Hulk vs Thanos

[HULKSTER'04]

Manny has trained his mid body by letting his coach whip him in the stomach and his sides with a 2 inch thick iron rod for a couple a hundred times a day. So no exploiting that weakness, but I've seen Mayweather punch a guy on his ribs and then the fight was over. Manny always sparrs against an opponent 2x his weight on practice, anyways I hope they'll set up this fight soon, it be the best fight ever!

 

[Ace of Knaves]

It would indeed be a great fight.

 

[Genesis 1.0]

Mayweather will be the ultimate challenge for Pac-Man indeed!
Thor's magic don't work on the Hulk, high-tech weapons don't work on the Hulk(human/alien tech), energy blasts don't work on the Hulk. So on this aspect Thanos will be in trouble and the Hulk can overpower him on physical terms no matter how adamant you try to argue about his durability, so the ONLY way he'll win is to teleport himself or the Hulk out of the game. I concede yes, but what does that make Thanos? A coward, and the way I see it(based on your arguments) either he'll run away the moment the bell rings or send the Hulk in some wasteland somewhere in the universe which is no victory for him. What a coward couldn't even face the Hulk.

-At his strongest yet, Green Scar Hulk, he's still not capable of overwhelming Thanos' defenses OR his Durability.

-A physical assault is the worst route you could dream of to try and drop Thanos and that's the entirety of Hulk's offense. He's a 1 trick pony, a strong green pony, but a pony nonetheless.

-Thanos manipulates cosmic energy on a godly scale, not magic like Thor. So that's null and void seeing as Hulk's been schooled by weilders of cosmic energy before and by those less adept at it than Thanos.

-Hulk has no real defense against any attack not lauched physcically. No shield, no magic, no evasive abilities of note. Whenever someone throws energy at him he gets hit and depends on his durability and that ends 1 of 2 ways: He manages to survive and gets angry or he gets dropped like a bag of green space rocks. A blast from Thanos is going to drop him faster than he can heal until he can't get back up.

-Hulk's a raving idiot. Thanos is one of the most intelligent and tactically gifted characters in the MU. Hulk's stupidity and lack of planning has cost him nearly as many matches as has his lack of power. Hulk Smash is going to get his ass wiped for him against Thanos.

-From his base strength on up to near his upper limits, Thanos starts off stronge than Hulk and ends nearly on par. Thanos is a genuis, but if he chose to, he could pound Hulk senseless before he even has a chance to get mad. Much weaker guys like Thing and Abomination have done this before and won.

In closing, Hulk is:

Too slow, too stupid, too one dimensional, too limited, and heh, too weak to defeat Thanos without making up any special circumstances to work in his favor and even then, he loses badly.

So just, no.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

What's Thanos' base strength Gen? He's 100 ton level ain't he?

 

[Johnny Blaze]

What's Thanos' base strength Gen? He's 100 ton level ain't he?

Correct, and is able to amp it up by channeling cosmic energy.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Thanks. And yea thought so.

 

[HULKSTER'04]

When did Thanos apmed his strength using cosmic energy?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

He can do it all the time if he wants. That's what being an energy manipulator allows him to do.

Energy manipulation trumps brute strength every time. You could be the skinniest little runt ever, but if you can manipulate all types of energy, you are one hard as nails mutha ****a!

 

[HULKSTER'04]

Originally Posted by: Genesis 1.0

-At his strongest yet, Green Scar Hulk, he's still not capable of overwhelming Thanos' defenses OR his Durability.

So current Thanos cannot be defeated by the united force of Earth's Heroes, including Thor? That's how you see it right? Because Green Scar Hulk went through them like they weren't even there(only Juggernaut put up a decent fight)

-A physical assault is the worst route you could dream of to try and drop Thanos and that's the entirety of Hulk's offense. He's a 1 trick pony, a strong green pony, but a pony nonetheless.

So Thanos got a bleeding from Thor, but physical assault is useless?

-Thanos manipulates cosmic energy on a godly scale, not magic like Thor. So that's null and void seeing as Hulk's been schooled by weilders of cosmic energy before and by those less adept at it than Thanos.

So Thor's godblast is not in the "godly" scale? The same godblast that nearly killed Galactus, of which I'm sure Galactus is more than a match for Thanos. Thor's godblast won't even scratch the Hulk, but Thanos is more durable? Wow! What a logic.

-Hulk has no real defense against any attack not lauched physcically. No shield, no magic, no evasive abilities of note. Whenever someone throws energy at him he gets hit and depends on his durability and that ends 1 of 2 ways: He manages to survive and gets angry or he gets dropped like a bag of green space rocks. A blast from Thanos is going to drop him faster than he can heal until he can't get back up.

