Sequels If there was a reboot...

[TKing]

Who would you want at the helm? Would you want Singer for a restart? Or a completely new face to the franchise?

 

[DrChronic]

Who would you want at the helm? Would you want Singer for a restart? Or a completely new face to the franchise?

Well to reboot i wouldnt use the current directors. Not that i didnt enjoy there verson, i would rather see them continue it. But if i went in a different direction i would be tempted to get Kevin Smith Direct. Although he is more of a spiderman kind of guy. Would have some of the writers of Doctor Who write the movie.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

No more sequels. Please.

If there's a reboot, go for a new everything. Singer likes melodrama too much.

I know X-men is essentially a soap opera with mutant fights in-between, but still... Or mutant fights with soap-ish bits in-between, whatever. But still...

Even then I'd be more worried about the script than actual director, really.

Oh, and for crying out loud, if the writers hate or couldn't be bothered to care for a character, PLEASE let him/her out the movies rather than piss off every f****n fan.

 

[emmymae]

Greetings,
I'm new. How about Christopher Nolan as director if he's not busy on one of the Batman films? I saw Batman Begins and loved it and I'm an X-Fan. I can't really say what they should do for a reboot of the movies, but I have a few ideas. They have to put Gambit in the movies; there was no excuse not to have him. And please, can we have Rogue the way she is and not as some weak, bitter pill. I also want Storm as the leader she is. My idea for the plot is to introduce Mr. Sinister and the Legacy Virus. I was thinking that Gambit would meet Rogue on the street, after she has run away from the mansion, and cheer her up and she in turn brings him back to the mansion. Or, going along with Gambit's introduction in the comic book, have him save Storm and she brings him back to the mansion.

Overall, they should ground the story in an actual X-Men plot and not bits and pieces and characters formed together to make a halfway familiar story. The X-Men movies need creativity. It's not to say the movies were awful, there were parts that I liked, but I was partly disappointed.:meow:

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Greetings,
I'm new. How about Christopher Nolan as director if he's not busy on one of the Batman films? I saw Batman Begins and loved it and I'm an X-Fan. I can't really say what they should do for a reboot of the movies, but I have a few ideas. They have to put Gambit in the movies; there was no excuse not to have him. And please, can we have Rogue the way she is and not as some weak, bitter pill. I also want Storm as the leader she is. My idea for the plot is to introduce Mr. Sinister and the Legacy Virus. I was thinking that Gambit would meet Rogue on the street, after she has run away from the mansion, and cheer her up and she in turn brings him back to the mansion. Or, going along with Gambit's introduction in the comic book, have him save Storm and she brings him back to the mansion.

Overall, they should ground the story in an actual X-Men plot and not bits and pieces and characters formed together to make a halfway familiar story. The X-Men movies need creativity. It's not to say the movies were awful, there were parts that I liked, but I was partly disappointed.:meow:

Greetings and welcome to the Hype.

Nolan is a great and talented director and writer. However, I believe many will agree that he's more suited for films like Batman, Insomnia, The Prestige, and so forth.

I believe that since Batman has always been his pet project he wouldn't do an X-Men story.

If a restart happens I say either James Cameron, Ridley Scott, Peter Jackson, or maybe John Woo at the helm. I wouldn't let any of them pen the script though. A known comic book fan who is a great writer should create the script along with one of them directing it.

John Woo is great with action and all, but his films are not really known for emotional storylines and characters. So Cameron, Scott, or Jackson would be the ideal directors for a restart if it happens in the future. I really found your ideas for a new X-Men film to be very interesting and could very well work if the concept is in the right hands and in the right studio.

I'm sure you'll agree that Rogue's character was going through some interesting developments and was shown to be getting more confident, less insecure, and stronger in her abilities rather than staying weak and scared. For an X-Men restart I say bring back Xavier, Cyclops, Beast, Angel, Colossus, Iceman, Rogue, and Jean Grey. I agree that introducing Mr. Sinister for a film is a very logic idea that would present some interesting storylines involving his obsession with cloning mutants and showcasing his scientific genius mind involving the prospect of cloning.

Plus a new villain is definitely needed in order to add a breath of fresh air.

 

[Heretic]

Yeah, a breath of fresh air...and of course you want all the good guys brought back, including the dead ones.

This franchise doesnt need a reboot...the trilogy is over...just start a new trilogy with most of the same characters...and if Peter Jackson would direct it then all the better.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Yeah, a breath of fresh air...and of course you want all the good guys brought back, including the dead ones.

This franchise doesnt need a reboot...the trilogy is over...just start a new trilogy with most of the same characters...and if Peter Jackson would direct it then all the better.

Funny how you didn't address the question I asked you. Scared to answer it?

