I call Shenanigans

[Not Jake]

Only reason why I went down on Lackey was due to that pic which he posted

Must've been one hot pic! Hahahahahaha


As for that Lackey quote, Lackey is kidding. Unless he's a Darwinist. It's a free country, Morg, and Darwinism is an acceptable belief.

 

[Morg]

That type of post Lackey did wasn't a laughable matter Not Jake.

 

[Not Jake]

Yeah, it was. Morg, if comedy wasn't allowed to offend even a small minority of people, Full House would have been the funniest show of all goddamn time. Intentionally.

 

[DOG LIPS]

Morg, stop playing with Jake, you'll catch the stupid.

 

[Morg]

Lackey isn't a comedian and there is tastful jokes and not so tasteful jokes and that one wasn't so tastful

 

[Not Jake]

Morg, stop playing with Jake, you'll catch the stupid.

Morg, I'd like to report a troll.

 

[Morg]

Morg, stop playing with Jake, you'll catch the stupid.

Sorry DL, thought I'll once add my two cents in this mess to try to settle things

 

[Morg]

Morg, I'd like to report a troll.

Actually it's a dog

 

[Not Jake]

Lackey isn't a comedian and there is tastful jokes and not so tasteful jokes and that one wasn't so tastful

what are you talking about, it was full of tast

 

[Master Chief]

Just think of Lackey as Sarah Silverman, lol.

 

[kypade]

well, that's just what it is doing.

I'm sorry.

Apparently he doesn't think I have tried hard enough, and no one loves me. I'm the most **** upon person here at Hype because everything a poster does wrong is my fault, and everything an admin/mod does is my fault. I am mocked to my face and behind my back viciously by the very people I try to defend half the time.

That sucks, but it's gonna happen dew. you are the top poster of this board, and as far as true 'posters' go, the most powerful. You cant expect to practically run the place and not have people get upset. It doesnt mean anyone really dislikes you, it just means youre the face of the hype.

He is doing it for his own benefit, not anyone else's.

Maybe not for yours or morg's, but I would certainly disagree that its entirely selfish. Like i said, its to prove a point. If he were only trying to prove it to himself it wouldntve been posted.

Morg is not obligated to explain his behavior to you as long as he can operate within Hype rules. The fact that I choose to try and settle things is not required. I do so because I want peace.

No, you're wrong. You are absolutely obligated to explain your behavior to me, if your behavior is completely ****. If a cop beats a man for jay walking, he's damn well gonna explain himself. If you delete a thread for no reason, you damn well better acknowledge that you suck at modding when you're called out on it.

Look at what Lackey did in that thread. That would piss anyone off.

Again, I disagree. Any level headed person would not be pissed off, because they would realize that they made a dumb move. Morg shouldve just said "sorry lackey, this is an emergancy, i'll take it down when i get an answer." instead, he deleted posts, probated people for no reason, and then pretended none of it ever happened. sorry, that's wrong. If you mean the morgpod picture, again, hardly worth being upset over. He wasnt fotochoped into porn, his friends weren't called ****es...the outline of his picture was paited over in paint, there was absolutely NO connection to morg the poster outside of any morg brought to the table. Just because he knew it was his picture, and he knew it refered to him being deaf, he got emotional and turned on Lackey. "But lackey was warned several times and kept posting the picture." You cant warn someone for doing nothing wrong. It's ridiculous.

Maybe, but this is Mirko's site and he has the right to run it as he sees fit.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

I totally agree

I love yew k mosi.

 

[Drakon]

Lackey, bro. You got what you deserved, I think.

Earlier yesterday, Jake sent me a PM asking me to sticky his "SHH! Awards". I haven't been here much in the last two weeks because I've been setting up my own site, but last I knew Erz was supposed to be hosting. Since I didn't have time to go back and read all the posts to see what's what, I refered him to Dew, since she would know more than I did. Not that I have anything against Jake, but if Erz was in fact doing this, it woulda been assholish of me to sticky Jake's thread. You woulda called me everything from ******* to pig****er, had that been the case. [Jake already PMed me telling me he hates me--OH NOES!]

This is a good example of double standards, for so many reasons, it's goddamned ******ed. Not saying that the SHH awards are trivial, but sticking every thread for no real reason other than to have it on top is never good, especially since Mirko prefers there to be few stickies. Me, personally? I try to sticky threads that will bring us back to being a community--not a loose collective of *******s on the internet. Like The Lizard said in a post a couple of months ago, this site is really lacking a sense of history. It started with vb3 upgrade, and all went downhill from there. My primary interest is nullify that. That's why I stickied Venom71's thread. That's why C.Lee's baby deserved a sticky.