That is a true satement about the Hulk, but then again he doesn't need forcefields or enhancements to defend himself, his body is his offensive and defensive weapon. The Hulk fears no one that is why he doesn't need to make evasive actions like weaker beings would. He will get back up no matter how strong an energy Thanos throws at him and no matter how manny times he throws it at him, if anything Thanos will make him just even more angrier.

-Hulk's a raving idiot. Thanos is one of the most intelligent and tactically gifted characters in the MU. Hulk's stupidity and lack of planning has cost him nearly as many matches as has his lack of power. Hulk Smash is going to get his ass wiped for him against Thanos.

Tell that to the author of WWH who quoted "Hulk is a brilliant tactitioner". Why do you think he became the ruler of Skaar?

-From his base strength on up to near his upper limits, Thanos starts off stronge than Hulk and ends nearly on par. Thanos is a genuis, but if he chose to, he could pound Hulk senseless before he even has a chance to get mad. Much weaker guys like Thing and Abomination have done this before and won.

Uhuh...Thanos and Hulk are at the same base strength of 100 tons, but the Hulk has clearly shown that he can increase his strength in a split second just like lifting 150 billion tons. That's from base strength 100 tons to 150 billion tons in less than a second. If you can't undersatnd the simple math, please consult with your highschool math teacher.
I have yet to see Thanos amped his strength by utilizing the cosmic energy.
In case you're not up-to-date, the Thing and the Abomination cannot do anything to Hulk.

In closing, Hulk is:
Too slow, too stupid, too one dimensional, too limited, and heh, too weak to defeat Thanos without making up any special circumstances to work in his favor and even then, he loses badly.
So just, no.

in closing your conclusions are insufficient.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Thanos at his original power level was stronger than Thor and the Thing combined and has had at least two major upgrades since then. As for Thor and the godblast he doesn't need it to defeat the Hulk. When he went to retrieve Hulk from the Crossroads dimension he didn't bother with a fair fight the way he usually does, he one-shotted the Hulk with a lightning bolt. The Hulk was down and out without ever throwing a punch. The godblast would be ridiculous overkill. AFAIK Thor has never used the godblast against Thanos, for whatever reason.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Plus Juggernaut wasn't the only one to put up a good fight with Green Scar Hulk. Ghost Rider and obviously Sentry did too.

And it was actually stated that Ghost Rider could of beat Hulk, but he chose not to because he deemed Hulk innocent.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Originally Posted by: Genesis 1.0



So current Thanos cannot be defeated by the united force of Earth's Heroes, including Thor? That's how you see it right? Because Green Scar Hulk went through them like they weren't even there(only Juggernaut put up a decent fight)



So Thanos got a bleeding from Thor, but physical assault is useless?


So Thor's godblast is not in the "godly" scale? The same godblast that nearly killed Galactus, of which I'm sure Galactus is more than a match for Thanos. Thor's godblast won't even scratch the Hulk, but Thanos is more durable? Wow! What a logic.



That is a true satement about the Hulk, but then again he doesn't need forcefields or enhancements to defend himself, his body is his offensive and defensive weapon. The Hulk fears no one that is why he doesn't need to make evasive actions like weaker beings would. He will get back up no matter how strong an energy Thanos throws at him and no matter how manny times he throws it at him, if anything Thanos will make him just even more angrier.



Tell that to the author of WWH who quoted "Hulk is a brilliant tactitioner". Why do you think he became the ruler of Skaar?



Uhuh...Thanos and Hulk are at the same base strength of 100 tons, but the Hulk has clearly shown that he can increase his strength in a split second just like lifting 150 billion tons. That's from base strength 100 tons to 150 billion tons in less than a second. If you can't undersatnd the simple math, please consult with your highschool math teacher.
I have yet to see Thanos amped his strength by utilizing the cosmic energy.
In case you're not up-to-date, the Thing and the Abomination cannot do anything to Hulk.



in closing your conclusions are insufficient.

Mr. Thomas!! Mr. Thomas! Who would win in a fight with Hulk and Thanos!?

 

[Johnny Blaze]

When did Thanos apmed his strength using cosmic energy?

Thanos has shown before that he is able to increase his strength, as well as his other abilities, through manipulation of cosmic energy. Most notably was when he was matched against his more powerful double in the Infinity War. Thanos was outmatched at first, but amped himself up enough to where he was able to take him down and kill him.

