Sequels If this isn't Mary Jane Watson then I'm blind

[spideyboy_1111]

Dunst is fine...not my first choice but she is fine

u musn't know MJ very well then

 

[Mike]

I dont understand you guys. Why Lohan because she looks the part? Well damn, I should put up a thread on how I want Hilary Duff for Gwen, because she looks the part and is a good girl in real life. Hey we have one pop star disney chick in there lets add another. He lets get that chick from Even Stevens! Or hey, lets get Phil of the future to play Peter Parker. Oh the possibilities are endless. Man Lets get Raven Symone for Doctor Octopus. YAY!!!!

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I dont understand you guys. Why Lohan because she looks the part? Well damn, I should put up a thread on how I want Hilary Duff for Gwen, because she looks the part and is a good girl in real life. Hey we have one pop star disney chick in there lets add another. He lets get that chick from Even Stevens! Or hey, lets get Phil of the future to play Peter Parker. Oh the possibilities are endless. Man Lets get Raven Symone for Doctor Octopus. YAY!!!!

me thinks you know way to many disney related celebs.... notice all but umm lindsay are only disney related movies... Lohan works for other companys... and unlike all the others.. isnt on the disney channel

 

[zanos]

You realize of course that the character of Peter Parker evolves and doesn't just change over night. I would rather have what Slag suggested, seeing how these things in his life affect him and change him.

As far as I can tell it's been two films now and the character has evolved very little. He's still pining after the same girl. Even when he stopped being spider-man you weren't sure if it was because he really wanted to stop or it was because he was losing his powers. If you really analyze the character he's still the same nerdy little worm he was in high school just with superpowers which apparently hasn't given a bit of confidence or a backbone when it comes to dealing with his real life issues.

A drastic jump in the future would either show us that Peter hasn't changed or that he has and we missed it, thus alienating a lot of the fans who felt they were just getting to know the character.

Well if you like the movies the way they are and don't want any changes I see your viewpoint. However I actually want to see real spider-man films which SM1 and 2 were not. I liked SM2 but let's be honest here that was SINO and it will continue to be SINO if changes aren't made. If you want a solution to the recasting issue I've given it to you. If you want change and for PP to be who he is in the comics then I've provided that as well. If you say you want all the things above but you want the story to continue despite having a completely different cast then I would say you need a dose of reality.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

As far as I can tell it's been two films now and the character has evolved very little. He's still pining after the same girl. Even when he stopped being spider-man you weren't sure if it was because he really wanted to stop or it was because he was losing his powers. If you really analyze the character he's still the same nerdy little worm he was in high school just with superpowers which apparently hasn't given a bit of confidence or a backbone when it comes to dealing with his real life issues.



Well if you like the movies the way they are and don't want any changes I see your viewpoint. However I actually want to see real spider-man films which SM1 and 2 were not. I liked SM2 but let's be honest here that was SINO and it will continue to be SINO if changes aren't made. If you want a solution to the recasting issue I've given it to you. If you want change and for PP to be who he is in the comics then I've provided that as well. If you say you want all the things above but you want the story to continue despite having a completely different cast then I would say you need a dose of reality.

quit with the "-ino" crap im getting sick of seeing "-INO this -INO that" it was funny with Catwoman but now its so flucking over used!

 

[Equint77]

quit with the "-ino" crap im getting sick of seeing "-INO this -INO that" it was funny with Catwoman but now its so flucking over used!

LMAO @ SINO... I'm guessing the proper term these sourpusses are looking for is SMINO.

From Man-Spider to SINO... Great!!

 

[fallenAngel]

As far as I can tell it's been two films now and the character has evolved very little. He's still pining after the same girl. Even when he stopped being spider-man you weren't sure if it was because he really wanted to stop or it was because he was losing his powers. If you really analyze the character he's still the same nerdy little worm he was in high school just with superpowers which apparently hasn't given a bit of confidence or a backbone when it comes to dealing with his real life issues.



