Sequels If they used The Green Goblin in the sequels, he should look like this....

[Ajendo]

Looks like a homo version of mumra from thundercats!

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

Looks like a homo version of mumra from thundercats!

if you are going to make homosexual jokes, you should really have called him 'bumra'.

 

[Alchemyst]

Ok, this is a good point, *but* the Goblin is crazy in so many ways, I would not mind sacrificing this aspect of his craziness for a cool monster visage like the one in the 616 books.

and Ajendo, i am not wanting the Goblin to be a mutated creature, just that his face mutates into having Goblin like features, so we can have a look like the 616 books onscreen.

But, if they can come up with a mask that looks as good and as versatile and face revealing as face make-up, then I am all for sticking to the 616 Goblin aspects.

I think by having his face mutate would raise too many questions as to why the rest of him doesn't mutate. Alot of Goblin's best moments are from the 616 universe, and I think it adds more mystery to Osborn's character by keeping the Green Goblin persona a mindstate and his actual appearance a costume. Some might say his 616 appearance looks a bit goofy, but given the right materials and if they did go with a darker tone, he could actually look quite sinister.

Looks like somebody pulled the ol' switch-a-roo on that stuff that creates Goblin

 

[Ajendo]

if you are going to make homosexual jokes, you should really have called him 'bumra'.

It wasn't a joke

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

It wasn't a joke

Ok, your attempt at humour then.

 

[Venom'sDad]

It is blatantly obvious to me, many of you have not read or is as familiar with the Stan Lee era comics; otherwise some of you wouldn't say the ridiculous statements that tend to support not only that ultimate bs, but some of the **** written in other trades.

Turning Norman into a beast takes away from the genius and threat that he is. There is a perfect reason WHY...he dons the mask; and I tried to explain that to the least knowledgeable. So many missed it. Congrats to those who understood.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

It is blatantly obvious to me, many of you have not read or is as familiar with the Stan Lee era comics; otherwise some of you wouldn't say the ridiculous statements that tend to support not only that ultimate bs, but some of the **** written in other trades.

Turning Norman into a beast takes away from the genius and threat that he is. There is a perfect reason WHY...he dons the mask; and I tried to explain that to the least knowledgeable. So many missed it. Congrats to those who understood.

Just one thing before you retire to your study to have a smoke on your bubble pipe Professor Patronising...this is exactly what people said about the Joker not being perma-white in TDK when it was announced he would just be a guy in make-up, and the character worked just fine without it. Same deal here.

 

[Alchemyst]

My thing is this, it would be to similar too the Lizard if Osborn transformed into the Goblin. I think it's best if his origin is set apart by having his lab accident affect him mentally and over the course of the film, you began to see him become more and more deranged. I honestly think that someone who looks normal to the human eye but also hides a semi-monstrous demeanor would be creepy to the audience, if it was executed perfectly.

 

[Oscorp]

Thebumwhowalks I'm sorry but you should be glad that some guys even bother arguing with you because seriously, most of your points stink here to be honest.

 

[TheSlag]

My thing is this, it would be to similar too the Lizard if Osborn transformed into the Goblin. I think it's best if his origin is set apart by having his lab accident affect him mentally and over the course of the film, you began to see him become more and more deranged. I honestly think that someone who looks normal to the human eye but also hides a semi-monstrous demeanor would be creepy to the audience, if it was executed perfectly.

Exactly.

Add to that, the Lizard is a sympathetic villian, partially due to the transformation (even though he brought it on himself). And this is why the Lizard works better IMO (as non intelligent or NOT the mastermind Lizard that is trying to turn all humans into reptiles). As a beast/monster, he is acting more and more on the primal level, losing more and more of the human aspect as more of the beast takes over. Losing the human aspect of caring (about his family, slowly losing his family)... it all works for a sympathetic villain.

If the Goblin transforms, that aspect comes into play some unless you have him transform on... transform off. And then it boils down to the more sinister scary villain is the one that is slipping off the deep edge and knows it, and enjoys it. As opposed to any Jekyll and Hyde/Fly Storyline with Osborn.

The Goblin works better as a persona, not a transformation. JUST GIVE US an actual SCARY/Sinister/Gothic/Crap your pants LOOK this time!!! PUH-LEESEEEE!!!!

 

[TheSlag]

I want a mask, makeup, or combination that evokes emotions from the audience but still allows the actor to emote emotions too.

The costume, I want something more scary/gothic/primal than the kid friendly Iron clad Power Ranger costume they gave us. The Goblin is supposed to evoke FEAR, not laughter (GG1) or CowwaBunnga Dood!! (GG2.. Harry.. aka.. Sufer Doood).

 

[socool]

I want Norman to transform but not to the lengths of Ultimate. Like...

His teeth sharpen, chin lengthens, eyes yellow, skin turns green and scaly, claws grow, ears develop.

Stop it there. The rest can be clothes, but I never liked the full costume idea.

 

[Spider-Who?]

Norman Osborn (imo) needs to be the Hannibal Lector of the superhero genre. Being a rich scientist, he need's that "class" and sophistication. But we also need to feel that deranged psychopath is itching to unleash itself just below the surface. Having him mutate not only dilutes that intensity and suspense of the character, but also makes for an excuse for his characterization to be weak (ie: Conners is only threatening and technically "The Lizard" when he mutates, where as Norman is ALWAYS the Goblin).