Thanos at his original power level was stronger than Thor and the Thing combined and has had at least two major upgrades since then. As for Thor and the godblast he doesn't need it to defeat the Hulk. When he went to retrieve Hulk from the Crossroads dimension he didn't bother with a fair fight the way he usually does, he one-shotted the Hulk with a lightning bolt. The Hulk was down and out without ever throwing a punch. The godblast would be ridiculous overkill. AFAIK Thor has never used the godblast against Thanos, for whatever reason.

Far as I know, you're right in that Thor has never used the god blast on Thanos, or even the Hulk.
He's unleashed some massive energy attacks at them, sure. But not the god blast.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Did he use it on Rulk? If not, he ****ing should of.

If so, and it didn't kill Rulk, I might die of depression

 

[Silicon Surfer]

As I said earlier, Rulk might absorb it.

 

[HULKSTER'04]

Juggs didn't die from the godblast so why should it be an overkill for Hulk?

Who the hell is Mr. Thomas? Is he your highschool math teacher or something?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Maybe Thor sees Hulk as a good guy really, just a short tempered one. Whereas Juggs is a bonafide bad guy, so why would he show any mercy on him?

 

[HULKSTER'04]

Thor and Thing can only go so far in a marathon of strength against the Hulk, Hulk is still far more stronger than both. How can you see Hulk and Thanos be in the same strength level? It's ridiculous that 1 lightning bolt can take out the Hulk.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

It's ridiculous that you still think all fights are determined by brute strength.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Juggs didn't die from the godblast so why should it be an overkill for Hulk?

There is no comparison between the durability of Juggernaut and Hulk. Juggs is totally indestructible.

 

[Genesis 1.0]

Originally Posted by: Genesis 1.0



So current Thanos cannot be defeated by the united force of Earth's Heroes, including Thor? That's how you see it right? Because Green Scar Hulk went through them like they weren't even there(only Juggernaut put up a decent fight)

1.) Not all of Earth's heroes went to fight Hulk, a select number of the more mainstream stars and even in that case, not all of those. So please don't lie to yourself and assume he dropped the united forces of Earth because that's as stupid as it sounds.

2.) Put Thanos up against that same gauntlet and you'd get the same results and then some with a focused Mad Titan. He cares no more for innocents or the destruction of Earth than Hulk.

3.) Hulk had trouble with Juggernaut, was humbled by Sentry, and could have been murdered by Ghost Rider and was instead spared in pity.

4.) Thanos would annihilate Ghost Rider.

So Thanos got a bleeding from Thor, but physical assault is useless?

Yes it is, of all the forms of attack that's the least effective. Fact of the matter is you chose the exception instead of the rule using the marquee god of the MU. The same Thor that's beaten Hulk down physically, with Mjoinir, and with an ordinary f'n lightning bolt.

So Thor's godblast is not in the "godly" scale? The same godblast that nearly killed Galactus, of which I'm sure Galactus is more than a match for Thanos. Thor's godblast won't even scratch the Hulk, but Thanos is more durable? Wow! What a logic.

What? When did I say a god using his best attack wasn't godly? I said Thanos' powers were in no way magical.

It won't scratch Hulk huh? The same Hulk that got dropped by Thor's mundane lightning bolt is going to endure his best attack? Nevermind the fact that he's NEVER been hit with it and so you're pulling that out of your ass.

And yes, Thanos, who's also never been targeted by it, would fare better thanks to the wonders of logic. Thanos, unlike Hulk, can erect nearly impenetrable shields and defenses using his energy manipulation that would shed most of the effect most likely if it won't cancel it out as he'd wish. All Hulk has is his skin.

Cosmic Defense > Skin

That is a true satement about the Hulk, but then again he doesn't need forcefields or enhancements to defend himself, his body is his offensive and defensive weapon. The Hulk fears no one that is why he doesn't need to make evasive actions like weaker beings would. He will get back up no matter how strong an energy Thanos throws at him and no matter how manny times he throws it at him, if anything Thanos will make him just even more angrier.

Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together can tell you that simply charging into a fight without a care makes you an idiot, not invincible. It's nothing to admire unless you aspire to be an idiot. Discretion is the better part of valor and having more than a one track offense is far more useful than mindless rage.

You don't have to be afraid to catch an asswhipping.

As to Thor getting up whatever's thrown at him, if Doc F'N Ock can drop you, then you've got no place claiming that you can't be beat when there's a laundry list of guys who have.

Would you like the list, again?

Tell that to the author of WWH who quoted "Hulk is a brilliant tactitioner". Why do you think he became the ruler of Skaar?

Yeah.......

From a guy whose motto has been 'Hulk Smash' for decades. For a guy that's fallen into rudimentary traps that Wolverine could see through. A guy that's been tricked into walking off a f'n cliff.

Yup when I think brilliant, I think Hulk.

