The Dark Knight I guess joker just applies make-up after all

[The Joker]

Still love ya, Jack

 

[ShadowoftheBird]

The Joker wears a purple suit with a few stylistic flourishes (spats, orchid, tails, cravatte) that make it appear more clown-like. On its own terms, it's like a Nolanised clown suit. Sadly, Nolan may Nolanise something that has been Nolanised already. That can lead to an overdose of blandness.

I was thinking the exact same thing. Double Nolanization. I guess it's better than the Triple though. The Joker could end up just like Mr. Zsaz, never laugh or smile, be bald, and just wear red lipstick.

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[Silver Souper]

This rests on whether or not Heath was in full makeup/costume. If he wasn't being filmed at the time, then he probably wasn't.

At the same time, I have always believed that his Joker would apply his own makeup. It was quite obvious even in the first official image, where his white facepaint was clearly smeared over his red lips. No one listened at the time!

i don't see what you're seeing regwec- i see bleached, ruined skin with red lipstick in the website photo. that's just me

in this pic IMO the skin doesnt look normal. so even if this is white paint hes skin texture still doesnt look normal. its still looks like something happened to hes skin.

okay regwec so it's me and this guy.

this is very interesting ''dunked in whatever chemical from the front''

i have an image in my head where a nad guy is holding jokers head and he pushes hes head in the chemicals. it would explain why the neck is normal.
i would really like this

i could handle this- it's worlds better than "nutty guy in face paint only" but it's still too similar to two-face.

wait, I thought he was white all over end of story?

not end of story. we're seeing evidences to the contrary. either they're CGing his neck later (no idea why they'd do that- WAY more expensive) or he wears pure face paint (please no) or he adds face paint to his partially disfigured face.

Wonderful. What happens when they catch him and wash his make-up off?

EGGxactly. i can't believe i'm saying this, but this thread needs the guard. some of you guys (not you micah) are missing how crutial the "freak" aspect of the joker is to his persona. face paint does not equal freak. hey speaking of doesn't the bank manager say "what kind of freak are you!?!" i can't imagine a manager saying that to the insane clown posse.

yeah so anyway can someone lock this it's just spinning in lopsided circles

it's called a conversation in a forum. relax. this is good stuff. one of the more relevant threads happening at the moment.

 

[itsthebatman]

I think people are missing the point of my original post. It was not to eulogise Jack, or make people nostalgic, but to make a point about make-up, and the difference between what we think is there and what is needed to make us think it. You think Jacks chest was white during filming?

 

[Silver Souper]

I think people are missing the point of my original post. It was not to eulogise Jack, or make people nostalgic, but to make a point about make-up, and the difference between what we think is there and what is needed to make us think it. You think Jacks chest was white during filming?

no, no one thinks that. and no one's complaining that they use makeup in the real world to achieve the joker on screen. what we're concerned about is the character of the joker using only makeup to achieve his look. that ain't joker.

 

[ShadowoftheBird]

Oh if you were referring to that, then nevermind. I see those as more of "accessories", rather than part of his wardrobe or what makes up his appearance.

Yeah, and I agree with you that his wardrobe isn't strictly clown-like, but I do think it's excessively colorful for standard dress attire.

Mainly, I was trying to emphasize that he plays up the clown largely of his own volition. Given his biological/physical appearance in the comics, he could have just as easily made himself a Bizzaro Batman from day one or some other character. I'm glad he went with clown.
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[Juanigi]

it's called a conversation in a forum. relax. this is good stuff. one of the more relevant threads happening at the moment.

it gets kind of circular to keep hearing people ask if the joker is actually pink underneath the makeup when it's been repeatedly stated that he'll have (at the least) a bleached face

 

[The Joker]

no, no one thinks that. and no one's complaining that they use makeup in the real world to achieve the joker on screen. what we're concerned about is the character of the joker using only makeup to achieve his look. that ain't joker.

Exactly.

 

[Keyser Soze]

no, no one thinks that. and no one's complaining that they use makeup in the real world to achieve the joker on screen. what we're concerned about is the character of the joker using only makeup to achieve his look. that ain't joker.

I still don't think we can confirm either way about the make-up issue judging from that video. He's chilling on-set, skateboarding and chatting with crew. He doesn't even have his suit jacket on: he's just got the pants and the (unbuttoned) shirt.

I'll wait and see what his neck looks like in an official pic, with him in full costume, before I come to any conclusions.

