The Avengers Hulk Vs Thor - The Movie Edition

Look, we have to judge this fight as one ( a judge) would judge a UFC fight, Boxing match, or the like.

It is based on the number of hits that actually did damage to their opponent. The only hit that remotely did any kind of damage to the Hulk was the Mjolnir uppercut. Thors awesome knee to Hulks face, and the first punch Thor threw were the equalivant of saying you hurt your opponent merely jabbing him.:huh: That's all the knee and the first punch was to Hulk, a jab. Now Hulk on the other hand knocked Thor on his ass not only once, but 4 times. 1) The first punch sending him through the crates, 2) the crash through the floor, 3) the slam after that, and 4) then yet again throwing him through more boxes. Don't know about you, but those count as take downs - i understand that the crash through the floor is debatable, but that still gives Hulk a lead on the 'score cards' if you will.

I'd also like to point out that perhaps there was indeed more to the fight off screen, as when it was reported to Hill that Hulk and Thor were on level..whatever...that was the level they had landed on when they crashed though the floors. I'm guessing the dialogue between Hill, Fury and the pilot was about 7 seconds or so, yet when they show us Hulk and Thor again, Hulk has Thor in his hand which is supposed to pick up right after the crash through the floor, but i seriously doubt Hulk just stood there with Thor in his hands for that long, so there's either a continuity issue with that part, or there's more to the fight happening off screen.

I don't think you wanna judge this like a UFC or boxing match because it would go to Thor who was effectively the "Mayweather" fighter.

Thor's first punch caused Hulk to SPIN around and his knee caused Hulk to stumble back considerably, I don't think jabs do that. Thor put Hulk on his ass 3 times btw, which is the first tackle, the uppercut, and Thor's hammer throw.

Not to mention Thor blocked a punch and dodging 3 of Hulk's attacks, we all know fighters with good defense and offense always win on the score cards (unless there's a KO).

Hulk knocking Thor on his ass and throwing him around isn't that impressive considering he's 3 times Thor's size. Unlike the comics MCU Thor and Hulk are nowhere near the same size, Hulk can wrap his entire hand around Thor's torso.
 
I don't think you wanna judge this like a UFC or boxing match because it would go to Thor who was effectively the "Mayweather" fighter.

Thor's first punch caused Hulk to SPIN around and his knee caused Hulk to stumble back considerably, I don't think jabs do that. Thor put Hulk on his ass 3 times btw, which is the first tackle, the uppercut, and Thor's hammer throw.

Not to mention Thor blocked a punch and dodging 3 of Hulk's attacks, we all know fighters with good defense and offense always win on the score cards (unless there's a KO).

Hulk knocking Thor on his ass and throwing him around isn't that impressive considering he's 3 times Thor's size. Unlike the comics MCU Thor and Hulk are nowhere near the same size, Hulk can wrap his entire hand around Thor's torso.
Ok, if we're going to use MMA scoring, let's figure out who had better octagon control. I mean, the Hulk was coming forward all fight, but he did jump out after that jet... that'll cost you on the scorecards.

Plus, Thor landed that first takedown. We all know MMA judges favour that first takedown way too much. Got to go 10-9 Thor for that first round. Then the DQ win for Thor since Hulk left the fighting surface. The crowd won't be happy with that one.
 
Ok, if we're going to use MMA scoring, let's figure out who had better octagon control. I mean, the Hulk was coming forward all fight, but he did jump out after that jet... that'll cost you on the scorecards.

Plus, Thor landed that first takedown. We all know MMA judges favour that first takedown way too much. Got to go 10-9 Thor for that first round. Then the DQ win for Thor since Hulk left the fighting surface. The crowd won't be happy with that one.

True story SB :up:

Where you been man, it's been awhile since I've seen you around these parts.


Edit: Although if they were fighting in the MMA Thor and Hulk wouldn't even fight due the huge size difference.
 
True story SB :up:

Where you been man, it's been awhile since I've seen you around these parts.


Edit: Although if they were fighting in the MMA Thor and Hulk wouldn't even fight due the huge size difference.
I'm always around. I always read the forums, but I don't always post. In a forum this size, there's usually someone who's already conveyed my thoughts on a subject, so I tend to only post when I feel I have something to add. Like levity, in this case.

