IF Marvel Got the Rights Back and Announced FF in 2020 . . .

[Frankeh]

Hugh Dancy for Reed Richards!

 

[Val_Zod]

FF rights are not remotely worth 500 million. Funniest thing I've ever read. Anything paid would have to be weighed versus future profit. Frankly I think a future ff movie is toast

It was at best worth 500m before this trainwreck. So if you're going to be condescending, consider what I wrote.

Also, FF as a property is worthless in anyone else's hands, but for Marvel, they have the necessary branding, and established universe to repair FF. They've manage to make virtually unknown properties that were going to be tough to sell become giant hits. Repairing a damaged, yet known IP is possible in their hands, though it will take time.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

I dont know about franco man, i couldnt take him seriously as a scientist in rotpota
everyone else is spot on though.

Fair enough. I would like him to be someone in the MCU at somepoint though.


Jake Gylly is my backup as Reed (2020 age 39)

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Now that i could get down with. As long as he's written very well.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

I don't really like Jake in more normal roles. I think it's stuff out of his comfort zone like Nightcrawler where he really shines.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

i just feel like they need to stop casting losers.

The character isn't "Cool" we get that. But cast someone interesting so that when the time comes that they start stretchin around we aren't just like, "look at that loser doing loser stuff"

(just my two cents)

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Matt Bomer for instance (i know this whole forum has a warm gooey side for Bomer)

 

[Serpico Jones]

Hugh Dancy for Reed Richards!

Damn, that's a great choice.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Hugh Dancy for Reed Richards!

now this is definitely my design

 

[Infinight888]

Also, FF as a property is worthless in anyone else's hands, but for Marvel, they have the necessary branding, and established universe to repair FF. They've manage to make virtually unknown properties that were going to be tough to sell become giant hits. Repairing a damaged, yet known IP is possible in their hands, though it will take time.

Yeah, but Marvel can turn ANYTHING into gold. As you said, they've already proven that with time and time again. Marvel could pay $500M for the Fantastic Four rights... Or they could just make a movie about The Runaways, Young Avengers, Sentry or Cloak and Dagger, and still make them profitable. The fact that Marvel can do that doesn't mean those properties are inherently valuable. It just means that the MARVEL brand is valuable.

The same is true of a Fantastic Four movie. The team itself isn't valuable now. It would only serve Marvel because of THEIR brand recognition, which should add nothing to the price of the property.

 

[Surfer]

Matt Bomer for instance (i know this whole forum has a warm gooey side for Bomer)

Not sure if he is as good of an actor as Hugh Dancy, but this image you posted of Matt Bomer to me really does look like he could easilly translate into Reed Richards visually.

Surfer

 

[Frodo]

I actually think they should cast 4 bigger name actors in the roles. It would sort of place emphasis on the idea that you have this fab quartet of actors and characters who could each stand on their own and each have their own star power. However, the recent failures do make that option less attractive to bigger named stars , but that's what I would suggest.

Charlize Theron would be my choice for Sue Storm, assuming she doesn't get Captain Marvel.

 

[Val_Zod]

Yeah, but Marvel can turn ANYTHING into gold. As you said, they've already proven that with time and time again. Marvel could pay $500M for the Fantastic Four rights... Or they could just make a movie about The Runaways, Young Avengers, Sentry or Cloak and Dagger, and still make them profitable. The fact that Marvel can do that doesn't mean those properties are inherently valuable. It just means that the MARVEL brand is valuable.

The same is true of a Fantastic Four movie. The team itself isn't valuable now. It would only serve Marvel because of THEIR brand recognition, which should add nothing to the price of the property.

There is something to gain when getting FF back, and Marvel will consider that. The biggest take away that people have brought up were the ancillary characters, and races attached. I don't see Marvel necessarily accepting a 500m price tag to buy back the rights, but I do see them considering the possibilities offered by getting the rights. There is opportunity to mine.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

crap. just realized Natalie Dormer is already in the MCU :P

 

[Val_Zod]

crap. just realized Natalie Dormer is already in the MCU :P

I have a suggestion, Carey Mulligan.

 

[Infinight888]

There is something to gain when getting FF back, and Marvel will consider that. The biggest take away that people have brought up were the ancillary characters, and races attached. I don't see Marvel necessarily accepting a 500m price tag to buy back the rights, but I do see them considering the possibilities offered by getting the rights. There is opportunity to mine.