 

[regwec]

i don't see what you're seeing regwec- i see bleached, ruined skin with red lipstick in the website photo. that's just me

At the right (our right) hand corner of Heath's mouth, there is a sort of "dry brushing" of white paint, that has covered the apexes of the grooves of his skin (or his prosthetic skin), but left the troughs red. So The white paint is applied after the red.

 

[Dfens]

Jett sez "He just IS."

 

[TheBat812]

It will not be explained according to Jett, who said, "It just is." Glad they're not going to explore it, and frankly couldn't care less if it's supposed to be make-up or not.

 

[The Joker]

Jett sez "He just IS."

Is what?

 

[Juanigi]

bleached

 

[ShadowoftheBird]

EGGxactly. i can't believe i'm saying this, but this thread needs the guard. some of you guys (not you micah) are missing how crutial the "freak" aspect of the joker is to his persona. face paint does not equal freak. hey speaking of doesn't the bank manager say "what kind of freak are you!?!" i can't imagine a manager saying that to the insane clown posse.

I don't think anyone's missing how important it is that Joker's a freak, I think the distinction here is that some people think it's more important that he's physically a freak and some people think it's satisfactory that he's psychologically a freak. You think a who cuts a scar into his face and the dyes his hair and paints makeup all over isn't a freak? You must know some very interesting people.

And I've met the insane clown posse. You're right, they're not freaks. But I can't argue they're human, either.
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[Dfens]

Is what?

I don't know.Well, since I'm a hate addicted ass, I'm going to twist this around to something that I can dislike.

 

[Kakihara]

I would absolutely love if there was a twist like that.

About this leaked report, if it were true, would that mean he wears joker make-up prejoker? Or that he applies flesh colored make-up to his neck after the incident?

Also after the fox news video and seeing him laugh i think i could enjoy it alot even if it did appear that he wore make-up, but they never found out for sure.

The fact that we even have to try to find a way to see the silver lining in all of this is just proof that this new version of the Joker, at least appearance-wise, isn't working out for many people. Why oh why do directors/writers feel they need to alter an already proven fan-favorite by injecting their own ideas for making the character better-WHY?!

 

[FlawlessVictory]

At the right (our right) hand corner of Heath's mouth, there is a sort of "dry brushing" of white paint, that has covered the apexes of the grooves of his skin (or his prosthetic skin), but left the troughs red. So The white paint is applied after the red.

But regwec, weren't you saying for that same pic, that Heath did not have green hair in it and you were afraid the Joker would not have green hair in TDK?

 

[regwec]

The fact that we even have to try to find a way to see the silver lining in all of this...

This is the thing that always strikes me about films of this nature. Some people are determined to love everything about them. And good luck to them.

 

[Crook]

At the right (our right) hand corner of Heath's mouth, there is a sort of "dry brushing" of white paint, that has covered the apexes of the grooves of his skin (or his prosthetic skin), but left the troughs red. So The white paint is applied after the red.

That's possible, but it doesn't necessarily have to be that. Ever lay down a blank sheet paper down on a gravestone (or any other object with raised lettering/desigins), and color over it with crayon? It could be similar to that.

I don't know if that made sense, hope it's clear enough.

 

[Juanigi]

it's much less stressful to be easily satisfied instead of never satisfied

 

[itsthebatman]

no, no one thinks that. and no one's complaining that they use makeup in the real world to achieve the joker on screen. what we're concerned about is the character of the joker using only makeup to achieve his look. that ain't joker.

But I still don't know how you can tell this. Explain ti to me, seriously. It's all if's, but's and maybe's so far.

I still don't think we can confirm either way about the make-up issue judging from that video. He's chilling on-set, skateboarding and chatting with crew. He doesn't even have his suit jacket on: he's just got the pants and the (unbuttoned) shirt.

I'll wait and see what his neck looks like in an official pic, with him in full costume, before I come to any conclusions.

Thank you. This is my point - we are judging raw footage as finished film and making premature conclusions. Wait and see. If he applies make-up, and that's all he uses to give him his look, I'll be disappointed.
Why are people jumping to negative conclusions so readily?

 

[regwec]

But regwec, weren't you saying for that same pic, that Heath did not have green hair in it and you were afraid the Joker would not have green hair in TDK?

He doesn't have green hair in that picture. It's indisputable. Thankfully, it seems he will in the film. Again, we must count are blessings.

 

[The Joker]

Why are people jumping to negative conclusions so readily?

It's human nature to expect the worst

 

[Juanigi]

ugh imagine how divisive the teaser is going to be

half the theater audience pissing themselves with excitement and the other half ****ting themselves in fury