The Avengers Hulk Vs Thor - The Movie Edition

[wobbly]

For initial durability, ie, what their bodies can take before being damaged, I'd say they are more or less even.

However, the Hulk has a super fast healing system so any damage he gets heals very quickly. Thor heals faster than mere mortals, but it's nowhere near as fast as the Hulk.

Regarding strength. Thor is a little stronger than a relatively calm, or recently changed Hulk. However, the Hulk soon passes him as he gets angrier (so if Thor fights hand to hand he has to put the Hulk down pretty quick or he will struggle). As already noted, Thor can get tired as well, but the Hulk's stamina is endless.

Thor can also get a strength boost as well mind you (though he has never used it against the Hulk) with his 'belt of strength' that doubles his normal levels. That boost would give him so small edge in slug-fest as you'd think that's a lot of anger for the Hulk to raise to match or pass a doubled up Thor.

Regarding fighting skills: Thor takes that one, but the Hulk is not just a mindless slugger either. His inherent 'cunning' when fighting has been noted a number of times in the books (basically, he is a natural fighter).

Anyway, the upshot is that the longer the fight goes on the worse it will get for Thor. He can take the Hulk down if he does it quick enough, but that window closes pretty quickly.

That is based on the fight being a slug fest.

Thor's other abilities open up other tactics for him (flight to avoid getting hit, lightning attacks, blasts from the hammer etc). However, Thor being a warrior at heart seems to prefer taking on the Hulk in a brawl. Assume it's a matter of pride for him.

 

[Oruku Saki]

Wasn't there some old comic that had Thor and Hulk battle for like 3 days or am I just imagining that?

 

[Oruku Saki]

I, personally don't think Lightning would take down en enraged Hulk; has this ever been shown in the comics tho?

 

[Gamma Burst]

Wasn't there some old comic that had Thor and Hulk battle for like 3 days or am I just imagining that?

Thre days? Nope. More like a couple of hours, in Defenders#10.

 

[Oruku Saki]

well, three days would be awesome anyway....must be why i made it up

 

[BigThor]

For those saying Thor would get tired, you must remember he once fought an entire army of Frost Giants for 9 months without tiring.

I do agree that the longer the fast lasts the harder it becomes to put Hulk down, but Thor letting the fight drag on and not using most of his powers because of "warrior's pride" reeks of jobbery.

 

[Cth]

And Thor was shown being taken out with a taser

He wasn't fully depowered but that's what some audience members may remember.

 

[BigThor]

And Thor was shown being taken out with a taser

He wasn't fully depowered but that's what some audience members may remember.

Nah, it was pretty clear that he had lost his powers especially since Odin said "I shall take from you, your power".

 

[Gamma Burst]

He was fully depowered, and mortal. The movie made this pretty clear.

 

[BigThor]

^^^ Crystal clear

 

[Oruku Saki]

Yeah he was basically dead in the street before Mjolnir came to him.

 

[Cth]

And again, all the average movie goer will remember is he spent most of the movie depowered without the hammer.

He seemed to have above average strength and endurance when facing a squad of trained SHIELD agents and "strong" when trying to lift the hammer.

Without any real way of showing his strength or endurance grew from regaining the hammer, that's all they'll remember. All of the feats were because of the hammer.

That's the trouble you have by them having ditched the Don Blake persona.

It's why Ang Lee tried to show the Hulk got stronger by showing him getting bigger. What works in comics doesn't translate to the screen exactly.

Again, forget being a comic fan, think in terms of the average movie goer who knows nothing about Thor, only what was shown.

 

[Quasimod0]

But the movie made it clear that his POWER was taken away from him. Not just his hammer.

 

[BigThor]

But the movie made it clear that his POWER was taken away from him. Not just his hammer.

I give up, I'm starting to think that guy is trolling.

 

[Smashlilman]

And again, all the average movie goer will remember is he spent most of the movie depowered without the hammer.

He seemed to have above average strength and endurance when facing a squad of trained SHIELD agents and "strong" when trying to lift the hammer.

Without any real way of showing his strength or endurance grew from regaining the hammer, that's all they'll remember. All of the feats were because of the hammer.

That's the trouble you have by them having ditched the Don Blake persona.

It's why Ang Lee tried to show the Hulk got stronger by showing him getting bigger. What works in comics doesn't translate to the screen exactly.

Again, forget being a comic fan, think in terms of the average movie goer who knows nothing about Thor, only what was shown.

That was just stupid. They should crated a scene where the General talks about how he seems to became stronger the more they fight him and during an action scene have one of the troops say a line like "I think i pissed him off". That would convey the information that he gets Stronger the angrier he gets.

