Justice League How would you feel about John Stewart amd Wally West instead of Hal and Barry?

[The Guard]

Ok, I remember that now, so the "superhero Bloodwynd" was always J'onn?

 

[spider-neil]

I grew up on Wally west and loved the Stewart on the Justice League cartoon and now I'm being forced feed Hal Jordan and Barry Allen because Geoff Jones loves those characters.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Geoff Johns loves Wally West too. He wrote his most acclaimed Flash run in a story that could only work for Wally.

The New 52 is possibly even a WB mandate. DC just chose Barry because he needs some limelight after being gone for 25 years.

With John, you're not being force fed anything. He just can't carry his own series, he always needs another co-star.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

How do we know John Stewart can't carry his own film?

Blade carried his own franchise better than the much more popular Punisher.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Nobody said he couldn't?

 

[DaveMoral]

How do we know John Stewart can't carry his own film?

Blade carried his own franchise better than the much more popular Punisher.

John can't carry his own comic series.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

John can't carry his own comic series.

Neither can Blade compared to Punisher.

But the Blade movies consistently out-grossed Punisher's. How is that possible???

 

[TheWatcher]

What does Blade have to do with John Stewart other than he is black?

Blade carried his film series because he has a cool backstory, not to mention everyone loves vampires.

 

[DaveMoral]

What does Blade have to do with John Stewart other than he is black?

Blade carried his film series because he has a cool backstory, not to mention everyone loves vampires.

And kung fu.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

What does Blade have to do with John Stewart other than he is black?

Blade carried his film series because he has a cool backstory, not to mention everyone loves vampires.

Bingo.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

What does Blade have to do with John Stewart other than he is black?

Blade carried his film series because he has a cool backstory, not to mention everyone loves vampires.

What is unpopular in comics doesn't always equal unpopularity at the box office.

Avenger comic books are about the same level of popularity as X-men comics. But at the movie theater, Avengers is 3 to 4 times more popular.

Like I said, for comic book movies, it comes down to execution.

A John Stewart movie could easily out-perform the last Green Lantern movie if executed right.

 

[Venom'sDad]

John Stewart would be much better...he's a more dynamic character. It's almost impossible for me to choose between Barry/Wally.....Wally has more personality however, and we all know, personality goes a long ways.

 

[HighFivingMF]

John Stewart would be much better...he's a more dynamic character.

What?

 

[Venom'sDad]

What?

John Stewart would be much better...he's a more dynamic character.

 

[Silvermoth]

I would kind of expect it to be honest and wouldn't at all be offended.

 

[DaveMoral]

John Stewart would be much better...he's a more dynamic character.

Since when?

Here's the summation of John Stewart's character: "I killed a planet. Let the whole Corps hate me. I killed Mogo, a GL planet. Let the Corps hate me. I killed a fellow GL, let the Corps hate me and the Alpha Lanterns execute me. It must be done!"

 

[brainchild81]

Since the JL show aired it's 1st ep. Nobody cares about how badly he's been written in the comics

John Stewart would be much better...he's a more dynamic character.

Ditto

John Stewart would be a bigger flop in a solo film. Believe it. He barely had stories to himself in JL/JLU, most of the time he was a supporting character to Bats, Supes, and WW.

He did have some to himself tho. He carried them well & they were ALL better than Hal's film. You're assuming John will fail just because Hal did. John's waaaaaay more interesting IMO. Badass space marine sounds waaaaay better than Hal's flop and would probably make more money. Hal didn't set the bar very high

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Hal Jordan is a badass space cop who was also in the military. But insubordinate, hence his aggression to the Guardians.

What if they decide to go with John Stewart the paraplegic architect?

 

[brainchild81]

They'd be bigger fools than I thought. Why do you ask? Hal wasn't a MARINE. Pilots simply don't have the badass reputation that marines do.

Question to all Hal fans: Did they capture Hal's personality from the comics in the RR flick?

