If Darkseid IS going to appear, I guess we've seen his Smallville version already

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And it's probably what they'll do anyways, because of the show's grounded universe. And its the version seen from Grant Morrison's Seven Soldiers.

In case any one of you don't know what I'm talking about: Seven Soldiers was a long line of comics books written by Grant Morrison where the new version of the Seven Soldiers of Victory fight the Sheeda race.

DC VERSION:
In the series, we learn that Darkseid and the rest of the New Gods (both for him and against him) have embodied human forms (Darkseid now known as Boss Dark Side, wearing subglasses to hide his red eyes) and all of them operate in an underground club called the Dark Side Club. They recruit new loyal servants, and like Roulette metahuman fight club, they provide a fighting ring for their wealthy patrons. The metahumans happen to come from Granny Goodness' orphanage, where captured orphans are fed drugs, and then abused and controlled by Granny. Another factor, and important plot point from Final Crisis, is that the captured metahuman children have been taught to say the Anti-Life Equation; an objective Darkseid/Boss Dark Side plans to use to win the planet Earth.

Here is Darkseid as Boss Dark Side:
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And that could be Smallville's Darkseid if they go that far. And because I like to hope and dream (then later, suffer the fall of that dream), here is the my...

PERDICTION FOR SMALLVILLE:
Just like the comic, we have the Dark Side Club. And also like the comic, their human roles have the following roles: from Apokolips; Desaad is a psychiatrist, Granny Goodness's a pimp, and Darkseid is their evil gang leader, Boss Dark Side. And to round off the New Gods, New Genesis is featured too (again, like ther comic), and for them they are: Highfather and his followers are now a group of homeless people, while Metron uses a wheelchair, and Orion is believed dead (this is where my perdiction comes in). We can say that, because it'll be the case here (because of television), that their human bodies are their true bodies in this take.

I perdict: Checkmate has known that Darkseid would attack, but didn't know when; so they wanted to be prepared, with Waller doing the wrong things for good reasons (arresting the JSA, and as we'll see later from this post, harassing Clark for info on the new heroes). Darkseid acts like the devil, and anytime he is seen with someone, it comes off like a Twilight Zone episode where that person goes as far as he wouldn't but does go to achieve his/her goals. In the process, whether they're stopped or not by Clark/The Blur, Dark Side comes to their aid, and takes them to their club to be "rounded off" (as in, they showed loyality, and now they're be trained by being abused and drugged). Turpin comes into play and he will be facing off against Darkseid/Dark Side before Clark does. Also, Darkseid/Dark Side knowns about a certain "savior" in Clark, dubbing as the Blur. And in a twist and using the actor that they had for Season 8; Darkseid/Dark Side brings back Lex Luthor in a new but similar form.

And as the season progresses; Darkseid reveals himself and he brings hell on Earth (similar to the events of Final Crisis). This is where Clark comes in, says the world needs hope and not darkness, and...well, this is where the show has to come in, because of course, since Season 10 is (or has to be) the final season, what I just sais leads into the final step Clark takes to become, or the moments he finally becomes, Superman!

That's my perdiction.
 
to me i dont see why they would go with that human possesion darkseid, or dark side deal. We have seen it already with the phantoms in season 6 and to a degree with davis bloome. For me as i pointed out a few times i see no reason why we can have a living breathing darkseid appearing. Now yea physically he could be a tough one to pull off. But if they went something along the lines of the doomsday monster suit it could look great.

Now we would probably only hear darkseid voice for a bunch of episodes and leave only seeing him in full glory for like 2-4 episodes. Like mid season break, an episode in the middle, and the series finale and all that. That way a whole body costume deal could work out.

And to keep the darkseid storyline going they could easily bring in a majority of his main minions. To cause problems on earth, get it ready for his arrival, and to challenge the living kryptonian they learn is on earth. I would see dasaad(easy look to pull off), granny goodness(another easy look and maybe an episode about her female furies), and possibly also kalibak too.