A better way to actually show the Hulk strengths increasing as he became angrier would have been to show close ups of the Hulks face as he's taking damage and have him scream angrily. Then break the action sequences down by anger segments and have him accomplish greater feats after every event that angered him.

Ang Lee sucked at making action sequences. He had his own ideas of what he wanted the Hulk to be and it was complete difference form what the hardcore fans and the portion of the GA that's familiar with the Hulk were expecting.

 

[Gamma Burst]

But the movie made it clear that his POWER was taken away from him. Not just his hammer.

It's waste of time. He doesn't get it.

 

[Smashlilman]

And again, all the average movie goer will remember is he spent most of the movie depowered without the hammer.

He seemed to have above average strength and endurance when facing a squad of trained SHIELD agents and "strong" when trying to lift the hammer.

Without any real way of showing his strength or endurance grew from regaining the hammer, that's all they'll remember. All of the feats were because of the hammer.

That's the trouble you have by them having ditched the Don Blake persona.

It's why Ang Lee tried to show the Hulk got stronger by showing him getting bigger. What works in comics doesn't translate to the screen exactly.

Again, forget being a comic fan, think in terms of the average movie goer who knows nothing about Thor, only what was shown.

Its not because they ditched Don Blake. Its because they did a poor job a showing Thor's strength with out Mjolnir. It doesn't feel like Thor's Powers and Mjolnir powers are separate interdependent powers. It sort of has that He-man and his Sword of power feel.

I give up, I'm starting to think that guy is trolling.

It's waste of time. He doesn't get it.

But the movie made it clear that his POWER was taken away from him. Not just his hammer.

Odin said "I now take from you your power" and Thor''s Hammer flew into Odin's hand.
I see what he means. The GA that will put 2 and 2 together and assume that Thor gets his powers from his hammer.



They need to show Thor doing feats with out using Mjolnir.

 

[Gamma Burst]

Oh, I see. Indeed, it is somewhat of a concern of mine that they keep Thor too dependent of his hammer.

 

[BigThor]

Its not because they ditched Don Blake. Its because they did a poor job a showing Thor's strength with out Mjolnir. It doesn't feel like Thor's Powers and Mjolnir powers are separate interdependent powers. It sort of has that He-man and his Sword of power feel.

Odin said "I now take from you your power" and Thor''s Hammer flew into Odin's hand.
I see what he means. The GA that will put 2 and 2 together and assume that Thor gets his powers from his hammer.

They need to show Thor doing feats with out using Mjolnir.

Yeah I see what you're saying now but that's crying over spilled milk, I would like to see them showcase his super strength without Mjolnir in The Avengers and THOR II.

The fact that Thor hits a car with his hammer in set videos for The Avengers only strengthens my worries about him staying to hammer dependent.

 

[Smashlilman]

Yeah I see what you're saying now but that's crying over spilled milk, I would like to see them showcase his super strength without Mjolnir in The Avengers and THOR II.

The fact that Thor hits a car with his hammer in set videos for The Avengers only strengthens my worries about him staying to hammer dependent.

I wish Thor would do something like this in any of his movies. In this video Thor fights the Juggernaut and realize he can't Hurt him through direct force. So he shoots him in the chest with Mjolnir to reveal the source of the Juggernauts power. He tosses Mjolnir into the air and dispels the Juggernauts invulnerability. Then he proceeds to bet the living hell out of him with his bare hands. He would have flat out won but lol Donald Blake enough said. Ended in a Battle field Ejection.

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[BigThor]

I wish Thor would do something like this in any of his movies. In this video Thor fights the Juggernaut and realize he can't Hurt him through direct force. So he shoots him in the chest with Mjolnir to reveal the source of the Juggernauts power. He tosses Mjolnir into the air and dispels the Juggernauts invulnerability. Then he proceeds to bet the living hell out of him with his bare hands. He would have flat out won but lol Donald Blake enough said. Ended in a Battle field Ejection.

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This was awesome but there's no need for him to use it since he's not fighting Juggernaut in this film.

 

[The Morningstar]

Yea i hope movie Thor starts using his more exotic powers. He's got more in his arsenal than just smashing things with his hammer and using weather.

 

[Gamma Burst]

Wise words, Morningstar.

 

[BigThor]

Yea i hope movie Thor starts using his more exotic powers. He's got more in his arsenal than just smashing things with his hammer and using weather.

I agree, what's the point of giving all those cool powers if they're gonna take most of them away when he makes it to the big screen?

 

[Smashlilman]

This was awesome but there's no need for him to use it since he's not fighting Juggernaut in this film.

What i was saying that There are situation in which Thor could use Mjolnir that would allow him to fight bare handed. That way he could display his own strength out side of using Mjolnir as an offensive weapon.