You can easily bring back Cyclops, Rogue, Magneto, and Mystique without it being farfetched and silly. Xavier, on the other hand can be a bit tricky as the whole long lost twin brother could come off stupid as well.

The franchise either needs to get rebooted or have a sequel with Cyclops, Rogue, Angel, Beast, Iceman, Colossus, and Kitty returning along with the introduction of characters such as Gambit, Bishop, and possibly Cable to join the X-Men as well.

The stories have a lot of potential my friend; anyone who denies the potential simply doesn't understand the power these stories have in terms of their concept.

Get the rights away from Fox first before moving forward with any other additional plans to continue the stories of the characters. Just so you know, Marsden himself has already said the events of X3 has left it open for him to return.

 

[thegameq]

1. If possible get the rights away from Fox. They clearly have no good intentions for this franchise, I doubt if they ever really did. Their intentions were clearly to never do a real X-men movie but to test the waters and minimize any possible losses. You can call it business--and you'd be right. I call it cowardice.

2. Go the Sam Raimi, Peter jackson route. YOU MUST FIND DIRECTORS THAT UNDERSTAND THE SOURCE MATERIAL--THEY MUST BE FANS THEMSELVES OR YOU'LL WIND UP WITH HALF-ASSED, EMPTY INTERPRETATIONS. I know finding directors that are comicbook fans can't be that hard--especially amongst the more artistic directors usually associated with fantasy or scifi films. You can see the comicbook influence in some of their work/films. Convincing them to take on such a daunting project might be the real problem.

3. Comicbooks are works of art (DUH!!!). MATCH THE DIRECTOR TO THE ART!! Stop expecting ho-hum directors to churn out visual masterpieces, it ain't gonna happen! Comicbooks are a visual, aristic medium--the films should be to.

4. Just do the damn comicbook! Don't start getting cute or ego tripping. The same stories and characterizations that make the comicbooks popular, PUT IT IN THE MOVIES! Don't half-ass the characters and story. A story about prejudice, bias mixed in with believable, likable characters and a fantasy, scifi-ish plot. Nuff said. STOP TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL! JUST DO THE DAMN COMICBOOKS!

5. The X-men stories are long, epic and varied--get ahold of some writers capable of conveying this. Plan for a trilogy or more. X-men stories seldomly wrap-up in one comicbook, the movie should follow suit.

6. One of the largest excuses I've constantly heard droning on these boards and others is that you can't give enough screen time to every character. The answer to this dilemma is as old as the hills. It's been used in books and film for years and is a simple remedy. In fact the writers for X-men comicbooks have used it for years. It's a no-brainer. Split the cast. You have two separate events or story arcs that converge either in the middle or towards the end for a climax. In the case of the X-men, depending on the length of the story arc, it's usually towards the end for the climax or showdown. I'd like to see the stories handled similarly to either LOTR or SW in which the characters are off on their own separate tasks or events that are a part of the bigger tale being told, converging in the end of the film, departing or splitting up again if necessary to continue the tale. You simply cannot cram all the charcters together, it doesn't work in the comics, it won't work on film. This technique more importantly will also allow the deep need for character developement so lacking in the current X-franchise.

There's so much more I can't see or think straight.......seething with the way the x-men were treated......foolish suits....................arggghhh!. Losing control........can't lose control!!.................


RRRRRRRRAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!................

 

[emmymae]

Amen to that. You summed it up perfectly. There was definitely a lot of X-Men missing in the X-Men movie. The franchise needs a revamp and a director who is a true artist able to convey the feel of the comics. Your idea for different characters having their own separate part of the story and then coming together for the conclusion is excellent. Right on. Are any of you guys in the movie business? I am an aspiring actress and writer and I went to school in LA so I know a teeny bit about the industry. Just curious.:meow:

 

[blind_fury]

James Cameron

the original x-men team: Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Iceman, Beast, and Angel

spandex similiar to the Fantastic Four sequel.

 

[Silvermoth]

Joss Whedon

1. Believes in characterisation over dumb action but also gives his movies action.

2. Loves and respects the X-men. Won't screw them over just to get money or prestige. He would be on par with Raimi and Nolan in terms of loving their comic book heroes and doing right with them.

3. Is a hit with fanboys

4. Is also a hit with the greater audience.

5. He's not Ratner

 

[Xmenfan527]

i was just watch the smoke'n aces trailer and it looked pretty good maybe Joe Carnahan colud possible do something wit the xmen

 

[otrock]

I think Peter Jackson could do well with the X-men stories, but they have to make sure he doesn't go overboard with visuals to convey the story. I loved the Lord of the Rings movies, but they were extremely long. I also think that King Kong had more than was necessary.

Another great mind to do the X-men was already mentioned. Kevin Smith is a comic book fan from way back. He has actually written some of the books. Granted he is mostly linked to Spider-man and Daredevil, but he would do this justice. He would make sure that the X-men were given the respect they deserved as being one of the biggest comic titles of all time.