Something else, too. Lackey, you went in his thread with the entire motive of saying that it was a pointless sticky. I know, I saw the thread, and I agree that it's not a thread I would have stickied. Not only was it done in an incredibly rude manner, but it was repeated by a lot of people. Now, had Morg fought back and flamed you guys back, he'd be an ******* because "since he's a mod, he represents the site". "Mods shouldn't insult posters" [I know this for a fact, because even when mentioned in a teasing manner, I've seen reports in my email box about a mod fighting back in a thread]. Since he couldn't fight back and defend himself the way [I belive] he should have [by flaming your asses back], he had to disicpline. Would I have made it as long? No. Honestly, I woulda tossed you a single, very stearn warning, and if it was continued, I woulda honestly given you the probation, too.

I know I keep saying it, but if you don't like it, leave. Go over to Le Soft Parade. Go to Gamer Rejects. But know this. Anything you say on the internet is public. It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility for us to find it, especially when the site is full of Anti-SHHers. Anything you say over on the other site is public knowledge. Yes, we can't punish you for anything you say or do over there, but it does burn bridges. There's no plausible deniability when you talk **** on one site, and come here and act innocent. [hint-you can't honestly say "nobody would know it's Morg, when the filename was "MorgIpod.jpeg"]

Considering there's nothing sacred with you guys [not even a physicial disability], and you have been nothing but busting his nuts all over Tuk and Jess' site, and to a lesser extent on GR, there's plenty reason why he was on the defensive. Would I have acted the same way? Probably not. But he was more justified than a lot of you people who are crying foul are willing to admit.

Don't bother debating me on what I've said above. I very much doubt I'm going to reply. I've been quiet hoping a lot of you people would just shut up and things would be quiet again--I'm afraid I give you too much credit.

 

[Drakon]

Damnit, wrong thread.

 

[kypade]

Drak, I think what you're saying is great, but you're saying it with the fundemental flaw of thinking Morg is on the same level as you or other mods. He isn't. It's not about him being stricter than you or dew, its about him being a bad mod. I think most people see that, objectively.

Also, I wish you wouldn't say that crap about "everything's public on the internet." It may be true, but it shouldn't matter. If something is said at another site and it affects you here, that's a serious problem. Lackey can play "innocent" all he wants, because at superherohype, he is innocent.

Anyway, it doesnt really matter to me, but Lackey has stuck through this place for five odd years and continues to post here, so obviously to him its not a matter of "dont like it, leave." I just don't think it should be written of so simply as "oh, you're talking **** elsewhere," or "well, morg's just stricter than the rest." Putting morg into moddom was a mistake, and now that most people agree of it, it's being ignored. Such is hype, I guess.

 

[Fran]

Apparently he doesn't think I have tried hard enough, and no one loves me. I'm the most **** upon person here at Hype because everything a poster does wrong is my fault, and everything an admin/mod does is my fault. I am mocked to my face and behind my back viciously by the very people I try to defend half the time.

I don't ever remember me accusing you (flat-out) of anything. If anything, I've always come to ask a question or two.

Morg has given me probation (I guess I deserved it who edits their posts at 3AM?). He has docked me 50 posts TWICE in one day (for the "In before the close" sentence, when other people have done it and NOT gotten penalized). He has NEVER fully answered a question I've asked him regarding my punishments/etc.

I've had to come to you, DOG and Drak for any questions. I'm grateful you three helped me out (and still do).

 

[DOG LIPS]

So the bottom line is the red-names with names that start with a "D" are the best.









Oh wait, Danger Mouse. Crap, there goes that theory.

 

[Fran]

So the bottom line is the red-names with names that start with a "D" are the best.

:meow::heart:

Oh wait, Danger Mouse. Crap, there goes that theory.

He ain't so bad

 

[Lackey]

Oh wait, Danger Mouse. Crap, there goes that theory.

I like Danger Mouse, he voted in the poll. I like him anyway, though.

 

[Matt]

First, let me thank you for a response.

I've seen you overreact Matt, had to butt in when you got into arguments with others and asked you all to cool it. I don't really ban as many as you or others think, I do give more probation then bannings and usually let the person back in a a few days once they cool off. I spend more time merging, moving, trashing and fixing titles as a mod and yes I do play peacemaker now and then

You play peacemaker, but you are more of a shoot first ask questions later type person. And even when you play peacemaker, you aren't like someone like Drakon who just tells people to calm down, you come in, acting like a hardass cop trying to put down a riot. And 95 % of the time (at least when I've been involved), you do it when its not needed. "You're acting stupid" "NO NAME CALLING OR YOU GET PROBATION!" "telling someone they're acting stupid isn't name ca..." "BANNED!"

