If Miller Is Off The Project...Who Is YOUR Director?

[Superhobo]

Is he a casual fan or a hardcore one? How up to date on the character is he?

Your guess is as good as mine.

 

[Orin]

Nolan had David Goyer. A comic fan whose even written long runs for DC himself.

What does that have to do with the fact, that Nolan, just like Miller with Justice League, wouldn't have been mentioned by anyone for Batman? And did that assure us that Nolan was the right choice as director? Not really, it just made it likely that the writer was the right choice. And it's not like Goyer didn't do crap before. However, if anything, that argument can be used anaginst the Mulroneys but surley not against Miller.

Singer had Tom DeSanto, another major comic fan, co-writing his script. Without someone to guide him like on X-men we got Superman Returns.

Miller has nobody writing the script, that I know of, like that working on his script.

Acutally, i have no idea how much the Mulroneys know about comic books or not. But even if they didn't have any knowledge of the DCU, since they based their script on actual comic book storylines, i guess it's save to say they did their research. You know, it's just that funny liltte fanboy thing to assume only people who did similar stuff before are able to do something good with a comic book franchise. Maybe it has something to do with the fact, that they fear a wrong portrayl of their characters so much. But guys, whatever they do, it won't assure us a good movie. They could let a comic book fan write or direct this movie and it could turn out to be crap, just like a non-comic reader can make something great out of it. In the end, it's just important that you get a good writer/director.

IMO, Miller is such a director. It's not like he's one of my favorites (that would be guys like Scorsese, Lynch, Fincher, Burton, Cameron, De Palma and so on) but since out of this list, only Cameron would be a good fit for JLA, i have only one candidate. While i have to judge on every other choice indivdually, by considering the movies that i see from this director. With Miller, there are 7 movies i've seen and non of them were crap, while pretty much all of them had some depth. Yeah, he didn't make a movie like Justice League before, but he did all diffenrent kinds of movies and did well will all of them. So why should i want someone else doing this? Especially when i don't think any of the guys that are being brought up by the fandom are as overall talanted as Miller. I don't know how Millers movie will turn out, but it's the same thing with however i say should replace him.
You know, sometimes i think fans just want to change things for the sake of changing. For gods sake, let Miller show you what he wants to do with this movie before you wish him to hell. It's not like he's McG or anything...

Is he a casual fan or a hardcore one? How up to date on the character is he?

Since he's talking about the Justice League being related to the greek gods, something that Morrison did like 10 years ago, i guess you can say that he's at least as up to date as that. And that surely dosn't come from someone who only knows these characters from superfriends...

 

[Webhead2006]

I was saying this the other day the best thing they should do/or should have done is hire some jla comic writers/bruce timm in the film as consulants to over look things. Like i believe the created of gi joe is working on the film of it right now.

 

[Maze]

As reported in TV Guide last week, Dermot's brother and sister-in-law are Kieran and Michelle Mulroney, the screenwriters on "Justice League of America," the upcoming Warner Bros. live-action film. Mulroney sees symmetry to their current projects.

"Kieran and I grew up reading DC comics," Mulroney said. "We had a whole system where, once a week, we'd take a trip to the little store that sold the comics. I have a couple of brothers, and we'd all fight over who got which issue. So there's a long history of comics in the family."

http://forums.earth-2.net/index.php?showtopic=3018

 

[Showtime]

Why do I feel like I've already seen that quote from months ago...

 

[Webhead2006]

because u have i believe it was posted here somewhere last yr.

 

[Showtime]

Ah reading people you are surely right.

now i found too from day one the prospect of a jl movie exciting .. but never in my wildest dreams i would have thought that Miller would do this movie.i was ready to have at best Wiseman (ok director imo ) ..and was "dreaming" to have a Snyder. ( good director but that's it imo.. that's the best i was expecting from Warner for this kind of job )

anyways, it will take some images , a trailer, to begin to change people minds (or on the contrary they will lose all hope t: )

I am excited about the possibility of all the major DC heroes on screen together. That is just epic, whether I am excited about this project or not is another story. I don't even know exactly what this project is at this point, none of us do.

Okay, i understand that. It's not like i was running around telling how great Miller was, before he got attached to JLA. But if you would've asked me what i think of him, i always would've said that i think he's a very talented man. And i'm happy a director, i consider talented, is doing this movie, when there are ALOT of directors out where that is not the case. You know, it's not like "okay, i always thought this guy sucked, but now that he does Justice League, i like him...", it's just being glad to have someone who's work IMO stands for good quality doing this movie...

I think all directors at that level have some degree of talent for the most part. The question is Miller the best guy to helm JLA? He doesn't have to be the most heralded director of all time, but is he the best option for Justice League?