Also, Thor's a big guy, so he might push 265lbs, with his Asgardian density and all. Then him and Hulk can fight in a nice and fair superheavyweight bout. No ceiling there. Put it on PPV with the Cap/Iron Man fight as a co-main event. Good unresolved grudge matches always sell big.

...These are the things I think about at 5 in the morning.
 
I'm always around. I always read the forums, but I don't always post. In a forum this size, there's usually someone who's already conveyed my thoughts on a subject, so I tend to only post when I feel I have something to add. Like levity, in this case.

Also, Thor's a big guy, so he might push 265lbs, with his Asgardian density and all. Then him and Hulk can fight in a nice and fair superheavyweight bout. No ceiling there. Put it on PPV with the Cap/Iron Man fight as a co-main event. Good unresolved grudge matches always sell big.

...These are the things I think about at 5 in the morning.

There's a super heavyweight division?

I did not know that...
 
There's a super heavyweight division?

I did not know that...
It's the only weight class sanctioned under the unified rules of MMA that the UFC doesn't use, now that they've brought in flyweight. In actuality, the UFC has only had one superheavyweight fight in its entire history. It was between Josh Barnett and Gan McGee at UFC 28. But, they never held one again, since the talent pool is very shallow. You can imagine that, if there's no weight limit, a lot of the fighters tend to let themselves go a bit at that class...

But a lot of smaller shows use it, since the big guys do tend to clumsily smash into each other until they fall down, which a lot of fans seem to like.
 
Thor would definitely win on points. He landed a punch, a Mjolnir uppercut, a knee whereas Hulk landed a punch and tossed Thor around some and i'm not really sure how you would score that.

One things i think they sold pretty well was the idea of the Hulk just going and going like the Terminator. He just keeps shrugging things off. Both times when they went through the wall and the ceiling Hulk is up and moving while Thor seemed to need a second or two to recover. Though its never really been out and out referenced since Hulk 2003 it matches well with the Hulks madder/stronger power and the way that while others are being worn down as the fight goes on, Hulk often gets tougher. Its partially why of their many comic fights this one reminds me the most of the Stan Lee ones JIM 112 and Mighty Thor 385. Both feature a somewhat more ruthless, even evil, Hulk also.
 
I have a couple of Marvel guidebooks that describe the battles between Thor and the Hulk, and they say the same thing; that Thor is physically weaker than the Hulk, but has far superior fighting skills as well as other powers that the Hulk does not (lightning, for example)

This is perfectly consistent with what happens in The Avengers, which I saw again today. There is no question that Hulk is physically stronger than Thor. But it didn't matter because Thor is a much better fighter. He performed several maneuvers that knocked the Hulk off his feet. The Hulk is similar to a wild animal or a child throwing a tantrum, he has no real skills in battle other than to overwhelm his opponent with his physical strength.

Saying that, if the fight goes on long enough, the Hulk will eventually get angry enough to gain the strength to overcome Thor. However, it is more likely that Thor and Hulk will reconcile before that happens, as they are both on the same side at the end of the day.
 
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I have a couple of Marvel guidebooks that describe the battles between Thor and the Hulk, and they say the same thing; that Thor is physically weaker than the Hulk, but has far superior fighting skills as well as other powers that the Hulk does not (lightning, for example)

This is perfectly consistent with what happens in The Avengers, which I saw again today. There is no question that Hulk is physically stronger than Thor. But it didn't matter because Thor is a much better fighter. He performed several maneuvers that knocked the Hulk off his feet. The Hulk is similar to a wild animal or a child throwing a tantrum, he has no real skills in battle other than to overwhelm his opponent with his physical strength.

Saying that, if the fight goes on long enough, the Hulk will eventually get angry enough to gain the strength to overcome Thor. However, it is more likely that Thor and Hulk will reconcile before that happens, as they are both on the same side at the end of the day.

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Hulk is definately stronger than Thor, which isn't suprising considering Hulk gets stronger the longer he fights.

Thor has more powers and much better fighting abilities in his arsenal though, so I'm sure that makes up for him being somewhat weaker.
 
its worth pointing out that immediately after their fight, thor runs to Loki's prison and seems in perfect condition still
 
its worth pointing out that immediately after their fight, thor runs to Loki's prison and seems in perfect condition still

Yeah for all the "but Thor was roughed up" and "he was getting worn down" comments.
 
