Ha! Funny how you didn't quote my whole point in the exaggerating part. Proof you know I'm right... which means you're wrong!Thank you for admitting then.
Yes I am since I've started posting here.
Same with marvel saying that Hulk is the strongest one there is and Juggernaut being unstoppable. Hulk is not the strongest one there is as you admitted before, remember, TOAA?
Wrong. Being a villain in any literary work means you will lose to the hero now or in the end. Again, (how many times must I say this) if we abide by that concept, then this debate is pointless. Hulk would win over any villain regardless of abilities just because he/she is a villain. Thats absurd.
Wrong. I'm living proof that I don't need to have cancer to know its symptoms.
My point exactly, that that ability does not help your argument. In other words, utterly useless.
Calling me an apoc fanboy because I called you a Hulk fan boy? Your username is rodhulk, its quite obvious you're a Hulk fanboy. Hahahahaha!
Your just calling me one out of spite. How pathetic.
Thank you for your opinion but in my opinion I disagree.
A biased assertion, in my opinion.
Another biased assertion.
Again, villains will lose to heroes in any literary work and that includes comics. If we base this debate on that concept then this debate is pointless.
The said track records are based on what the writers want to happen just as you've said. Spider-Man KOing Hulk is crap. Yet it happend. No giany reptile could beat Hulk. Yet it happend. Why? Coz writers made it happen.
If Hulk could match the entire Avengers then why did he lost to Spidey? If he could hit speedsters then why could he barely hit Spidey? See how stupid comics can be? But thats what I think about Hulk and his powers. As you said it, it does not mean anything if we base it on comics. But that's just an opinion.
But in this debate we need to see which of the opinions are right and wrong. I'm here proving that my opinion that Apocalypse would win is right base on my analysis of both characters. Apocalypse could match Hulk's strength as both comics and info stated. He's more durable than Hulk and is capable of using several types of assault against the green brute. He also has celestial tech and we already know what it could do e.i War Hulk. Apocalypse also has enough info on Hulk which he could use against him. So I see no reason that Apocalypse would lose when he is given time to plan.

As for the strongest, Marvel could be referring to the general heros/villains, something you didn't deny before (though, you'll probably say you don't remember


No, if someone has cancer they don't know it until it's confirmed by, let's say, a doctor? Same with understanding individual characters, you need it confirmed by comics and since you don't have any, it makes it obvious why you don't know the Hulk and Apco that well.
See, still more excuses. It doesn't matter if it's the writer, what matters is what we read in the comics and Hulk is made to be better than Apoc. Sorry, but you lose again, fanboy!
So what if Hulk lost to Spidey. Unlike Apoc, Hulk still often wins (including against Spidey)!
Apoc has yet to be shown if he can match Hulk's limitless (possible) strength. Base strength, sure, Hulk's real angered strength, can't say. All we know is Marvel have stated Hulk as the strongest as the norm, not Apoc. And if Apoc could reach levels like you say, then why does he lose so much and Hulk doesn't? I believe I just closed this issue (in fact, did many posts ago but for the reading impaired....

Just to add, you're also too uneducated to realize that at the beginning of this debate, I actually said Apoc could win some because of the reasons you've been stating (though, not to the always high levels you state of Apoc). I just said I favor Hulk to win the majority which is my opinion just as you stated it's only your opinion on Apoc over Hulk. Unlike you , though, I actually have comics to back my stance as you've got nothing!