 

[Maze]

Mulroney credits :

Kieran Mulroney :His film and television credits include John Hughes's Career Opportunities, the Emmy Award Winning series From the Earth to the Moon and the Sundance award-winner The Spitfire Grill. He is a graduate of Columbia University, where he studied English Literature and Film Theory. Michele Mulroney graduated from the University of London and trained as a director at the Central School of Speech & Drama in London. She founded and served as director of the Mill Grove Children's Theatre and is the author of a number of plays and musicals. Michele has directed for the stage in both the United Kingdom and Los Angeles. Together, they spent a season writing for the Emmy nominated PBS series Wishbone and most recently worked on the Doug Liman project Mr. & Mrs. Smith

http://www.filmmakermagazine.com/blog/2004/04/sundance-screenplay-readings.php



we know that one of their script , paper man (hinting at comic book it seem) in devellopement(with Paul Giamatti attached) has been selected for the 2004 January Screenwriters Lab

Kieran and Michele Mulroney (co-writers/co-directors), U.S.A.
"Paper Man"
A frustrated writer spends a lonely winter on Cape Cod, where he is forced to choose between a world-weary superhero, an extinct bird, and a 16-year-old local girl in this coming-of-middle-age story.

http://www.screenwritersutopia.com/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=1108

the Jl script was part of last year black list

compiled from the suggestions of over 150 film executives and high-level assistants, each of whom contributed the names of up to 10 of their favorite scripts that were written in, or are somehow uniquely associated with, 2007

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/black-list-2007-1-danny-strongs-recount/

 

[Showtime]

because u have i believe it was posted here somewhere last yr.

That is what I thought? It seems old.

 

[Showtime]

Mulroney credits :




http://www.filmmakermagazine.com/blog/2004/04/sundance-screenplay-readings.php



we know that one of their script , paper man (hinting at comic book it seem) in devellopement(with Paul Giamatti attached) has been selected for the 2004 January Screenwriters Lab





http://www.screenwritersutopia.com/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=1108

the Jl script was part of last year black list



http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/black-list-2007-1-danny-strongs-recount/

You're rehashing old stuff that was already posted.

 

[Maze]

I am excited about the possibility of all the major DC heroes on screen together. That is just epic, whether I am excited about this project or not is another story. I don't even know exactly what this project is at this point, none of us do.

we don't yes.

but we have some hints .. some of them are strange t:

but that + Miller's work in mind i can imagine a true epic comic book live.

i know that you don't see it. the intent is not to convince you anyways.

I think all directors at that level have some degree of talent for the most part. The question is Miller the best guy to helm JLA? He doesn't have to be the most heralded director of all time, but is he the best option for Justice League?

Again i understand your concerns reading you but what can i say without sounding like a broken record? for me me yes one the best one. i hope that he'll deliver like i know he cans. you can quote me on this in the future "he will"

 

[Maze]

You're rehashing old stuff that was already posted.

Lol well some people were not aware of that, the same argument about their non comic book knowledge were posted (and doubts about their experience)

 

[Showtime]

Lol well some people were not aware of that, the same argument about their non comic book knowledge were posted (and doubts about their experience)

Their resumes are fairly thin in the writing department. Doesn't mean they are bad, but they don't have a stacked resume for sure.

 

[Maze]

Well some artists have a long resumee and are hack other have thin resumee but are good.

Look at a Cameron .(that one like him or not) that doesn't mean a lot.

 

[Showtime]

we don't yes.
but we have some hints .. some of them are strange
but that + Miller's work in mind i can imagine a true epic comic book live.
i know that you don't see it. the intent is not to convince you anyways.

Hopefully we won't have to imagine it and it actually gets made.

Again i understand your concerns reading you but what can i say without sounding like a broken record? for me me yes one the best one. i hope that he'll deliver like i know he cans. you can quote me on this in the future "he will"

I am still not betting on a will, only because this movie is like a roller coaster.

 

[Showtime]

Well some artists have a long resumee and are hack other have thin resumee but are good.

Look at a Cameron .(that one like him or not) that doesn't mean a lot.

Well it goes against the whole theory that some have saying, "Miller did Babe's Revenge and Happy Feet, so he must be good. You can't have that same theory with the writers.

 

[Maze]

Hopefully we won't have to imagine it and it actually gets made.

t:Indeed.. hmmm < make a prayer

I am still not betting on a will, only because this movie is like a roller coaster.

Well we'll have to wait and you know the drill

 

[Maze]

Well it goes against the whole theory that some have saying, "Miller did Babe's Revenge and Happy Feet, so he must be good. You can't have that same theory with the writers.

Well Miller has a "thin resumee" when you compare him with other directors of his time?

And anyways the point is not to ay that the Mulroney are good. the point is they have been notice. is there a reason? i don't know i don't know their work.

 

[Showtime]

Well Miller has a "thin resumee" when you compare him with other directors of his time?

And anyways the point is not to ay that the Mulroney are good. the point is they have been notice. is there a reason? i don't know i don't know their work.

I think in Miller's case though, he has come out with revolutionary films like Mad Max and Happy Feet along with small but poignant films such as Lorenzo's Oil. Quality over quantiy is what your point is I believe. So I agree with that.

In regarsd to the Mulroney's, industry chatter suggests the script was done well, so they obviously are considered good writers I guess.

 

[Maze]

I'm not sure to understand what you are talking about there showime : i have evidence in the work of Miller that imo he is good for Jla.

there is not comparaison with the mulroney. i don't know their work. the fact is one when people say that they don't have a background in comics. it seem that it isn't true. 2 when people say that they" haven't done nothing " It seem that it isn't true either.

