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The Dark Knight I guess joker just applies make-up after all

What do you think of the latest pic of heath ledger as mista J?

  • Yes its fine that he's a regualr guy that applies white make-up

  • No because his skin should be bleached like its always been


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hehe.
 
No, I meant, let's share recipes. I have many. We can be friends:

Chicken Curry

Ingredients

* Boneless skinless Chicken breasts
* 1 diced onion
* 1 green pepper cut up however you like
* scallions (however much you'd like)
* minced garlic
* vegetable oil
* curry powder!


Pour veggie oil in a pan (make sure you have a lid for this pan) and medium-low heat, add minced garlic to give the oil garlic flavor then take it out once it's browned.

In a small bowl or measuring cup add a little more than tbsps of curry powder (this is just the amount i've found to work) to 1/2 cup of water and mix it up

Pour the curry mix into the pot with the oil and stir it around so it thickens into a sort of paste. Add your chopped veggies (you can add more than what I listed if you want) and cook them for just a bit, then add the chicken breasts and get them coated in the paste. Put the lid on and cook this for about 10 minutes. I flipped mine over half way through. After 10 minutes I cut up the chicken in the pan (actually it's so tender it basically just peels apart) and covered it in the paste and then just cooked it for another minute or so.

Serve with rice.

That cracked me up. Good stuff. :woot:
 
So is it basically confirmed from articles and pics that he wears makeup?
 
So is it basically confirmed from articles and pics that he wears makeup?

I wouldnt say that, not until Nolan himself is on tape as saying he wears makeup....or the movie comes out :woot:
 
Nothing is really confirmed yet. But the smart money is on makeup. At least that's my opinion... and I'm perfectly fine with that.
 
could be refering to Heath though
"What the director has done," says Caine, "which is so clever, is that the Joker has left the makeup and just let it rot off. It is never renewed. He's got a big wide mouth and it gradually almost looks like a bad skin disease."
--Wizard article

I dunno anymore. I still would liek to hope he's bleached, but I don't care thaat much.
 
Yeah, I'm sure Heath put on the makeup on the first day of shooting and decided to never take it off or let the prosthetic appliers fix it up. . .

lol good point, but i interpreted it as "he stays in character" ya know? but im sure you right...why is Caine such a spoil sport?
 
lol good point, but i interpreted it as "he stays in character" ya know? but im sure you right...why is Caine such a spoil sport?

I doubt the Joker wearing makeup even has anything to do with the plot. The fans were just hoping for perma-white so much they made themselves believe it would be a "plot twist" that he really has perma-white skin. Just a throw away comment by Caine at all.
 
I'll repeat my opinion on the vanity/narcissism issue. I think there's an amount of flexibility that goes with it. I mean, obviously, it's an illogical and twisted sense of vanity - he thinks he looks good, but he really doesn't - he's physically a freak and he's dressed in an awful, gaudy suit. If comic Joker can find attractiveness in that, who can say that movie Joker can't find runny makeup attractive? In fact, if Heath's Joker is physically less attractive than his comic counterpart and is still just as in love with himself, that would make his delusions of grandeur even greater. But at this stage, we can't say much either way on this character trait, because we haven't seen enough. But since the rest of his personality seems intact, I think the chances are fairly good.

As far as the makeup issue goes, I was against it at first but I've since settled down, for a few reasons.

Firstly, I'm intrigued by the new avenues this change could lead to. Most notably, my theory that this Joker purposely invented himself ala Batman into something to symbolize anarchy and the great joke that is life. I think that would be a great new spin on their relationship.

Secondly, permawhite Joker will always exist in the comics and Burton's Batman (it's own flaws included). I look forward to being surprised and entertained by a new spin on the character, much for the same reason that I enjoy Elseworlds stories (though this is not anywhere close to a big enough change for me to warrant labeling it Elseworlds).

Finally, I genuinely anticipate quickly forgetting about this minor "inconvenience" by getting wrapped up in the story, and specifically, the Joker's antics. Heath seems SO The Joker to me that I can find myself easily looking past a few smudges on his face, which is ALL it amounts to, essentially, for 95% of the film.

It's like this for me - the guy earlier in the thread with the white sheets analogy; yeah, it doesn't hold up under scrutiny, but I understand and agree with what he meant. If you took Batman and The Dark Knight and cut out the Joker's origin scenes from both (though I don't think TDK even has one) and any subsequent references to it (cut out the whole "You made me!" angle, which I've always found superflous, anyway), the FACT of why Joker is white matters very little. Let me put it another way - pick up any random Joker issue. Disregard what you know about the character's history. How important does his permawhiteness factor in? In that particular story? Not much. Not much at all. It certainly didn't factor in to Joker's first appearance, which is what this movie is heavily based on. That's how I expect to react to the movie; once it moves past the point of the story where the fact that he applies makeup is relevant, I'll forget about it. I won't care. Short of seeing him completely barefaced, I'll be feelin' him as total Joker.
 
could be refering to Heath though

i found the whole quote

London, Nov 25 - Sir Michael Caine said the Joker's role played by actor Heath Ledger in the new Batman movie is as good as Jack Nicholson's in the original 'Batman' released in 1989.


Earlier, Nicholson had expressed his displeasure in not being asked to reprise his role as Joker in 'The Dark Knight', however, Caine, who acts as Alfred the butler believes Ledger's portrayal of Joker is nastier, ananova.com reported.


He said: 'The problem was, how do you top Jack Nicholson as the Joker? Heath Ledger plays the Joker and he is fantastic. I couldn't see how Jack could be topped but he's at least equal to him. It's extraordinary. Jack's Joker was a very nasty old uncle, this Joker is a maniacal, murderous psychopath.


'And when you see the make-up - he looks like he's mentally gone. He puts the make-up on to disguise himself and then goes and never takes it off again, or washes, so gradually it looks like leprosy. I'm a great fan of Christopher Nolan. I thought 'Batman Begins' was the best Batman I'd ever seen. And I think this one will be better than that.'


The movie is directed by Christopher Nolan and stars Christian Bale as Batman
 
I doubt the Joker wearing makeup even has anything to do with the plot. The fans were just hoping for perma-white so much they made themselves believe it would be a "plot twist" that he really has perma-white skin. Just a throw away comment by Caine at all.

im sure it doesnt, but i have to ask a couple of questions now...since we pretty much know its not perma-white and that cant be the twist (probably) then do you think we will see Joker with out makeup on, thats really what i dont want to see. And what do you think the twist will be?
 
Looks like there will be a 5 min trailer released with I am Legend that is supposed to be the forst five minutes of the film....a recap of Joker's rise to power.
 
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