I, Darthphere, ask the posters of the Hype to challenge me in.....

[Darthphere]

Civil War continuity mistakes! Think its impossible to explain them, present a mistake, and I will offer the ultimate solution. Bring forth the challenges!

 

[The Question]

Okay: How come Hank Pym couldn't shrink Bill Foster's corps to give him a proper funeral?

 

[gildea]

how come in ASM tony told pete the negative zone prison was permanent and in CW he told him it was only a temporary measure?



(great thread though, are you bringing the no-prizes back single handedly??)

 

[hippie_hunter]

how come in ASM tony told pete the negative zone prison was permanent and in CW he told him it was only a temporary measure?



(great thread though, are you bringing the no-prizes back single handedly??)

Actually he was saying that putting the heroes in a normal prison would only be a temporary measure.

 

[Darthphere]

Okay: How come Hank Pym couldn't shrink Bill Foster's corps to give him a proper funeral?

It is said that Pym can only shrink and grow objects that have been specially-treated with Pym particles beforehand. In the case of Bill Foster, its is a scientific possibility that to attempt to shrink a deceased human being would result in anomalies and permutations in the body's shape, and features. Menaing, you'd end up with a big pile of Goliath pudding.

 

[Darthphere]

how come in ASM tony told pete the negative zone prison was permanent and in CW he told him it was only a temporary measure?



(great thread though, are you bringing the no-prizes back single handedly??)

As you can see, all this needed was a comma to lessen the confusion as Stark was referring to putting detainess in regular prison's would be a temporary solution.


And I didnt know Hippie Hunter was going by the name Darthphere now.

 

[Doc Destruction]

Why are the heroes and government reacting so violently when FAR worse that Stamford has happened in the past?

Why did Peter Parker, the rebel hero working outside the law, decide to become part of the lawful team?

If SHIELD has all these resources to capture all the heroes, why the hell didn't they, oh I don't know, STOP SOME VILLANS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

 

[gildea]

Actually he was saying that putting the heroes in a normal prison would only be a temporary measure.

No he was not. At least grammatically.

The line in question from cw#5 is in response to spiderman questioning the negative zone prison:
"what do you suggest we do with the unregistered super-people? Lock them up with regular prisoners?
This is only a temporary measure. Lock them up in rykers and they'll be out again in 5 minutes"

For it to suggest he was referring to a regular prison he would have used the word "that" as he would have been referencing his prior statment of a supposed solution. But the word used was "this" which is referencing the actual state of affairsm the solution in the works so to speak.

of course you may well be correct in what was intended perhaps marvel may alter it for the trade.

 

[Darthphere]

Why are the heroes and government reacting so violently when FAR worse that Stamford has happened in the past?

Because kids died, and when kids die as a direct result of recklessness by superheroes, it causes an outcry for someone to take responsibility.

Why did Peter Parker, the rebel hero working outside the law, decide to become part of the lawful team?

Because he made a choice, and believe it to be the best choice. He was offered a way to do the things he does (superheroing) without being shot at by police constantly.

If SHIELD has all these resources to capture all the heroes, why the hell didn't they, oh I don't know, STOP SOME VILLANS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Simply put, it wasnt their job to do so. Until the SHRA was put into place and SHIELD was made to oversee the SHRA, they were a spy agency whose main duty was to gather intelligence, have silent wars, and overthrow dictators and such.

 

[gildea]

from the looks of the posts so far it looks like you're not going to get actual continuity errors but lots fan based opinions instead.

g'luck darth.

 

[Darthphere]

from the looks of the posts so far it looks like you're not going to get actual continuity errors but lots fan based opinions instead.

g'luck darth.

Ill take any challenge!

 

[Doc Destruction]

Plenty of kids have died before Stamford. Not buying it.

 

[Darthphere]

Plenty of kids have died before Stamford. Not buying it.

But as a direct result of superhero recklessness caught on tape and the words "Were outclassed" being spoken? i dont think so. NEXT!