 

[socool]

Norman Osborn (imo) needs to be the Hannibal Lector of the superhero genre. Being a rich scientist, he need's that "class" and sophistication. But we also need to feel that deranged psychopath is itching to unleash itself just below the surface. Having him mutate not only dilutes that intensity and suspense of the character, but also makes for an excuse for his characterization to be weak (ie: Conners is only threatening and technically "The Lizard" when he mutates).

Well, maybe he could control when he mutated...or...I dunno. I just hate the full costume.

 

[Alchemyst]

I want Norman to transform but not to the lengths of Ultimate. Like...

His teeth sharpen, chin lengthens, eyes yellow, skin turns green and scaly, claws grow, ears develop.

Stop it there. The rest can be clothes, but I never liked the full costume idea.

I'm not too sure about that, one thing you don't want to have over the course of Spider-Man films is every villain having just about the same origin. Like I said earlier, his "transformation" should be mentally, I see Osborn as always being somewhat stern and arrogant, and once he becomes the Goblin, the arrogance turns psychotic to a point where he would kill those closest to him. The Goblin should be portrayed as pure hatred, no redeeming qualities that connects Osborn to his humanity. The audience should be like "those chemicals really ****ed his head up, he needs to die." instead of feeling sorry for his situation and hope that there's a way they could reverse the effects. I get the feeling that's the route they're taking with the Lizard

 

[socool]

I'm not too sure about that, one thing you don't want to have over the course of Spider-Man films is every villain having just about the same origin. Like I said earlier, his "transformation" should be mentally, I see Osborn as always being somewhat stern and arrogant, and once he becomes the Goblin, the arrogance turns psychotic to a point where he would kill those closest to him. The Goblin should be portrayed as pure hatred, no redeeming qualities that connects Osborn to his humanity. The audience should be like "those chemicals really ****ed his head up, he needs to die." instead of feeling sorry for his situation and hope that there's a way they could reverse the effects. I get the feeling that's the route they're taking with the Lizard

That could still happen with my idea. Why does transforming take away character development?

 

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

Again, like I said before, Osborn choosing to take on that look and persona makes him come off a lot crazier and more evil than if he just happens to turn that way as a result of some freak accident or experimentation. That's how it takes away character development, it takes choice out of the equation and eliminates the fact that the Goblin is a reflection of Norman's darkest, innermost self. It could even give the impression that he goes mad, in part, because of his appearance, when in fact, his appearance is due to his madness. It screws with things more than you see.

 

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

Double post...

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

The rest can be clothes, but I never liked the full costume idea.

Why? I always loved the idea of a suit creating a seprate identity. It's much creepier, IMO.

 

[Alchemyst]

That could still happen with my idea. Why does transforming take away character development?

Well if you look at the previous SM films, Osborn's house was decorated with antique statues and stuff. If they carried that aspect over to this new franchise, they could possibly reference that Osborn may be infatuated with things of that time period which would then give reason to why the Goblin looks the way he does (medieval), and also it could be a childhood fear for him, being afraid of the appearance of Goblins (going that route would be similar to Batman Begins, its time his enemies share his dread). Also, when he takes on the Goblin persona, not only could he commit homicidal acts that would be comical to him, but he could also commit some that would fit with medieval times, such as attempting to decapitate Spider-Man or try to hang him with his own webs.

The transformation aspect takes away from him because like i said earlier, it makes him too similar to what would have previously been viewed with the Lizard. You're a fan of Spider-Man, so you know alot about his rogues gallery, but the average moviegoer might not know therefore if you have 2 villains with similar origins, they could easily assume all of Spidey's enemies are products of freak accidents and they just decided to go bad.

 

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

There's nothing medieval about goblins. They didn't exist back then either.

 

[Vile]

While I am rooting for classic Goblin look, I dont agree that a transformation would 'ruin the core' of the character. A madman putting on a costume is no less disturbing than a madman willing to shoot up with an experimental serum.

 

[Alchemyst]

There's nothing medieval about goblins. They didn't exist back then either.

I meant his overall appearance seemed like it was inspired by medieval times, but that's just my perception on how they could approach his appearance in the films

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

While I am rooting for classic Goblin look, I dont agree that a transformation would 'ruin the core' of the character. A madman putting on a costume is no less disturbing than a madman willing to shoot up with an experimental serum.

I disagree. The fact that a man has to literally become a mosnter to be scary works but not with Norman Osborn. The fact that a costume itself creates a whole new identity just is more chilling, IMO, as I said. There's obviously something mentally wrong with somebody who becomes someone else when putting on a costume, which makes it all the more creepy.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

Thebumwhowalks I'm sorry but you should be glad that some guys even bother arguing with you because seriously, most of your points stink here to be honest.

My posts are fine, and they are my opinion. I don't see anything wrong with my opinions on a possible adaptation of Osborne, but I see plenty wrong with your post, which is just a rude, ignorant post from someone I guess does not possess much intelligence.
That's not an insult, it's just a warning to you to buck up your ideas and respect other opinions that differ from your own, or else you will be a mediocre, non-descript snide-y, jealous little nothing for the rest of your boring life.