Well if you like the movies the way they are and don't want any changes I see your viewpoint. However I actually want to see real spider-man films which SM1 and 2 were not. I liked SM2 but let's be honest here that was SINO and it will continue to be SINO if changes aren't made. If you want a solution to the recasting issue I've given it to you. If you want change and for PP to be who he is in the comics then I've provided that as well. If you say you want all the things above but you want the story to continue despite having a completely different cast then I would say you need a dose of reality.

As long as they rap the lose ends at the end of the three movies I won't mind a recast honestly, as long as it's another good cast and director. And I agree a gap might be nice, but I don't think it should be as much as ten years. I personally like the movies and I agree this whole INO crap is annoying. When ever you want to take power away from something you don't call it by it's rightfull name. It's a very imature way to face dissapointment by pretending that it isn't what it's supposed to be by your standards. I agree the movies can be better, but I have faith they will get better. But I don't think throwing the first three movies out just in order to get a fresh start is the right way to do it.

 

[Mike]

Hey spideyboy, I'm getting tired of that INO Bullsh1t too. God its so annoying. You tell one good joke on these forums then you'll be hearing it for years to come. That cino stuff wasnt even funny to begin with. Halle made a mistake like any other human, so I dont understand all the hating.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

its because people simply like to complain... The version of Catwoman they made should have been marketed more as what Halle was doing it for. She took on the role of Catwoman in honor of Ertha Kitt who played a black catwoman a few times on the old 60's show... That was WB's mistake and thats all i see her movie as... Probably one thing that tends to bother me with the comic movies are the ones that are changed drastically.. like catwoman... we read and enjoy these characters because of the comics.. sure the movies should be different stories and situations but should all have the foundation of the comics they are from. If you change that, like catwoman did... you loose basically all fans of the comic. Hell i bet the only people who saw the movie were halle fans. I love halle shes awsome but im not going to pay for a movie that i think is crap

 

[Mike]

Yup, I do agree.

 

[TheSlag]

That's a pipe dream. The studio would never allow it. The real Peter Parker is confident, witty and charming. Movie PP as it currently stands is basically an uber nerd who gets stepped on everywhere he goes. Considering the films have made countless dollars based on this model it's not going to change from one film to another unless there's a drastic change in the story. They're not going to give some director 200 million dollars just he can come in with his own ideas and trash their biggest franchise because he wants to do his own Spider-man movie. That's crazy. Try to imagine if it were the other way around. If Raimi had made PP the way he was in the comics do you honestly think Sony would allow a new director to come in and suddenly make PP some geek who gets pushed around everywhere he goes because that's his vision of what the character should be like? The only way the studio can be tricked into allowing a new director to make any changes is under the pretense that they're not following the same timeline.

1) I never said anything about Peter's confidence, or lack of it, in the post you quoted. And I was not specifically talking about Peter's confidence when I said the next Director could make his version of Spider-Man, working off the legacy from SM1-SM3.

2) To take a confident Peter, and turn him back into a geeky nerd would NOT be a natural progression for a character. Where the opposite... geeky to more confident... would be a natural progression.

3) If the movies go the route I fear, repetition in SM3 along the lines of SM2 and SM1... I think the audience's reaction will reflect it, at the box office. And changes will be coming down the line. Any franchise that does not take chances, and relies on the same formula, will grow stale, and eventually die. ANY... Spider-Man included.

4) I was trying to get the point across, that the trials and tribulations that Peter faced from SM1-SM3 (should of at least), have shaped the man that he becomes, and should be welcomed, not brushed aside by 10 years of elasped movie time.

 

[TheSlag]

As it currently stands we aren't growing up with Pete now. As a matter of fact Pete has done very little growing. He's still basically the same person he was before and after Uncle Ben died. Plus how are we really going to to experience all these things when the entire cast has been replaced? This is the inherit problem with recasting and also attempting to continue the same story. The audience simply won't accept someone else playing Peter Parker especially within the same timeline. The new director will be forced not to make any changes at all just so he can better transition the audience into accepting the new actor in the role. The changes you want to the character would never happen.

