Justice League How would you feel about John Stewart amd Wally West instead of Hal and Barry?

[Human Torch]

No. They need to act like the guy that had the movie that flopped and got bad reviews doesn't exist. No sense in making the same mistake twice

By your logic Man of Steel shouldn't be made because Superman Returns failed.

 

[HighFivingMF]

By your logic Man of Steel shouldn't be made because Superman Returns failed.

Naw. Just shoulda starred Mon-El.

 

[Human Torch]

Naw. Just shoulda starred Mon-El.

 

[brainchild81]

By your logic Man of Steel shouldn't be made because Superman Returns failed.

False. I wouldn't care either way tho because I'm not a fan. Supes is an icon and has shown that he can be a box office draw in the past. Hal isn't and didn't

 

[TheWatcher]

And John will?

 

[The Guard]

The suicidal/depressed thing. What was it? How did it sort of happen in the cartoon?

Oh. He thought he blew up a planet because Kanjar Ro/The Manhunters faked its destruction. When he was put on trial for it, he decided he'd rather be executed for his crime than try to escape or plead his case. After that happened, he kind of had to find himself again for an episode or two.

 

[cleverusername8]

I do agree, however, with what the cartoon makers said about the team dynamic being improved in the show with John. I mean, the team dynamic is one of the things that makes me love that show and they really fit John in there well.

Like I said before, I don't know enough about Green Lantern lore or backgrounds but I think that if they reworked the character like they did with the cartoon, they could fit John into a live action Justice League movie well as they probably could with Wally (no one seems to give him love any more in this topic XD).

I'm not saying that John would stand up well in his own movie- that's not what we're arguing over in this thread. I'm saying that he could work in the team setting presented in what's looking like will be a standalone universe in a Justice League movie. They could play off of the seasoned marine attribute and maybe play into how John knows the effects of war on civilians better than any of the other League members and will take considerations based on that in battle. I'm just saying it could be fun.

They could probably find ways to use Kyle as well. I'm not for or against any Lantern here.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Everyone saying John improved the team dynamic, which other team dynamic are you comparing it to?

 

[brainchild81]

I'm saying all versions b4 AND after. The one on The Batman was horrible. The Superfriends & Superpowers were also inferior. The JL comics don't hold my interest. The only JL that came close was the one used on B:TB&TB. They were entertaining

And John will?

If they introduce him properly in the JL film and have him do badass marine-turned-GL stuff and have him say some cool ****, I'd say he has a good chance at making a good profit. They also shouldn't mention Hal or his film. I hope that Hal's film hasn't done too much damage already

I do agree, however, with what the cartoon makers said about the team dynamic being improved in the show with John. I mean, the team dynamic is one of the things that makes me love that show and they really fit John in there well.

Like I said before, I don't know enough about Green Lantern lore or backgrounds but I think that if they reworked the character like they did with the cartoon, they could fit John into a live action Justice League movie well as they probably could with Wally (no one seems to give him love any more in this topic XD).

I'm not saying that John would stand up well in his own movie- that's not what we're arguing over in this thread. I'm saying that he could work in the team setting presented in what's looking like will be a standalone universe in a Justice League movie. They could play off of the seasoned marine attribute and maybe play into how John knows the effects of war on civilians better than any of the other League members and will take considerations based on that in battle. I'm just saying it could be fun.

Ditto

Oh. He thought he blew up a planet because Kanjar Ro/The Manhunters faked its destruction. When he was put on trial for it, he decided he'd rather be executed for his crime than try to escape or plead his case. After that happened, he kind of had to find himself again for an episode or two.

I remember that ep. Don't remember him having to find himself in later eps. I'll look for them when they come on CW's VORTEX. That's very different from what llama said tho. I'm guessing he's talking about something else. He should answer me.

 

[TheWatcher]

Just stop. Seriously, nothing you say makes any sense.

 

[brainchild81]

The other posters seem to comprehend me fine even if they don't agree. You're probably just a lil' slow on the uptake based on what I've seen from your posts but don't worry lil' buddy. We're gonna get you thru this. Are there any adults or smart kids nearby that can explain things to you?

 

[HighFivingMF]

Anyone hear the Mod-Copters coming?

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I remember that ep. Don't remember him having to find himself in later eps. I'll look for them when they come on CW's VORTEX. That's very different from what llama said tho. I'm guessing he's talking about something else. He should answer me.

Justice League: World's Collide. A story involving the source of John Stewart and not Bruce Timm's elseworlds tale starring Samuel L Jackson. Because of his arrogance, billions of people died, and he tired to commit suicide.

Clearly you don't know anything about where the characters actually come from (as evidenced by only mentioning Superfriends JLU and The Batman, and not any Justice League title), which explains your ignorance.

Anyone hear the Mod-Copters coming?

We knew it was going to happen, and it kind of needs to. It's like when people discuss Brandon Routh in Henry Cavill's thread. Routh isn't in this movie, so the discussion is off topic, just like this whole thread is now. Time to shine the Mod-signal.