So it's all right when others ask me to make a sticky even when it's not warrant and I make one I'm a bad mod? I needed to know ASAP about that dvd, sorry you think I'm a ******* abusing my powers just because I wanted help. I do have a sense of humor but Lackey and the others went overboard with the spamming and on that uncall 'abuse of powers'. I have kept a cool head, if you ever bothered to read some of the stuff I see posted and sent to me I would had to ban alot of people but just ignore most of the crap. Only reason why I went down on Lackey was due to that pic which he posted AFTER I pm not to do it again and twice he did and got someone else to post it too and then he promised to behave himself(that sure didn't last long) I even told him if he had admited HIS mistake I would had cutted his probation to a week but he never admit his mistake, hell he even claims it's not me which is pretty dumb thing to said consider I do know it's me in the pic.

He didn't make a mistake, you did. This isn't about the creating of the sticky. As countless others have said, if you just said "Sorry Lackey, its important" or joked with him he would've moved on. Instead you go deleting posts (and that is the abuse of authority), causing them to repost over and over again and that is how you instigated the situation. Aside from the picture, Lackey posted nothing that deserved to be deleted from that thread or nothing that deserved further probation.

You misquoted me on that one, I wasn't making that statement to Twylight but to someone else and I already told her it's up to the other mods if they want to do it too, you have to ask them if they want to did it too, also I don't like to talk to Twy, just stuff she mention in pm's and other stuff I saw she said about me when it's not true and I prefer to keep my distance from her and as for Lackey if you mean I made some remake at him well consider Lackey isn't a nice guy and admits he wants to get banned and says things like this;

My mistake, but regardless, the context was the same. She asked you an honest question and first all you could do was accuse her of doing it at Lackey's request, then when she pushes you for an answer the best you can give is "I can make the rules however I see fit, despite what the FAQ says" (and yes that was about the extent of your response). Do you not see why people get frustrated with you?

(btw I never banned or gave him probation for it even though that's a hateful and crude thing to say) you have to excuse me for being human and not made of stone if I make any zingers at others who do the same at me

Comeon Morg, its beneath you to play the victim. Sure, it is mean and in bad taste but countless others throughout your tenure on the Hype have made light of your disability and you have joked with them and poked fun at yourself even. You are not as sensetive as you are acting in the above post but are simply trying to villify Lackey.

instigates situations? I can point some of the usual troublemakers loves to do that all the time and I'm not the only mod that gets headaches dealing with that crap and since you been around for awhile you do know some of those really love causing all kinds of trouble here, sure sometimes I do come heavy handed but that's due because I usually know how much they have actually done, you guys don't always see everything that happen. I admit I have done a few wrongs moves but still I get alot of flake when I do something right alot of you people still claim I had no right to do it even though it's warranted

Perhaps we don't see everything everyone has done, but maybe that is why you should be more open instead of any time anyone questions you, you simply respond with some smug comment that emphasizes the fact that you are moderator. Its not like probating people is a matter of national security, you're allowed to talk about it. But no, you have to be smug any time anyone asks you a question (just a further example of how you instigate things). Sure, there are some bad apples on the Hype, but your hostitlity just creates them.

 

[Matt]

Oh, and I would please like a moderator to put me on profile probation for as long as Lackey is. I posted in the thread repeatidly as well, and would like the same punishment he recieved. If we're going to abuse rules, we may as well do it fairly, right?

 

[Darthphere]

How is info on DVD something of upmost importance?

 

[Kipobe]

Heh, morgpod.

 

[Lackey]

Earlier yesterday, Jake sent me a PM asking me to sticky his "SHH! Awards". I haven't been here much in the last two weeks because I've been setting up my own site, but last I knew Erz was supposed to be hosting. Since I didn't have time to go back and read all the posts to see what's what, I refered him to Dew, since she would know more than I did. Not that I have anything against Jake, but if Erz was in fact doing this, it woulda been assholish of me to sticky Jake's thread. You woulda called me everything from ******* to pig****er, had that been the case. [Jake already PMed me telling me he hates me--OH NOES!]