This is how i would like darkseid to be done. As for the whole new genesis/new gods stuff. Might be bit of a strecth to get them in there too. Though if they do i could see just mentions of them. With maybe the chance of orion coming to earth to help things out in like 1-2 episodes.
 
Watching Dollhouse and think harry Lennix would be a great choice for Darkseid on a tv budget. He's 6'4 and a huge presence. Just stick an effect on the voice, which is already pretty good for it.
 
I don't know. I have a hard time imagining anyone under 7 foot tall pulling off a God who is literally 8 foot 6 tall. :) And who weighs 575 pounds.

To me, I will be very disappointed in Smallville if they don't make him the full height. Yes, he's taller than Doomsday, hell, he's literally the tallest Supervillian that's not Giganata or whatever her name is. :)

He's ungodly tall, and to me, it would an extremely poor choice to not try for the full height.
CGI is not that hard to make someone grow a few feet.
 
I don't know. I have a hard time imagining anyone under 7 foot tall pulling off a God who is literally 8 foot 6 tall. :) And who weighs 575 pounds.

To me, I will be very disappointed in Smallville if they don't make him the full height. Yes, he's taller than Doomsday, hell, he's literally the tallest Supervillian that's not Giganata or whatever her name is. :)

He's ungodly tall, and to me, it would an extremely poor choice to not try for the full height.
CGI is not that hard to make someone grow a few feet.

There are few humans that reach close to 7 feet, fewer are taller than that and likely almost none of those few can act.

They should get the guy who played Theokoles, Rueben De Jong, he was really tall and well built too. Although, he's probably from New Zealand since he's only ever done shows filmed there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rueben_De_Jong

He's 6'10" and he did a fair job in Spartacus, even if there wasn't much to the role aside from nearly killing Crixus and growling a lot...



Although he does look a tad out of shape in that picture there. Looks like he's really holding in his gut.
 
Well, as long as they can get a guy who can act good enough for Darkseid, that's fine. As long as he can also pull off the look of someone much much taller.

I don't know, I don't think it's that impossible to find someone who can pull off a 2 foot taller body with CGI.

The main thing is Tom Welling cannot be that close to as tall as Darkseid, so they better work on making the actor they hire look close enough to the 8 foot 6 part to be believable.

I just don't want to see Tom Welling tower over Darkseid. :)

I'm reminded of the few actors that are taller than 7 feet, and or close to it, such as the actor who played Odin on Xena.
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Alexander Petersons. I don't know exactly how close to 7 feet he is, but it's really hard to pull of a Norse God if you're under 6 foot 6. :)

Plus, he hasn't done anything since 2008, so, hey, he's probably really cheap to hire. :)
Although, to be honest, I don't see him pulling off Darkseid. Highfather, yes. For Obvious reasons.
So, if you can provide me someone better than him that's not really expensive, it should work.

Baring that, maybe they could get Ganesh. I'm sure Elephant Headed Gods can't be that expensive...even if they're mostly depicted as being around as tall as the Earth-Moon orbit.

Or maybe they could hire the actor who played Ganesh in Supernatural. I'm certain he's not short.
 
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I'd like someone that can act the part. Ron Perlman pulled off Hellboy and is only 6' 1. He'd be great as Darkseid too but I doubt they'd get him. You just need some BIG heels.
 
Yeah, I think Gene Hackman will show up on Smallville before Ron Perlman does.

Also, Tim Curry played Darkness in the movie Legend. Tom Cruise's first movie. He even had crooked teeth. :)

But I don't want Ron Perlman or Tim Curry on Smallville. Yes, they are really good at being tall strong people, but Darkness is like half as tall as a Cyberdemon from Doom. :)

For reference, Darkseid is as small as Allison Mack compared to Darkness. :) Let alone the Cyberdemon from Doom. Not Doom 3. That was like 100 feet tall.