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

No, not really. They tried to make him too much of an over confident dick, that you were helpless to like. It did not work. He had been like that sometimes, but not very often.

I'd consider "Green Lantern"'s Hal Jordan as Hal Jordan's version of "Batman & Robin".

 

[DaveMoral]

You keep saying "badass space marine" but John Stewart has rarely been that. Even in JLU. He had like 3 or 4 episodes to himself in 4 seasons. At least 2 of those were John mostly chained up and on trial and submitting to it. The rest of the series he was clearly a subordinate of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. Whenever people bring up John in relation to "team dynamic" this is precisely what they refer to... he easily takes a backseat to Bats and Supes.

I think the most interesting thing to do with Justice League is that clash of personalities, and you're not going to get that out of any incarnation of John Stewart. Hal Jordan has a stronger personality for such a storyline. And I think it more likely for JL to have Batman, Superman and Green Lantern as leads than Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman if for no other reason than WB hasn't even seriously attepted to put WW on the big screen to introduce her character and mythos(and they've failed hard on a TV pilot that strayed far from the roots). GL, regardless of the flopping of the movie, has way more exposure to the demographics they will be aiming for.

Also, I'm 33. I grew up on fighter pilots, not marines. Top Gun. Iron Eagle. X-wing fighter pilots. To me Hal Jordan's military background is much more romantic and fitting for a guy that flies around in space.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Question to all Hal fans: Did they capture Hal's personality from the comics in the RR flick?

His personality for the origin, yeah.

 

[TheWatcher]

You keep saying "badass space marine" but John Stewart has rarely been that. Even in JLU. He had like 3 or 4 episodes to himself in 4 seasons. At least 2 of those were John mostly chained up and on trial and submitting to it. The rest of the series he was clearly a subordinate of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. Whenever people bring up John in relation to "team dynamic" this is precisely what they refer to... he easily takes a backseat to Bats and Supes.

I think the most interesting thing to do with Justice League is that clash of personalities, and you're not going to get that out of any incarnation of John Stewart. Hal Jordan has a stronger personality for such a storyline. And I think it more likely for JL to have Batman, Superman and Green Lantern as leads than Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman if for no other reason than WB hasn't even seriously attepted to put WW on the big screen to introduce her character and mythos(and they've failed hard on a TV pilot that strayed far from the roots). GL, regardless of the flopping of the movie, has way more exposure to the demographics they will be aiming for.

Also, I'm 33. I grew up on fighter pilots, not marines. Top Gun. Iron Eagle. X-wing fighter pilots. To me Hal Jordan's military background is much more romantic and fitting for a guy that flies around in space.

This 100x.

There is no need for another stoic and quiet personality in the League. It needs a Han Solo.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Stewart has an inner strength I think works well in this group. Hal has an arrogant persona that is not needed. There are other members who can deliver that characteristic within the group, that is probably better suited.

 

[DaveMoral]

Stewart has an inner strength I think works well in this group. Hal has an arrogant persona that is not needed. There are other members who can deliver that characteristic within the group, that is probably better suited.

Such as?

Every Green Lantern has an inner stength suited to the Justice League. Hence why they are GLs, "the ability to overcome great fear." If they go with a JL that puts GL into the main character role with Batman and Superman, John Stewart is not the guy for the job. With the GL push of late, that's where I think this is headed. John Stewart has no advantages over Hal Jordan in this department. The best asset that's been cited for him is "team dynamic" which translates into "supporting character for the DC Trinity" as it did in JL(U). I doubt that's where WB is hoping to go even with the failure of the GL movie to deliver.

Hal's arrogance is an origin trait any way. JL will probably present a more matured Hal. One that is a leader in his own right, who has rallied the GLC troops. As the cop in charge of Sector 2814 GL should be vying for leadership of the Justice League and not taking a backseat to Batman and Superman so readily. A GL has the power to defend a sector of the universe against almost any threat.