 

[Abaddon]

Someone who's familiar with the mythology and history of the characters, and who is interested in bringing realism and practically into an interpretation of the film that doesn't betray that.

 

[thegameq]

Amen to that. You summed it up perfectly. There was definitely a lot of X-Men missing in the X-Men movie. The franchise needs a revamp and a director who is a true artist able to convey the feel of the comics. Your idea for different characters having their own separate part of the story and then coming together for the conclusion is excellent. Right on. Are any of you guys in the movie business? I am an aspiring actress and writer and I went to school in LA so I know a teeny bit about the industry. Just curious.:meow:

Thank you, although some of the stuff I pointed out should've been a no-brainer to the people supposedly in the know with these films. Especially Marvel I would think.

 

[thegameq]

I think Peter Jackson could do well with the X-men stories, but they have to make sure he doesn't go overboard with visuals to convey the story. I loved the Lord of the Rings movies, but they were extremely long. I also think that King Kong had more than was necessary.

Another great mind to do the X-men was already mentioned. Kevin Smith is a comic book fan from way back. He has actually written some of the books. Granted he is mostly linked to Spider-man and Daredevil, but he would do this justice. He would make sure that the X-men were given the respect they deserved as being one of the biggest comic titles of all time.

I would think Whedon and Smith are more likely choices by association and familiarity. Raimi, Jackson, Scott, Cameron, etc. are the ultimate wish list.

I'm really interested to see how Ghost Rider and FF2 turn out. Mark Steven Johnson seems to really know his Ghost Rider comics. Factor in Columbia and they are more than likely following the formula set forth by the SM films. The FF I'm not sure about. Story seems to have a grip on the family aspect of the FF, but he seem caught between doing a comicbook movie and trying to please Fox. Rise of the SS has incredible potential with the SS and Galactus and all, but............how far is Fox willing to go......?

Who knows, if their films turn out to be great they could be counted amongst the few directors who could possibly do the X-men (and maybe other comic to film translations) justice.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Joss Whedon
5. He's not Ratner

rotflmao.

 

[Goddessreicho]

Joss Whedon

1. Believes in characterisation over dumb action but also gives his movies action.

2. Loves and respects the X-men. Won't screw them over just to get money or prestige. He would be on par with Raimi and Nolan in terms of loving their comic book heroes and doing right with them.

3. Is a hit with fanboys

4. Is also a hit with the greater audience.

5. He's not Ratner

HELLS NO! Whedon penned X1. Yulp. That's enough to make me want to burn the hair on top my head. The whole "Do you know what happenes when..." was his brain child.

Look at Astonishing, sure the dialog is witty, but the plot is very much been-there done-that.

The whole depowered/badass Scott...good that that never happened to anyone else before, like Storm in the 80's.

Kick ass Kitty isn't a Buffy Clone at all

Emma = Cordelia

Common, there's a world beyond Whedon. I promise you that. Yes, Firefly/Serenity didn't suck alot, but there's more. Besides as I said, Joss had his hand at movie-verse X-men and serverly blew it.

 

[Angamb]

I don't want a reboot, at least in 10 years. I preffer two more sequels, and then, if they want, a reboot. This x-men saga needs to continue. And if they do a reboot one day, Whedon would be interesting, I have more confidence in him now than with Ratner. Singer again? why? If there is a reboot, should be other director, and a good one, of course, one of the main directors of the cinema actually, or who knows, an unknow until now, but that could appear in the next years, and become in a respectfull director.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

HELLS NO! Whedon penned X1. Yulp. That's enough to make me want to burn the hair on top my head. The whole "Do you know what happenes when..." was his brain child.

Look at Astonishing, sure the dialog is witty, but the plot is very much been-there done-that.

I'm pretty sure I said that very thing in the Astonshing thread. He's way better at dialogue/characterization and creating universes than crafting actual stories. Not that said stories are horrendous or anything. Just really overrated.

And speaking of crafting stories (or at least giving writers the green light), I still haven't forgotten about Connor and Cordelia. *shudders*

Never cared much for Buffy (the teen-get-to-save-the-world angle just creeps me out), so I sadly enough can't use any of its material as an argument... Oh well.

The whole depowered/badass Scott...good that that never happened to anyone else before, like Storm in the 80's.

Posted two lenghty posts this morning regarding the possibility that Cyke playing mind games with Emma and Nova (taking a dive, being conscious the whole arc, rallying the team right under two of the world's strongest psychics' noses and figuring Emma out, hello!!??) might explain why he woke up from his coma during the last arc.

I also said that we'd probably get some sort of lame "it's all about the powwwaaaaa!!!" explanation rather than have Cyke using his brains for a change during Whedon's run .

