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The Dark Knight I use to hate Joker...

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I use to hate the character Joker. I saw Nicholson, the Hamill cartoon version, and that weird 60's version. Then all the stupid comic-book drawings and I grew to hate him... meaning, I disliked the character. Then I heard he was gonna be in The Dark Knight and my first thought was "oh great... :whatever:"

but after seeing Heath Ledger's performance I can honestly say that I love the character now! This is how Joker was SUPPOSE to be!!!
 
not in complete agreement but i posted this on another forum

my theory is that with nolan's world the villian always says something about the character of batman, ducard/Ra's was part of how bruce learned to control the fear that takes over peoples lives, the fact that they ended up on different sides says something about batman's compassion even at the end he couldn't kill Ra's, but he couldn't save him from his destructive philosophy either. this is better opposed to burton's world where batman was created by the jack and all that it really means it they are very similar.

in this it seems the joker is the anti-batman. he is the blood thirsty anarchy that opposes batman's peace and order. the war between the cops and the mob manifests with these two. Bale in an interview said that the overall theme of the film is one man realizing that his goal of saving gotham might not be a finite one. We know from the trailer that the mob hammered in their desperation by batman fight back using a man they don't fully understand.

I expect that batman at the beginning of the film will have almost completely saved the city. I expect it to be a different gotham.

but then the joker will appear and everything will go to hell. Its symbolic, some no matter how much truth they see will always refuse salvation. some men just want to see the world burn. i expect a very unhappy ending to the dark knight.

on a side not i have heard rumors of possibly a couple of other villians to be in the film. I think it would be nice to see a certain oswald copplepot in a small part as one of the remaining mafia heads.
 
I use to hate the character Joker. I saw Nicholson, the Hamill cartoon version, and that weird 60's version. Then all the stupid comic-book drawings and I grew to hate him... meaning, I disliked the character. Then I heard he was gonna be in The Dark Knight and my first thought was "oh great... :whatever:"

but after seeing Heath Ledger's performance I can honestly say that I love the character now! This is how Joker was SUPPOSE to be!!!
you saw it?
 
I use to hate the character Joker. I saw Nicholson, the Hamill cartoon version, and that weird 60's version. Then all the stupid comic-book drawings and I grew to hate him... meaning, I disliked the character. Then I heard he was gonna be in The Dark Knight and my first thought was "oh great... :whatever:"

but after seeing Heath Ledger's performance I can honestly say that I love the character now! This is how Joker was SUPPOSE to be!!!

Did u read those comics or any comics preferably the more dark graphic novels with the joker in them? Because theres ones out there aside from Jokers 1st appearance and TKJ that I see the joker from TDK in.
 
but after seeing Heath Ledger's performance I can honestly say that I love the character now! This is how Joker was SUPPOSE to be!!!

What did you find so drastically different about Ledger's Joker to all the previous incarnations of Joker, including the comic books, that made you love the character?
 
Did u read those comics or any comics preferably the more dark graphic novels with the joker in them? Because theres ones out there aside from Jokers 1st appearance and TKJ that I see the joker from TDK in.
could you list some for my benefeit? :yay:
 
I don't think there's been a version of Joker I've actively disliked - aside from 'The Batman' version, who doesn't count. I liked the 60's version, the Nicholson version, and the BTAS version. Although, I'm becoming a wee bit burnt out from seeing him all the time in comics.

Can I ask what you like about Heath's take? Because if it's that he's seems darker, then the comics have that in abundence.
 

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