Uhuh...Thanos and Hulk are at the same base strength of 100 tons, but the Hulk has clearly shown that he can increase his strength in a split second just like lifting 150 billion tons. That's from base strength 100 tons to 150 billion tons in less than a second. If you can't undersatnd the simple math, please consult with your highschool math teacher.

HA! That one lone panel where he's supported the back end of a mountain? 1 event where he's done that in what 40 years? Where was this strength increase when he was getting murdered by Abomination? When he was getting spanked by Juggernaut? When he got strangled by a snake?

No, not the Midgard serpent. A PBS class python.

I have yet to see Thanos amped his strength by utilizing the cosmic energy.

He killed his alternate self by amping up his own strength. Thanos can augement any aspect of himself using his energy manipulation, a constant ace in the face of any attack.

In case you're not up-to-date, the Thing and the Abomination cannot do anything to Hulk.

Oh I get it, the cut-off date is World War Hulk? Any of Hulk's embarassing losses in the past don't exist because you can't handle it.

Grow up.

in closing your conclusions are insufficient.

No, your grasp of very basic concepts, your inability to come to grips with your character's flaws and weakness, your incessant whining because people like myself drive Mack trucks through the holes in your argument.

 

[HULKSTER'04]

How is it when we're debating about a battle between Hulk and Thanos at their best you always go back to the worst part of Hulk's story and only bring up the best parts of Thanos? You're the one who needs to grow up!
Hulk vs Thanos at their strongest ever no IG for Thanos since it was not his to begin with.

Hulk has been defeated and died in the past, yes, also Thanos died too before! You're going in circles and keep pointing back to where Hulk was defeated by a candy maid or something, but you purposefully ignore when he lifted a mountain or beat the crap out of somebody, while you praise Thanos like a crazed christian.

People, people, whenever Hulk beats Juggs you always say it's not a real defeat because Juggy is invulnerable or whatever his press release says so....but when Juggy beats Hulk, it's valid. It's always battlefield removal for Juggy every single time they cross fists(Juggs is lucky) Hulk just sees him as an annoyance. If Hulk percieves him as a real threat he would have been killed already(remember War Hulk?) that sword of his would have been more than sufficient to decapetate Juggs. How is it that their durability is not comparable? You cannot break Onslaught's armor if your fist is weaker than the armor itself. You cannot lift/support a 150 billion tons mountatain if your body cannot take the strains of 150 billion tons or more. Hulk would have died with just 1 punch from Juggs if his fist was more durable than Hulk's body is. You cannot withstand a nuclear blast if your body cannot handle a nuclear explosion. How is it that their durability not comparable?

I never said that all victories can be achieved soley through physical strength alone. However since we're debating about Hulk vs Thanos, I would say so, because that is all what the Hulk has. Seeing as the Hulk can potentially overpower Thanos, I would have to say yes Hulk can beat him by shear physical strength alone.

Thanos manipulates cosmic energy on a godly scale, not like Thor's magic-your words exactly. You are trying to elevate Thano's energy manipulation beyond Thor's abilities as a god. So you're saying that Thanos is way above Thor, hence I brought up the subject that based on your opinion Thanos can handle the godblast.

Are you saying Thanos>>>Thor>>>>Galactus?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I never said that all victories can be achieved soley through physical strength alone. However since we're debating about Hulk vs Thanos, I would say so, because that is all what the Hulk has. Seeing as the Hulk can potentially overpower Thanos, I would have to say yes Hulk can beat him by shear physical strength alone.

And there is the game breaker, you just admitted yourself. THAT is why Hulk would lose. Because physical strength is all he has got.

You have just completely outplayed yourself, you have just admitted your illogical fanboyism.

 

[Genesis 1.0]

Yes, but this isn't the first time he's admitted it, just the most recent.

It's pretty obvious that you can't contend with logic, thus the reason you avoided most of my post. I'm done trying to drill sense into a mind that refutes logic but in closing on your last faulty comparison; You said Hulk isn't affected by magic like that in Thor's godblast, I then pointed out that Thanos' energy manipulation was in no way magical.

The point anyone else would have drawn from that is Thanos' attacks would in no way be hindered by Hulk's supposed immunity. But you? Some cracked out theory that results in Thanos > Galactus.

W. T. F.

 

[HULKSTER'04]

I said that Hulk has physical attacks, but I say he will not lose to the likes of Thanos and puny debaters like you.

Your definition of logic is onesided and the so called proof you present as evidence are faulty and outdated moreover you refuse to put the fight where it should be. Always deviating to reasons that will be beneficial to your own fanboyism.

I've always faced you on every point you try to make(which are basically irrelevant). You're the one who deviates.