This is a good example of double standards, for so many reasons, it's goddamned ******ed. Not saying that the SHH awards are trivial, but sticking every thread for no real reason other than to have it on top is never good, especially since Mirko prefers there to be few stickies. Me, personally? I try to sticky threads that will bring us back to being a community--not a loose collective of *******s on the internet. Like The Lizard said in a post a couple of months ago, this site is really lacking a sense of history. It started with vb3 upgrade, and all went downhill from there. My primary interest is nullify that. That's why I stickied Venom71's thread. That's why C.Lee's baby deserved a sticky.

Morg's sticky wasn't the problem here. I even said it wasn't that big of a deal in my first post. It's the fact that I got punished for calling him on it. That shouldn't have happened.

Something else, too. Lackey, you went in his thread with the entire motive of saying that it was a pointless sticky.

What's wrong with that? Are we going to punish every single poster that goes into a thread to call it spam, say that it's in the wrong forum, etc.
That's not against the rules.

I know, I saw the thread, and I agree that it's not a thread I would have stickied. Not only was it done in an incredibly rude manner, but it was repeated by a lot of people.

Rude or not (anyone can look at my first post and determine for themselves how "incredibly rude" it was), it was the truth and was not against the rules. It was only repeated by myself or "a lot" (i.e. two) people because Morg abused his powers by deleting my posts.

Now, had Morg fought back and flamed you guys back, he'd be an ******* because "since he's a mod, he represents the site". "Mods shouldn't insult posters" [I know this for a fact, because even when mentioned in a teasing manner, I've seen reports in my email box about a mod fighting back in a thread]. Since he couldn't fight back and defend himself the way [I belive] he should have [by flaming your asses back], he had to disicpline.

A mod only should discipline when someone breaks the rules, period. You don't discipline because your feelings got hurt and you can't "fight back." If you do that, then you're abusing your powers and are probably not thick-skinned enough to be mod material.

Would I have made it as long? No. Honestly, I woulda tossed you a single, very stearn warning, and if it was continued, I woulda honestly given you the probation, too.

Well, you didn't say you would've deleted my posts. So if you wouldn't have done that, I wouldn't have had a reason to continue. Also, you said it's not a thread you would have stickied, so the whole incident wouldn't have happened.

I know I keep saying it, but if you don't like it, leave.

That might seem like good advice at the moment, but remember that there was a time when you didn't like it and you didn't leave. So, you should think about that before dispensing the advice.

Go over to Le Soft Parade. Go to Gamer Rejects. But know this. Anything you say on the internet is public. It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility for us to find it, especially when the site is full of Anti-SHHers.

The fact that you call them "Anti-SHHers" just shows you skewed view of things... just like someone might call a person "Anti-American" for not liking the current Whitehouse administration.

Anything you say over on the other site is public knowledge. Yes, we can't punish you for anything you say or do over there, but it does burn bridges. There's no plausible deniability when you talk **** on one site, and come here and act innocent.

That should go for mods, too, when they troll at other sites.

[hint-you can't honestly say "nobody would know it's Morg, when the filename was "MorgIpod.jpeg"]

It doesn't matter whether anybody would know it's Morg or not. I could make a stick figure in MS Paint and have people know it was Morg. Anyway, I mentioned in my first post that although I thought it was unfair to get punished for that picture, I still took the punishment without really fighting it.

Considering there's nothing sacred with you guys [not even a physicial disability], and you have been nothing but busting his nuts all over Tuk and Jess' site, and to a lesser extent on GR, there's plenty reason why he was on the defensive.

Just as there's plenty reason why we would be busting his nuts, Matt (who sides with the mods on many occasions) listed some reasons in a very well-written post.

Would I have acted the same way? Probably not. But he was more justified than a lot of you people who are crying foul are willing to admit.

If a few people are crying foul, they might be wrong. But if pretty much everyone says your wrong, then maybe they're right and you should reevaluate the way you do things.

Don't bother debating me on what I've said above. I very much doubt I'm going to reply. I've been quiet hoping a lot of you people would just shut up and things would be quiet again--I'm afraid I give you too much credit.

You give Morg too much credit, too. And things would be quiet if there was no bad modding going on.

 

[Morg]

How is info on DVD something of upmost importance?

being deaf I was interested in buying it but there's no clue on it if it was CC or in subtitles and since I didn't want to buy it because the store has a policy if you open it you can't return it and I do remember quit a few posters in here were Kiss fans and was hoping one would know whether or not the item was CC or not
and needed to know ASAP since I they charged more on that item buy next week

 

[Darren Daring]

Next week? That's, like, a week away. Why couldn't you have been patient?