I said he was getting roughed up because he was, there's no doubt about it. It wasn't a matter of it being my opinion, it's what was right there on screen. Hulk did more damage. Hulk put Thor in more precarious predicaments. If you're in a fight with someone, and you're gtteing your ass kicked at first, then you turn the fight around and you're slamming the other person around before the fight's broken up, i think most would assume you won the fight because it's not the start of any match that determines the winner, it's the ending. Hulk was clearly roughing Thor up at the latter end of that fight. No one can deny that.

Thor's a much better tactical fighter there's no doubt about it, but Hulk won that fight.
 
I said he was getting roughed up because he was, there's no doubt about it. It wasn't a matter of it being my opinion, it's what was right there on screen. Hulk did more damage. Hulk put Thor in more precarious predicaments. If you're in a fight with someone, and you're gtteing your ass kicked at first, then you turn the fight around and you're slamming the other person around before the fight's broken up, i think most would assume you won the fight because it's not the start of any match that determines the winner, it's the ending. Hulk was clearly roughing Thor up at the latter end of that fight. No one can deny that.

Thor's a much better tactical fighter there's no doubt about it, but Hulk won that fight.

Professionaly speaking it's the totality of the fight that determines the winner NOT the start or the end (unless there's a KO).

Lol how was Thor roughed up exactly? A bloody nose? :funny:

He also landed more blows, dodged more attacks, and blocked more hits, he even took Hulk off of his feet 3 times.
 
he even took Hulk off of his feet 3 times.

I like you BigThor, but I can't resist :woot: Hulk's back never technically touched the floor after the uppercut. (Yes, one will argue that the jet kept him up...but...) To me, a hammer throw that Hulk caught doesn't fully translate into Thor knocking Hulk on his butt. Anyone else have an opinion on this? Now, if the hammer had drilled Hulk in the face and he tipped over we might have a different conversation. He went down because the magic of the hammer wouldn't permit him to pick it up. This all can be argued, but isn't definitive either way. The tackle to save Widow? You got me on that one : )
I wonder if Whedon did this stuff on purpose to torture us?
 
Professionaly speaking it's the totality of the fight that determines the winner NOT the start or the end (unless there's a KO).

Lol how was Thor roughed up exactly? A bloody nose? :funny:

He also landed more blows, dodged more attacks, and blocked more hits, he even took Hulk off of his feet 3 times.

The only time Hulk was put down by Thor was when they initially went through the wall, they were both down at that point and both of them took a moment to get up, but if that counts as a take down then so does the two of them crashing through the floor levels - especially since Hulk initiated the maneuver.

When Thor throws the hammer at Hulk, he isn't hit, the hammer just drags him back, there was no impact. I will give you the hammer to the face strike though.

Thor was roughed up when Hulk took him out of his game, and had him so dis-orientated he had no opportunity to launch a counter attack. 1) when they crashed through the floor - Thor was still lying on his back showing no sign of getting up when Hulk grabbed him, 2) Hulk picking Thor up and slamming him and then 3) picking him up yet again, and tossing him through boxes.

Thor had no opportunity to launch any form of offensive during that sequence of the fight. I dunno about you, but if my opponent picks me and slams me a few times, back to back, and i'm either too dis-orientated, hurt, or the like, to launch any kind of counter-attack, or even defend myself..i'm being roughed up, as i am at the pure mercy of my opponents offensive.
 
The only time Hulk was put down by Thor was when they initially went through the wall, they were both down at that point and both of them took a moment to get up, but if that counts as a take down then so does the two of them crashing through the floor levels - especially since Hulk initiated the maneuver.

When Thor throws the hammer at Hulk, he isn't hit, the hammer just drags him back, there was no impact. I will give you the hammer to the face strike though.

Thor was roughed up when Hulk took him out of his game, and had him so dis-orientated he had no opportunity to launch a counter attack. 1) when they crashed through the floor - Thor was still lying on his back showing no sign of getting up when Hulk grabbed him, 2) Hulk picking Thor up and slamming him and then 3) picking him up yet again, and tossing him through boxes.

Thor had no opportunity to launch any form of offensive during that sequence of the fight. I dunno about you, but if my opponent picks me and slams me a few times, back to back, and i'm either too dis-orientated, hurt, or the like, to launch any kind of counter-attack, or even defend myself..i'm being roughed up, as i am at the pure mercy of my opponents offensive.