The issue is that there's a certain amount of money to be made by Marvel from ANY of their properties and that they have a limited number of slots available each year to make movies in. That means they'll have to push back Ant-Man 2/Planet Hulk/Black Widow, all of which WOULD be profitable to Marvel anyway, in order to make room for the Fantastic Four. Basically, the only way that would be even remotely worth it to Marvel would be if they could repair the brand so much that they could make back the $500M + production and marketing costs + whatever the profit would have been from whatever hypothetical movies would have been in those slots had Marvel not instead made Fantastic Four.

They would honestly be better off just letting Fox sit on the rights for another 7 years... Or just give them the X-Men TV series with no exchange of money on either side (which honestly seems more like Marvel's style anyway).

 

[Val_Zod]

The issue is that there's a certain amount of money to be made by Marvel from ANY of their properties and that they have a limited number of slots available each year to make movies in. That means they'll have to push back Ant-Man 2/Planet Hulk/Black Widow, all of which WOULD be profitable to Marvel anyway, in order to make room for the Fantastic Four. Basically, the only way that would be even remotely worth it to Marvel would be if they could repair the brand so much that they could make back the $500M + production and marketing costs + whatever the profit would have been from whatever hypothetical movies would have been in those slots had Marvel not instead made Fantastic Four.

They would honestly be better off just letting Fox sit on the rights for another 7 years... Or just give them the X-Men TV series with no exchange of money on either side (which honestly seems more like Marvel's style anyway).

Well I'm not saying they should pay up, rather I wouldn't be surprised if they did at a reasonable price. There's more that goes into making this type of deal than just the films themselves. Merchandise is a sweeter deal from this than just the films themselves. I'd also imagine if Marvel did pay up, they'd ask in return a large % return off the streaming of the Xmen tv show.

 

[Joe Rockhead]

I really laugh at the delusion that you could hire big name, A-list movie actors for a new Fantastic Four movie... Even if it were at Marvel.

After the reception to Trank's film, I doubt there are any actors who would take a chance on the FF. certainly no credible agent would recommend it as a positive career move. Your best bet is getting young, critically acclaimed, up and coming TV actors for the roles.

Any new feature film treatment of the Fantastic Four is really going to struggle to bring people together to create it, and then it's going to be a monumental task to sell it to the general public.

It is truly dark days for the Fantastic Four as far as I can see, and that makes me sad.

 

[lordofthenerds]

i just feel like they need to stop casting losers.

They're not casting losers. The screenwriters are writing Reed as a shy geek or "loser". No actor necessarily has to play a shy geek... they're actors after all.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Reed Richards - Armie Hammer

Ben Grimm - Bobby Cannavale (though maybe too old at this point and he'd need blue contacts)

Sue Storm - Sarah Jones

Johnny Storm - Luke Benward

 

[SSJ4_Haruhi]

Your Reed picture is broken, but those look like good cast members.

 

[X-Maniac]

Some quite good casting suggestions in here.

But i doubt a new F4 movie would appear so soon.

Marvel/Disney would use some of the villains (Galactus, Surfer, Skrulls) and reintroduce the F4 gradually (as they are doing with Spidey), maybe first have a cameo from Reed Richards being consulted by Tony Stark. Or have Reed becoming the franchise's new brainbox scientist if RDJ bows out after Civil War.

 

[SSJ4_Haruhi]

Yes, I definitely think we'll just see Reed first when eventually Marvel get the F4 back.

I kind of doubt that Marvel would show us their origins again. A user here suggested that maybe in another Marvel film we hear about their space accident, then perhaps a year after we get their film.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Some quite good casting suggestions in here.

But i doubt a new F4 movie would appear so soon.

Marvel/Disney would use some of the villains (Galactus, Surfer, Skrulls) and reintroduce the F4 gradually (as they are doing with Spidey), maybe first have a cameo from Reed Richards being consulted by Tony Stark. Or have Reed becoming the franchise's new brainbox scientist if RDJ bows out after Civil War.

Yes, I definitely think we'll just see Reed first when eventually Marvel get the F4 back.

I kind of doubt that Marvel would show us their origins again. A user here suggested that maybe in another Marvel film we hear about their space accident, then perhaps a year after we get their film.

This is why I think the idea of a 1960's film isn't likely. They need to re-introduce them slowly and Reed Richards would almost certainly be the one we'd see first.

Reed is an important part of the Marvel Universe not because of his powers, but because of his brain, and if they had the rights, it would make perfect sense to have him involved in Infinity Wars even if the FF hasn't gotten their powers yet.

Seeing real Reed Richards - not the watered down, yech Fox versions - in the Infinity Wars films would go a long way toward erasing the memory of those Fox films and setting the FF up for their own film.

And I also think it would be a perfect time to introduce pre-accident Victor Von Doom.

 

[Web-Head]

Bobby Canavale is already in the MCU