1) I agree that we aren't really experiencing the progression of Pete, with the story emphasizing and being bogged down with the MJ/Pete situation... all about ONE GIRL. I'm saying we should be, IF they changed that emphasizing point, and put the emphasis where it should be.

2) The actors change, (recast) does not mean the character's life they portray has to change. It's still the same characters (recast... not redhead to heaven). With new actors (recast), will it be a little harder to believe/accept? Definitely.

3) A director being force to NOT make changes, to ease the transition for a recasting... is a sure fire way to kill a stale franchise.

 

[TheSlag]

You realize of course that the character of Peter Parker evolves and doesn't just change over night. I would rather have what Slag suggested, seeing how these things in his life affect him and change him. A drastic jump in the future would either show us that Peter hasn't changed or that he has and we missed it, thus alienating a lot of the fans who felt they were just getting to know the character.

Thank you. Started wondering if I was holding a foot wrong or something as I was explaining it, since he didn't seem to be getting it. *glad to see someone got it*

 

[TheSlag]

As far as I can tell it's been two films now and the character has evolved very little. He's still pining after the same girl. Even when he stopped being spider-man you weren't sure if it was because he really wanted to stop or it was because he was losing his powers. If you really analyze the character he's still the same nerdy little worm he was in high school just with superpowers which apparently hasn't given a bit of confidence or a backbone when it comes to dealing with his real life issues.



Well if you like the movies the way they are and don't want any changes I see your viewpoint. However I actually want to see real spider-man films which SM1 and 2 were not. I liked SM2 but let's be honest here that was SINO and it will continue to be SINO if changes aren't made. If you want a solution to the recasting issue I've given it to you. If you want change and for PP to be who he is in the comics then I've provided that as well. If you say you want all the things above but you want the story to continue despite having a completely different cast then I would say you need a dose of reality.

As far as I can tell, we (you, me and fallen angel) are all saying basically the same thing. We all want changes. The difference being, you want changes and the 10 year jump into the future. We want changes without the jump into the future, because we want to experience what Pete goes through with the changes, just like we did in the comics. 10 years, and I would feel cheated out of those moments. BUT... we all want.... THE CHANGES.

Regaardless of a 10 year jump or not, a recasting will have effect, and will take some time to get used to.

 

[NinjaCarm]

The next series of movies should be with a entire new cast.... I hope Lindsay Lohan is nowhere near the audtions!

 

[TheSlag]

The next series of movies should be with a entire new cast.... I hope Lindsay Lohan is nowhere near the audtions!

Amen. On the Lohan part at least. Entire cast, I think Aunt May and JJ could and should stick around.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Other then "teenie bopper" wich is an excuse because it's a personal gripe on her status rather then who she really is... I want a real reason people don't want her... she can act... she looks a hell of a lot like MJ.. and personally thats 2 up from what we have with Kirsten... sure she can act... but hmmm you can't really tell that from spidey 2... Slag you could play MJ better then Kirsten can hell i can and were both guys

 

[Mike]

Think man Think! What If I said I wanted Elton John for Doctor Octopus because he looks the part? What if I said I wanted Mariah Carey as Felica Hardy or Hilary Duff? Dude, I really dont want a chick like Lohan who obviously cant sings and consists of annoying us with her singing in most of her movies. Do you want her to do a song for the Spidey soundtrack? Because if she's cast then it's probably going to happen. She may look like a Mary Jane............who is orange, but she's too much into her own genre to the point where she shouldnt be near a Spidey flick. Pick Scarlett Johanssen,Eliza Dushku, that chick that plays lois from Smallville, some one who's movies arent all the same and dont reach just a certain age limit of teeny Boppers. It's not a personal thing man, it's just that her 2005 rat pack image overshadows her movies.