"Took him out the game", now you're just being funny I literally laughed out loud when I read that part. Thor wasn't all that "disorientated" he just needed a few seconds to recuperate just like Hulk did after Thor knocked him into the jet.

Thor had no opportunity to launch any offensive attacks because he was being "palmed" by someone who's large enough to hold a grown man in their hands. Hulk throwing around some 3 times smaller than him doesn't come from him being stronger (which he is) or a better fighter it just means he has a distinct size advantage.

Each of them had an equal amount of moments where they were winning so don't throw that out of the window just because it was Hulk's "turn" to have the upperhand when the jet showed up.

I like you BigThor, but I can't resist :woot: Hulk's back never technically touched the floor after the uppercut. (Yes, one will argue that the jet kept him up...but...) To me, a hammer throw that Hulk caught doesn't fully translate into Thor knocking Hulk on his butt. Anyone else have an opinion on this? Now, if the hammer had drilled Hulk in the face and he tipped over we might have a different conversation. He went down because the magic of the hammer wouldn't permit him to pick it up. This all can be argued, but isn't definitive either way. The tackle to save Widow? You got me on that one : )
I wonder if Whedon did this stuff on purpose to torture us?

I never said Hulk's backed touched the floor, I said "Thor knocked Hulk on his ass and took him off of his feet".

I think Hulk was dragged by Mjolnir was due to the force of the throw and I assume the same thing would've happened with a "face shot".
 
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It's funny that both sides are trying to award points, competitive-bout style, to a brawl. Neither of THEM were trying to amass points...

I'm a Thor fan, and it LOOKED like Hulk was getting the upper hand. It made me think "if this fight carries on in this fashion" (no extra powers like lightning) Hulk was going to win.

But noone 'won' the fight because Thor jumped away from the new threat while Hulk attacked it.
 
It's funny that both sides are trying to award points, competitive-bout style, to a brawl. Neither of THEM were trying to amass points...

I'm a Thor fan, and it LOOKED like Hulk was getting the upper hand. It made me think "if this fight carries on in this fashion" (no extra powers like lightning) Hulk was going to win.

But noone 'won' the fight because Thor jumped away from the new threat while Hulk attacked it.

Well actually Thor's objective was to keep Hulk from killing people and he succeeded, Hulk was really the only one who was "going for the kill".

Hulk definately had the upperhand when the jet came but who knows what either was going to pull out if the battle continued.
 
Well actually Thor's objective was to keep Hulk from killing people and he succeeded, Hulk was really the only one who was "going for the kill".

Hulk definately had the upperhand when the jet came but who knows what either was going to pull out if the battle continued.

I guess this is how I looked at the whole thing too....
 
Why is this being compared to an MMA fight? There aren't any referees, there certainly aren't any rules, and the fight isn't determined by who scores more points. It should be compared to a bar fight where the entire fight means absolUTELY..... zilch. It's the ending that counts. If one guy is getting his @$$ beat the entire fight, but gets a beer bottle and knocks the other guy out with it, guess who won the fight? It's certainly not the one who's now dribbling into the floor.

I don't see why it's so hard for Thor fans to accept that Hulk had the upperhand at the end of the fight, just as Thor had the upperhand at the beginning of the fight. Who knows maybe Thor could have turned the fight, found himself a beer bottle so to speak.

Then the excuses, "Hulk is bigger so it's easy for him to grab and throw someone of Thors size and stature around." (Just one example I recently saw) Well then, "Thor has better fighting skills, so it's easy for him to dodge the Hulks attacks and counterattack." You'd think Hulks size plays as an adavantage to him just as Thors fighting skills are to him.

I'm getting a little frustrated looking at this thread. Yes, Thor didn't use all his powers, but this isn't a what-if, what happened on screen was that Hulk had the upperhand towards the end when the fight got intterupted. No, there wasn't a clear winner, which is probably how it should be, but jeez, this whole adding ones own rules to make our favorite character look better is just annoying, and this goes for the Hulk too, it's just I'm seeing it more with Thor in this thread. Thank you for your time.
 
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"Took him out the game", now you're just being funny I literally laughed out loud when I read that part. Thor wasn't all that "disorientated" he just needed a few seconds to recuperate just like Hulk did after Thor knocked him into the jet.

Thor had no opportunity to launch any offensive attacks because he was being "palmed" by someone who's large enough to hold a grown man in their hands. Hulk throwing around some 3 times smaller than him doesn't come from him being stronger (which he is) or a better fighter it just means he has a distinct size advantage.