Kick ass Kitty isn't a Buffy Clone at all

I usually back up said observation with "Joss has a ***** for Kitty" jokes. And then I go on about how her owning Frost in issue 16 was preposterous. Right. Cause Frost wouldn't smell the angry kid who hates her with a passion from a while away. Huh huh.

And there's just something wrong having Kitty of all people mimicking Wolvie's comeback during the original hellfire arc. Just.. meh.

Emma = Cordelia

On some level, sure.

Common, there's a world beyond Whedon. I promise you that. Yes, Firefly/Serenity didn't suck alot, but there's more. Besides as I said, Joss had his hand at movie-verse X-men and serverly blew it.

Eh.

 

[Goddessreicho]

I'm pretty sure I said that very thing in the Astonshing thread. He's way better at dialogue/characterization and creating universes than crafting actual stories. Not that said stories are horrendous or anything. Just really overrated.

And speaking of crafting stories (or at least giving writers the green light), I still haven't forgotten about Connor and Cordelia. *shudders*

Never cared much for Buffy (the teen-get-to-save-the-world angle just creeps me out), so I sadly enough can't use any of its material as an argument... Oh well.



Posted two lenghty posts this morning regarding the possibility that Cyke playing mind games with Emma and Nova (taking a dive, being conscious the whole arc, rallying the team right under two of the world's strongest psychics' noses and figuring Emma out, hello!!??) might explain why he woke up from his coma during the last arc.

I also said that we'd probably get some sort of lame "it's all about the powwwaaaaa!!!" explanation rather than have Cyke using his brains for a change during Whedon's run .



I usually back up said observation with "Joss has a ***** for Kitty" jokes. And then I go on about how her owning Frost in issue 16 was preposterous. Right. Cause Frost wouldn't smell the angry kid who hates her with a passion from a while away. Huh huh.

And there's just something wrong having Kitty of all people mimicking Wolvie's comeback during the original hellfire arc. Just.. meh.



On some level, sure.



Eh.

Oops, I havent been in the Astonishing Thread in a while, sorry bout that sweetcheeks.

But, I'm still a blushing fan of yours anywaze.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Oops, I havent been in the Astonishing Thread in a while, sorry bout that sweetcheeks.

But, I'm still a blushing fan of yours anywaze.

Awww.

Meh, don't sweat about the Astonishing thingy. Wasn't trying to correct ya, really.

Just whole-heartedly agreeing and pointing out that it wasn't a mere reaction to your post. We just hadn't actually tackled that issue before and it just so happens it's one more issue we do agree on. ')

 

[Heretic]

Funny how you didn't address the question I asked you. Scared to answer it?

In the post that I ws responding to you did not type a single question mark.

No question was asked...so I suppose i can't be scared of answering anything...

Try again.

 

[emmymae]

It's a strange feeling seeing the movies after years of imagining what they would be like. From the moment I picked up the comic book when I was nearly 12, I have imagined what the X-Men movies would be like. Of course it was a Romy centered movie in my mind. And now that I've seen all the movies, I have the feeling of 'that's it? that's what I was waiting for?' The movies really lacked the magic and the romance I found in the X-Men, not to mention the lack of Gambit and a majorly watered-down version of Rogue. And then of course there are other things done wrong that we all have already mentioned.

And Blind Fury, no spandex please, that wouldn't have translated well. I read an article about creating super hero costumes for the movies and the costume designer for X-Men said that she felt leather outfits were appropriate for them because they need protection, even though they wear tights in the comic.

 

[X-Maniac]

It's a strange feeling seeing the movies after years of imagining what they would be like. From the moment I picked up the comic book when I was nearly 12, I have imagined what the X-Men movies would be like. Of course it was a Romy centered movie in my mind. And now that I've seen all the movies, I have the feeling of 'that's it? that's what I was waiting for?' The movies really lacked the magic and the romance I found in the X-Men, not to mention the lack of Gambit and a majorly watered-down version of Rogue. And then of course there are other things done wrong that we all have already mentioned.

And Blind Fury, no spandex please, that wouldn't have translated well. I read an article about creating super hero costumes for the movies and the costume designer for X-Men said that she felt leather outfits were appropriate for them because they need protection, even though they wear tights in the comic.

One positive thing about X3 is that it was more adventurous with the costumes. We saw Callisto, Arclight, Juggernaut wearing non-normal clothes in broad daylight, such as when they went to Jean's house. Singer would have had things happen in darkness, he's terrified of bright colours and daylight! (Just look at Superman Returns!). Also, the events that took place in X3 led to greater acceptance of the X-Men (look at all the kids going to Xavier's school at the end) so the X-Men would be able to be more daring and colourful with their costumes now they've 'outed' themselves.

So, any future movie can be a little more adventurous with the costumes...