 

[The Navigator]

42.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Think man Think! What If I said I wanted Elton John for Doctor Octopus because he looks the part? What if I said I wanted Mariah Carey as Felica Hardy or Hilary Duff? Dude, I really dont want a chick like Lohan who obviously cant sings and consists of annoying us with her singing in most of her movies. Do you want her to do a song for the Spidey soundtrack? Because if she's cast then it's probably going to happen. She may look like a Mary Jane............who is orange, but she's too much into her own genre to the point where she shouldnt be near a Spidey flick. Pick Scarlett Johanssen,Eliza Dushku, that chick that plays lois from Smallville, some one who's movies arent all the same and dont reach just a certain age limit of teeny Boppers. It's not a personal thing man, it's just that her 2005 rat pack image overshadows her movies.

sorry thats still an immature way to bring on anything its not just her looks and you obviously dont like anything she has to do with wich is your opinion... but her music is actually getting a very good fan following (wich has nothing to do with spider-man so its moronic that it's even brought up. as if shes going to jump out singing for no damn reason as if she has control over the movie) anyways... SHE CAN ACT. and she can act well for someone her age. Kirsten on the other hand.... has gotten suckier and suckier as her movies have went on. She was awsome when she was young... but I hater her in the spider-man movies, hated her in Mona Lisa Smile and hated her in Wimbeldon... It's almost as if shes the exact same person in each movie just put in a different situation... shes gone incredibly down hill and her facial expressions look as if she got hit upside the head by a 2 by 4.

All the Girls you insist on playing MJ for spidey 4 will be TOO OLD! SO QUIT SAYING THEM. And Lois on smallville i can't stand anyway. I want Lohan because she can act the part of MJ better then Kirsten and not only looks More like mary jane then any person ive ever seen in my life... but i think she brings more of the essence of mary jane as well.

you do realise "teeny boppers" dont stay "teeny boppers" and theres still alot of time till 2010... your arogant to think she would still be looked upon as one... hell Britney Spears i wouldnt even consider a Teeny Bopper Image anymore... hell i wouldnt even know what to call her... in my opinion Teeny Boppers are suppose to show the innocent side... the "look but not touch" its when they start getting more sexual and more clevage showing when they lose that.. and personally, other then some of Lohan's movies.. shes alot closer to losing that title then someone like Hilary Duff is.

 

[Mike]

I cant believe you backed up Lohan's albums. Lohan was good in the Parent Trap, and yes she is a good actress but look at her now. I dont hate the girl but she's not who I would picture as Mary Jane even if she does fit the age. It is like saying Britney Spears should play Felicia, it's down right insane that you would think that Lohan should be Mary Jane. She seems like another Tara Reid, man. All her movies seem the same. It's just really ubelievable that you or any Spidey fan wants her as Mary Jane. And why in the Hell do you always mention Kirsten. I dont really care if you diss her or not but saying that she cant act is just plain crazy. She works with what is given to her. I'm looking at her character each time I watch Mary Jane and I think It's not that she doesnt like doing the Spider-Man movies, it's just that she's unhappy with the Mary Jane character. She has said in many interviews that she wanted to do more stuff and less screaming damsel in distress crap, she wants Mary Jane to be stong and to take care of herself. But whoever writes the Mary Jane character keeps on making Mary Jane so undesirable. I could be wrong but as Im watching each Spider-Man movie, I cant blame her.

 

[zanos]

Didn't she almost hit Doc Ock with a piece of wood?

 

[Spidergurl4302]

ya and she told Ock off, i mean kirsten isnt even doing the best with what she has, at least tobey is, i mean her lines are so forced and i think she is making herself look ugly on purpose i mean she said she thought the orange wig looked better

 

[spideyboy_1111]

ya and she told Ock off, i mean kirsten isnt even doing the best with what she has, at least tobey is, i mean her lines are so forced and i think she is making herself look ugly on purpose i mean she said she thought the orange wig looked better

i know i think its her own private sabatoge... i cant stand her and i use to love her... but shes turning into garbage... if you dont believe me watch bring it on, crazy beautiful, virgin suicides and small soldiers and then watch spider-man 2 and wimbeldon and i dare you to tell me shes better now then what she was

 

[Mike]

lol!