Each of them had an equal amount of moments where they were winning so don't throw that out of the window just because it was Hulk's "turn" to have the upperhand when the jet showed up.

Your points are moot. Huk bigger, Thor needing a few seconds, Thor just trying to distract Hulk, etc. We're trying to determine who won the fight. Hulk won the fight. Thor was getting roughed up. It was right there on screen.

Why is this being compared to an MMA fight? There aren't any referees, there certainly aren't any rules, and the fight isn't determined by who scores more points. It should be compared to a bar fight where the entire fight means absolUTELY..... zilch. It's the ending that counts. If one guy is getting his @$$ beat the entire fight, but gets a beer bottle and knocks the other guy out with it, guess who won the fight? It's certainly not the one who's now dribbling into the floor.

I don't see why it's so hard for Thor fans to accept that Hulk had the upperhand at the end of the fight, just as Thor had the upperhand at the beginning of the fight. Who knows maybe Thor could have turned the fight, found himself a beer bottle so to speak.

Then the excuses, "Hulk is bigger so it's easy for him to grab and throw someone of Thors size and stature around." (Just one example I recently saw) Well then, "Thor has better fighting skills, so it's easy for him to dodge the Hulks attacks and counterattack." You'd think Hulks size plays as an adavantage to him just as Thors fighting skills are to him.

I'm getting a little frustrated looking at this thread. Yes, Thor didn't use all his powers, but this isn't a what-if, what happened on screen was that Hulk had the upperhand towards the end when the fight got intterupted. No, there wasn't a clear winner, which is probably how it should be, but jeez, this whole adding ones own rules to make our favorite character look better is just annoying, and this goes for the Hulk too, it's just I'm seeing it more with Thor in this thread. Thank you for your time.

Thank You. I'm not knocking Thor. I like Thor. I'm simply stating what was on screen. Hulk won.
 
O.k, i'm man enough to admit when i'm wrong. The fight does indeed seem to fit together despite the cut aways..but, for those of you saying that Thor was not getting roughed up towards the end of the fight...Thor got rammed through god knows how many levels of floor, slammed on the ground, then pelted through some boxes, all after having hit Hulk with an upper cut, which in his solo film, decimated frost giants like nobodys business.....i think it's safe to assume the pilot saved Thor from a beat down.

No. The point was was Thor did not hit Hulk the way he did against the frost giants. He was spinning his hammer fast with each swing. He did not do that against Hulk. All he did was hit hulk with his hammer. In "Thor" he was spinning the hammer, so not only was he hitting the frost giants hard, but the momentum from the spinning hammer was clobbering them. He hit them harder. He was hitting the frost giants MUCH harder.

Ans Secondly, I don't see how you see this. You can use the same argument then and say Hulk was getting wounded and roughed up, and beat down at the beginning of the fight. But was he? No. Was THor? No. Thor jumped on Hulk's back, he jumped them up like 3 levels. Hulk got up first, picked up thor, threw him to the ground once, then threw him through some boxes. Thor did not looked roughed up. Yeah, his hair was messy, point? He's moving, a lot, thats gunna happen, same with sweating. He was able to get up, and dive away, and look for Loki. This entire fight played into Hulk's advantages. Mostly. And there was no point where it seemed like Thor was going to get beat down. Hulks most devastating blow was that punch.
 
Based on the movie versions, the fight was a draw, especially considering it was interrupted. I did notice that The Avengers seemed to down play Thor's power display. While I loved the Ironman fight, I felt Thor let Tony get the upperhand a little too much. I honestly think we never got to see the full extent of Thor's powers until the final battle when he kills 2 Leviathans with a SICK lightning storm sequence and the 3rd with a charged up hit from Mjolnir (of course, with Hulk's initial attack by stabbing the Leviathan in the back) But still Thor for the most part was holding back for the majority of the film. Even when Thor summoned Mjolnir in the Hulk fight, he was more trying to subdue Hulk than trying to fight him toe to toe.

I honestly think Thor, at least the movie version, is definitely more than a match from Hulk. I mean that whole Frost Giants fight at the beginning of Thor shows just how powerful Thor can get when "let's loose" and goes all out.:word:

This. I have been saying, if Thor fought Hulk like he did against the frost giants, I think it may have been a bit more one sided.
 