 

[brainchild81]

Then clearly you were wasting more post space when you brought that up to begin with. We are talking about cartoon John. Why would you bring up a comicbook story to show how a movie about cartoon John wouldn't be good? Does that make ANY sense?

 

[mace1]

People should stop calling that a fact. It's an opinion. Look back a few posts. They chose John because he's the most interesting and made for the best team dynamic, not just diversity. There's multiple reasons to choose him over Hal &no reason to choose Hal over him, especially not after Hal's failure. I think if WB starts to wise up they'll realise that. Hal's comic fans seem to be the only ones clamoring for more of him & there's not enough of them to keep a film from flopping. They need to act like he doesn't exist

True.

 

[brainchild81]

We knew it was going to happen, and it kind of needs to. It's like when people discuss Brandon Routh in Henry Cavill's thread. Routh isn't in this movie, so the discussion is off topic, just like this whole thread is now. Time to shine the Mod-signal.

How is this anything like the Henry Cavill thread? How is this whole thread off topic? Do you understand..........anything that's going on here?

 

[Zionite1]

People should stop calling that a fact. It's an opinion. Look back a few posts. They chose John because he's the most interesting and made for the best team dynamic, not just diversity. There's multiple reasons to choose him over Hal &no reason to choose Hal over him, especially not after Hal's failure. I think if WB starts to wise up they'll realise that. Hal's comic fans seem to be the only ones clamoring for more of him & there's not enough of them to keep a film from flopping. They need to act like he doesn't exist

lt is where you are wrong.Hal now has fans outside of comicbook audience thanks to the GL animated series and animated movies. John might have been more popular to the GA before but now.

Hal is currently in public eye and john may be fading to obscurity due to lack of public exposure in recent years.

One cld argue they are tied in terms of GA popularity due to their respective appearances in animated series with a slight edge going to Hal becuse he has the most recent appearances-he currently appears in the Gl animated series.

So who shld WB go for?Id say Hal.And no not that John is lame-It has been proven in the JL animated series that John can be awesome when well written.The reason why they shld go for Hal is

1. for Synergy with the animated films/series a synergy theyre pretty much stuck with him.
2.Its much harder to do a solo movie with John stewart than Hal especially if without a proper Hal solo movie preceding it.

You might argue that WB shld distance themselves from the GL 2011 movie and I agree.But they dont need to change Hal to do it.Simply recast/reboot.

 

[TheWatcher]

The other posters seem to comprehend me fine even if they don't agree. You're probably just a lil' slow on the uptake based on what I've seen from your posts but don't worry lil' buddy. We're gonna get you thru this. Are there any adults or smart kids nearby that can explain things to you?

I know what you're saying. Don't call me "lil' slow on the uptake", that crap will get you banned.

You're trying to say that John Stewart is more important and popular than Hal Jordan, which just doesn't compute.

Stop being so damn childish.

 

[Changeling]

The only GL books Ive read have starred Hal, John Kyle and Guy have made appearances but Ive mostly just read Geoff Johns run. Obviously because of that Im a Hal fan. But it would be best imo to get a recast of Hal or to make things easier, get John.

The way i see it, Ryan Reynolds Hal already had his chance and sucked. Either let someone else have a go at Hal or get John Stewart.

My choice would be to just get John, no problems with recasting and no continuity confusion, JL (&MOS ) would be the start of its own universe and seeing a black GL would help people realize that immediately.

John is a great character in the cartoons and they stole from Jordans character. Why can't they just do that again? They did the same thing with Wally on JLU. Just put some elements of Jordan into John but keep Johns backstory and job.

Plus I think Justice League needs a black member. And Id rather see classic characters than Cyborg

 

[TheWatcher]

I dont mind John being the leagues GL, just as long as Hal exists as GL as well.

 

[charl_huntress]

Why can't they both exist? Why couldn't a new movie boot a new GL? Why does Hal have to be preeminent?

 

[Changeling]

Hal doesnt have to make an appearance in JL for him to exist. But i wouldnt want the GL 2011 to exist in the JL universe. No way.

 

[charl_huntress]

Hal doesnt have to make an appearance in JL for him to exist. But i wouldnt want the GL 2011 to exist in the JL universe. No way.

Out of curiousity, why do you feel this way?

 

[Changeling]

I hate the Green Lantern movie. Ive explained why I hate it in other threads. I want the DC continuity to begin with MOS then to JL then to other solo franchises. Green Lantern needs to be forgotten.

A quasi sequel would be excellent but the 2011 movie needs to fade away and have nothing to do with JL because that would be bad for the franchise after the failure of GL.

 

[charl_huntress]

A quasi sequel would be excellent but the 2011 movie needs to fade away and have nothing to do with JL because that would be bad for the franchise after the failure of GL.

That's a good point. I agree, but if Hal is mentioned in a JL but not used, who else would you suggest as his replacement for earth's guardian?