 

[Phaedrus45]

How does Jarvis "get it up" while having sex with Aunt May? I don't think Viagra would even work.

 

[Darthphere]

How does Jarvis "get it up" while having sex with Aunt May? I don't think Viagra would even work.

Pym particles.

 

[The Question]

It is said that Pym can only shrink and grow objects that have been specially-treated with Pym particles beforehand. In the case of Bill Foster, its is a scientific possibility that to attempt to shrink a deceased human being would result in anomalies and permutations in the body's shape, and features. Menaing, you'd end up with a big pile of Goliath pudding.

Ah, but Bill Foster had been specially treated with Pym Particles, as he used them regularly when using his powers.

 

[Darthphere]

Ah, but Bill Foster had been specially treated with Pym Particles, as he used them regularly when using his powers.

The excerpt I posted was from his (Pym) Wikipedia page in reference to items he used to carry with him. Ill assume that it works differently for organic beings.

 

[gildea]

This isn't a continuity error but one of those fan based opinions that people seem to think constitutes a continuity error these days but heck I'm enjoying seeing darth do this so here's a couple more :

a) why did cap, with no super strength, try to punch iron man when he is incased in such a powerful armour that steve must have known would have no effect?

b) why was iron man completely outclassed by spidey who in turn was completely outclassed by cap in asm but cap was completely outclassed by iron man?

 

[The Question]

The excerpt I posted was from his (Pym) Wikipedia page in reference to items he used to carry with him. Ill assume that it works differently for organic beings.

Yeah. So, how is there any problem with him shrinking Bill's body? If he can shrink living people, why couldn't he shrink a dead one?

 

[Darthphere]

a) why did cap, with no super strength, try to punch iron man when he is incased in such a powerful armour that steve must have known would have no effect?

The same reason american fotball players in on field fights punch other when the person theyre hitting has full pads and a helmet on, anger/stupidity. For Cap this may not be the case exactly, but technically, Iron man threw the first punch (not with standing the electric shock handshake). Cap was using it much more as a defensive measure to buy time to get his teammates out. A sacrifice you might say.

b) why was iron man completely outclassed by spidey who in turn was completely outclassed by cap in asm but cap was completely outclassed by iron man?

I wouldnt say Iron Man was outclassed by Spider-Man at all. Spider-Man from both ASM and CW high tailed it out of there, and in those fight scenes, Iron Man was reluctant to fight him, you can almost say he let him get away.

 

[gildea]

there are many biological differences between living and dead tissue and organic matter.

 

[Darthphere]

Yeah. So, how is there any problem with him shrinking Bill's body? If he can shrink living people, why couldn't he shrink a dead one?

Because he's dead. The body doesnt function when youre dead as obvious as that sounds, its impossible to know what effect a shrinking would do to a not functioning bio-organism. Pym and Stark worked on the side of caution.

 

[The Question]

there are many biological differences between living and dead tissue and organic matter.

Well, I know that the fact that the dead tissue is dead is a pretty big one. But other than that, why wouldn't Pym be able to shrink a corps. He can shrink non organic matter, so wether or not it's alive seems to have little to do with it.

Because he's dead. The body doesnt function when youre dead as obvious as that sounds, its impossible to know what effect a shrinking would do to a not functioning bio-organism. Pym and Stark worked on the side of caution.

That just doesn't sit with me. The shrinking process that Pym uses is a molecular reaction, not a cellular one. Wether or not cells are alive or dead should have no bearing on it.

 

[gildea]

I wouldnt say Iron Man was outclassed by Spider-Man at all. Spider-Man from both ASM and CW high tailed it out of there, and in those fight scenes, Iron Man was reluctant to fight him, you can almost say he let him get away.

Ok a rephrasing.

Cap couldn't tag iron man
spiderman could and iron man could tag him
but spidey had severe difficulty in tagging cap and cap tagged him with ease.

???

 

[gildea]

so wether or not it's alive seems to have little to do with it.

apparently it does though.

things we as non-scientists can't understand don't constitute mistakes.