use Jay, espeically if theyre gonna make a JL movie, when they will flash forward to present time and have Jay be old while the rest of the team Bats, Supes, Wondy, etc will probably not look to be over their 40s

Cap is different because he was frozen and thawed. If Cap wasnt frozen and was a hero older than 70 it'd be different

 

[charl_huntress]

I dont really see a point in using Jay first.

Cap is different because he was frozen and thawed. If Cap wasnt frozen and was a hero older than 70 it'd be different

So, I guess my question is do you need introduce Jay for their to be Wally or Barry? Why not skip Jay altogether?

 

[brainchild81]

They won't use Jay. I'd like them to go w/Wally but DC doesn't seem to give a damn about him nowadays. I only get to see him on YJ and that seems like it's getting canceled. Barry's cool too tho

 

[Panthro]

Perhaps the question we should be asking is - will the DC guys want WB to embrace the true legacy of the Flash or or willt hey push to ignore it in favor of all this 52 nonsense where Wally doesn't exist but we're stuck with Bart while Jay's off in another dimension?

 

[HighFivingMF]

Well, DC isn't in charge of the movies.

 

[charl_huntress]

Since when?

I thought WB = DC....

 

[brainchild81]

WB owns DC

 

[HighFivingMF]

Since when?

I thought WB = DC....

Warner Bros. owns DC Comics, thus WB Pictures has the rights to all of DC's properties, unless otherwise sold like with RED.

 

[Changeling]

Nobody's saying John doesn't have exposure/recognition. Just that Hal has more.

Dude is your screen name named after the Local H song? If so thats a great band t:

 

[charl_huntress]

WB owns DC

Warner Bros. owns DC Comics, thus WB Pictures has the rights to all of DC's properties, unless otherwise sold like with RED.

I did figure that, but I was more saying without being witty why wouldn't WB/DC make that decision? Seems like a logical one.

 

[MadVillainy]

So, I guess my question is do you need introduce Jay for their to be Wally or Barry? Why not skip Jay altogether?

Having Jay showcases the legacy aspect of the Flash character. One of the reasons why I like the hero

 

[DaveMoral]

If you're gonna do Jay Garrick, you might as well do Justice Society before Justice League... because there's that generational legacy aspect between the JSA and the JLA. Heck, even Bats has a connection to Wildcat, if you're going that route.

 

[TheWatcher]

lol. That's what I think when you tell me That's a childish copout. Tell me that you disagree or make some type of counterpoint to what I say. Don't tell me to stop anything just because you don't agree. I think John's more popular w/the mainstream and I have a right to post my opinion. It's not that hard to understand.

Sorry, but I have explained my point, as have others who agree with me.

Besides, I think we were on different subjects. You were talking about John getting his own movie, I was talking about Hal in JLA.

Truce?

The Flash is one hero who I know very little about. Can anyone explain the generation differences?

Jay is the first Flash, from when the JSA first formed in the early 40's(Dont ask how he's only in his 50's, DC does some weird things.)
^You can ignore that with with the Earth Two stuff if you want.

Barry is the first Flash as we know him.

Wally became Kid Flash shortly after. Barry dies years after that when Wally is about 20. Wally becomes Flash and Impulse arrives from the future.

 

[brainchild81]

Truce?

Truce


I'm not sure if they should do the legacy thing or even mention the speed force.

 

[TheWatcher]

I'm iffy on Jay and Bart. Lot's of complications with them.

Definitely Barry and Wally.