Heres my own summary of the Hulk Thor fight which I feel has a few more details then jaqua's without too much personal interpretation:

Hulk is chasing Black Widow through the helicarrier. He swings an arm and knocks her aside into a wall. He runs into another wall himself and stops.

He walks over to her steadily. He pulls one arm back.

Thor tackles him and they crash through the wall. They are in an aircraft hanger. They roll over for a bit, Hulk begins to get up first, then Thor a moment later.

They circle one another for a bit. Hulk swings at Thor with a punch/grab. Thor dodges. Hulk immediately swings again with a backhand. Thor doesn't really have to dodge and quickly counterpunches Hulk in the face which spins him around. Hulk 360s to turn it into another backhand which Thor ducks.

While Thor is ducked Hulk swings an overhead blow. Thor blocks it with one arm and then brings his other arm up to push back as the Hulk pushes down on him. They push back and forth for a bit.

Thor: "Hulk get a hold of yourself - we are not your enemy."

Thor begins to push upwards and seems to quickly stand up. Hulk then punches him away with his left arm. Thor flies through some crates and offscreen.

[CUT AWAY to another scene]

We see Thor tumbling across the floor with some crates and hear Hulks echoing roar.

Thor is on his knees with both hands on the ground in front of him. He has blood on his nose. Wipes it with his hand and looks at it. Smiles quickly to himself. Holds arm out for Mjolnir.

Mjolnir seems to be taking its time. Suddenly it arrives and Thor spins just as Hulk runs up behind him and launches a jumping punch. The spinning Mjolnir uppercut catches him right on the chin and Hulk is rocked backwards in slow-mo.

Hulk flies back and lands on a plane which is also slides backwards across the helicarrier floor. Hulk stands up but does appear a bit stunned for a second. But then he looks up at Thor, shaking his head furiously.

Hulk tears off a wing from the jet and throws it at Thor who is running towards him. Thor ducks, limbo style, takes a few more steps and then launches Mjolnir at Hulk.

Hulk reaches up and actually catches it but he is pulled backwards quite a distance to the ground. He tries to pick it up. Even the handle wont move. His feet sink into the floor instead.

Meanwhile Thor closes the distance and just as Hulk turns to face him he launches a flying knee which connects squarely with the side of Hulks face. While Hulk staggers backwards he grabs Mjolnir and jumps on Hulks back wraps both arms around his neck and starts using Mjolnir to choke him. Hulk grabs at the hammer, swings his arms and body and then jumps through the ceiling.

[CUT AWAY]

Hulk and Thor crash through the floor, hit the ceiling and fall back down to the floor again.

We see Thor on his back look around himself when suddenly Hulks hand grabs him from the neck down.

[CUT AWAY]

Shield Agent is telling Maria Hill that Hulk and Thor are on Level 4 and that they broke through Levels 2 and 3 or something. Hill says the Hulk will destroy the helicarrier.

Fury tells her to distract him. Hill a jet to approach but to keep its distance. We see the pilot manoeuvring round to the correct place where the Hulk and Thor are. This whole sequence takes a little while, implying there may be a decent sized gap between where they burst through the floor and when we cut back to them.

Hulk has Thor in his hands, and without releasing him, slams him into the ground twice. He then throws him into the wall/ceiling and Thor falls to the ground. Hulk begins to walk over to him and the pilot opens fire.

Bullets hit Hulk in the back. Hulk stops, pauses and turns. Puts an arm up to shield himself. Thor is now crouched on his knees and he dives across the room out of the path of the aircrafts gunfire. Hulk roars at jet before running to the edge of the helicarrier and leaping at it.

Yup. The only error is when you said Hulk slams him to the ground twice. He slams him once, then throws him. Not to mention Hulk is bigger than Thor. In regards to what the other guy said, I dont think Hulk throwing Thor to the ground, then into boxes is enough to really, rough him up. Thats two mild blows (by Hulks standard) that he has probably felt before in his previous battles. Hulk just happened to have thor cornered.
 
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Hulk is definately stronger than Thor, which isn't suprising considering Hulk gets stronger the longer he fights.

Thor has more powers and much better fighting abilities in his arsenal though, so I'm sure that makes up for him being somewhat weaker.

Have they made that clear in the MCU? I know it was in The Incredible Hulk. But it seemed like in The Avengers, it wasn't the case. There wasn't really any sign of Hulk getting "angrier" and then getting stronger.
 

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