3 their work has been noticed almost each time. after that everybody can be worried , we can speculate but i don't really see basis to be worried apart a matter of perception and speculation.. like you said earlier we dont know. but what we know doesn't indicate that this movie in bad hands. after that it's a matter of personnal appreciation (speaking about Miller for you, and for me if tomorow i read the Mulroney and doesn't like their work )

 

[Maze]

I think in Miller's case though, he has come out with revolutionary films like Mad Max and Happy Feet along with small but poignant films such as Lorenzo's Oil. Quality over quantiy is what your point is I believe. So I agree with that.

In regarsd to the Mulroney's, industry chatter suggests the script was done well, so they obviously are considered good writers I guess.

Ok ignore my previous post , i wrote it before reading that one. we are in agreement

 

[Showtime]

I'm not sure to understand what you are talking about there showime : i have evidence in the work of Miller that imo he is good for Jla.

That is what I'm saying though. You can look at Miller's work, and although it isn't eleventeen million projects, they are quiet projects that made an impact. So as I said, I am agreeing with you on this. Quality over Quantity.

there is not comparaison with the mulroney. i don't know their work. the fact is one when people say that they don't have a background in comics. it seem that it isn't true. 2 when people say that they" haven't done nothing " It seem that it isn't true either.

3 their work has been noticed almost each time. after that everybody can be worried , we can speculate but i don't really see basis to be worried apart a matter of perception and speculation.. like you said earlier we dont know. but what we know doesn't indicate that this movie in bad hands. after that it'es a matter of personnal appreciation (speaking about Miller for you, and for me if tomorow i read the Mulroney and doesn't like their work )

That is what I mean, you can't apply the same background as evidence the Mulroney's, we can only go by their short resume of work and industry chatter about JLA.

I am not saying the project is going to be bad, or that the project is going to be good. I just want to see what the consensus is on Miller being right for this project based on what we know and what we know of Miller's previous work. We can't play the same game with the Mulroneys.

 

[Orin]

I think all directors at that level have some degree of talent for the most part. The question is Miller the best guy to helm JLA? He doesn't have to be the most heralded director of all time, but is he the best option for Justice League?

Why is this the question? We pretty much all agree that Miller is a talanted director and the fact is that he's the one who's supposed to do this movie. We won't know for sure if he's the right guy for the job or not, till we've seen what he's done. Same thing goes for every other director. It's not like there's someone who already delivered something, that assures us he will make the perfect JLA movie, while Miller won't. I just don't get all the discussions about the need for Miller to be replaced. Like i said before, i think it's just fanboy crap to not be open for someones vision, just becuase there aren't any projects in his past that make me think i can appraise what's this vision is going to be...

I am not saying the project is going to be bad, or that the project is going to be good. I just want to see what the consensus is on Miller being right for this project based on what we know and what we know of Miller's previous work. We can't play the same game with the Mulroneys.

I don't think there is anything that will tell us if a good director right for a certain project or not, no matter what he did before. Singer did great comic book movies before Superman, but SR wasn't all that great. So is Miller right for JLA? We don't know! But we know that, no matter what he worked with before, he didn't turn it into crap. So that gives me confidence. Does that make him the best choice for the Justice League? Of course not. But the only thing that would show us who's the best man for that movie would be if we'd have every possible director do a version of it. Ridicouls? Yeah! But so are all this discussions. I mean, it's fine if people are posting their favorite directors for this project and all that, but stuff like "If we want a good movie instead of a big piece of crap, Miller HAS to be replaced by..." IMO just isn't necessary.

 

[Maze]

That is what I'm saying though. You can look at Miller's work, and although it isn't eleventeen million projects, they are quiet projects that made an impact. So as I said, I am agreeing with you on this. Quality over Quantity.



That is what I mean, you can't apply the same background as evidence the Mulroney's, we can only go by their short resume of work and industry chatter about JLA.

I am not saying the project is going to be bad, or that the project is going to be good. I just want to see what the consensus is on Miller being right for this project based on what we know and what we know of Miller's previous work. We can't play the same game with the Mulroneys.

i answered just before reading your previous post

Anyways to clear any possible confusion : i'm not here to be Miller herald, i will not get any money at the end of the month; and i don't have the need to defend his work, i just wan't to say imo you have no reasons to be so worried. (but "i've been wrong before" ) t:

now i had already made a lengty post about why i feel Miller is right for that movie.so unless some wan't to read it , and i will retrieve it i will let people argue about it

 

[thegameq]

and Mad Max, The Road Warrior. Witches of Eastwick, Lorenzo's Oil (brilliant). Funny how you only bring up the not so good film he made.

Miller's no slouch but come on, honestly, they couldn't get any of the major players to direct this? This film has Jackson, Spielberg, etc. written all over it. If this is going to be a huge epic fantasy film I don't see how Miller could be chosen over the usual big name directors. Of course if it came down to availability--which it probably did, then I guess Miller may have been the best one available.