However, I don't think Ron will work in this case. I'm 6 foot 1. I liked Hellboy, but Ron, no, you're not going to pull off Darkseid.

We need an actor that is capable of pulling off a roll of 8 foot 6, with help from CGI.
I like Ron, but he'd need a lot of CGI help to pull that off.

He's not imposing enough. That should tell you something. :)
We're talking about a God here, Darkseid.
 
Well if they are going for monster suit and all I agree they need someone taller then tom. Heck they could easily use either stunt guys who did persaruader or doomsday suit for that. I believer they were at least 6'8. Or heck go with a wrestler like that matt morgan guy he is like 6'8-6'10 plus add a inch or two in boots to give more height.
 
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Yeah, but it's not really a monster suit that will help. It's more only CGI.
It's going to be just about the only way they can get Darkseid on, CGI + a suit.
Plus an extremely tall actor.

Okay, here's my choice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kane_Hodder

That's Jason Voorhees himself. :)
Now that would make a good Darkseid, with help from CGI.
 
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Well doing a full cgi darkseid would be foolish and they don't ave the money to do it. Doing a suit/costume deal would be a cheaper route and I am sure that is what they are going to do. Cause if they were going to do for example boss dark side deal they could have done it and gone with any random actor.
 
Well, yeah, the costume for Darkseid in full CGI would be like a million dollars or something. :)

But yeah, like I said, a full suit + tall actor + CGI = Darkseid.
 
They just need to do costume and body suit and it probably wouldn't be that much steetch for budget.
 
put darksied in doomsday's body, which is wandering around at the bottom of that hole.
 
yea would be cool to get a known voice to do voice if they wanted. also with the rumor i was just reading that doomsday could return. Maybe they will have darkseid take over his body. Which when it happens it alters it. So then maybe they make some cosmetic changes to the doomsday suit to look more darkseid like. Would be neat.
 
yea would be cool to get a known voice to do voice if they wanted. also with the rumor i was just reading that doomsday could return. Maybe they will have darkseid take over his body. Which when it happens it alters it. So then maybe they make some cosmetic changes to the doomsday suit to look more darkseid like. Would be neat.

like I just said... it's the cheapest route for sure. The costume is already there... they just need to pull off the bones, and come up with new face makeup.... and they have Micheal Ironside already on contract.
 
Ya I am sure the doomday suit could be alter to work as darkseid or hwck just hire the maker to do a new suit. As cool as ironside would be for voice they probably would go with someone else.
 
Ya I am sure the doomday suit could be alter to work as darkseid or hwck just hire the maker to do a new suit. As cool as ironside would be for voice they probably would go with someone else.

he's already done it, just another wasted opportunity by SV
 
Not really they used him as the general which was a good move. No different then stamp as jorel, reeve as swann, kidder as her role and other known actors in the show.
 
And Dean Cain as Vandal (Call me Dr. Curtis Knox) Savage. :)

And uh, if they tried to make Darkseid possess Doomsday, it would be catastrophically bad.

Not only would that make Zero sense according to the Smallville interpretation of Darkseid and Doomsday, but it would make zero sense according to any actually interpretation of Doomsday or Darkseid, in any incarnation.

Him controlling people, and/or possessing them isn't that far out of the character of Darkseid, he is of course, The God of Evil. No, really, that's what he is. I don't know if he gave himself that title or not.

Darkseid was kind of a nice guy until his mother poisoned his girlfriend. But that's not for this topic. :)

And check your PM again, Webhead.
 
I was just saying a theory if that doomsday rumor was true which it doesn't look to be. Though I stil say if they altered the doomsday suit or just made a all new suit it would be cool for darkseid.
 
Yeah, a very altered suit. :)
We'll wait and see.

not that much. Pull off the bones... and it's a DS suit, one you throw some spandex overtop of it. The facial make up would be different without saying. Simply Put: a DS costume is a Doomsday costume, without the bones.
 

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