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[La_She-Beast]

LMAO!!! You swine

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Leave it if you want, I don't mind. Though people are going to think I seriously said it t:

 

[gambitfire]

LMAO!!! You swine

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Leave it if you want, I don't mind. Though people are going to think I seriously said it t:

Lol thanks i must say i do quite like it.

If ppl talk, i got'yo back gurl!! Don't u worry.

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[LadyVader]

gambitfire, While I have you here... do you know where I can find a decent Gambit wallpaper?

 

[gambitfire]

define decent?

Maybe Deviant art. I had a site but i lost it.

If not then here'ya go.

Made by yours truly in a matter of minutes.


I'll see what site i can find on my favs. and PM it to you, since i have to go to school now.

I havn't slept all night working on my script for one of my original superheroes.

 

[LadyVader]

Something like this:
http://www.lediableblanc.com/wall/gambit/gambit-wall-12.jpg
Which is my current wall. No flashy effects, no bright colors. Just Gambit. Big as life and twice as ugly.

 

[Neptune]

I've been looking for a good Gambit wallpaper too. I want a Jim Lee Gambit wallpaper but those are impossible to find.
O and for the sake of staying on topic: This movie sucks!

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^And lets face it, X3 is a movie that deserves to be criticised IMO. It is a shambles and a travesty to the source material. As a paying customer, i expect more, and from now on will be buying ANY Fox movies on pirate ONLY

 

[Theweepeople]

I'm still trying to figure out why people who enjoyed the film are still posting in these threads?

I stopped wondering about this a while back. I'm convinced that most of the X3 lovers are motivated to continue posting in these threads for the following reasons:

A. They have domineering personalities that render them helpless from agreeing to disagree on issues.

B. They have relatives or friends who work at Fox and are trying to salvage Fox's reputation.

C. They are studio plants.

D. They have stock options with Fox.

F. All of the above.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Hey Wee, do you plan on adding Penn's answers so we can discuss those as well? It would add some variety to the board and it would be very nice to discuss those as well.

Originally he started answering more questions when Penn Kinberg disappeared. Kinberg sent him out to clean up the mess, so it's interesting to read and discuss his answers as well.

 

[Goddessreicho]

^And lets face it, X3 is a movie that deserves to be criticised IMO. It is a shambles and a travesty to the source material. As a paying customer, i expect more, and from now on will be buying ANY Fox movies on pirate ONLY

Oh please, its a common well known fact that all of these X-movies were a terrible farce. There were no to barely any redeemable factors in any of them. Less than ten ok delivered lines is not to be considered great when its surrounded by crappy dialog, stupid characters, worthless characters, terrible plots, jokes that just aren't funny, and an a**load of excuses.

Bland tv-worthy drama to mindless action all wrapped around annoyingly repetitive plots with the majority of the cast rendered pointless or useless is not what anyone paid for.

I know I didn't pay for horrible dialog, crappy and barely recognizable characterizations, watered down washed out cardboard "iconic" characters, machines that destroy the world, a Nightcrawler with no fuzz thats a polar opposite of his counter part (he was teased a joke not well liked and that was between the x-men, a plot device, cowering from people instead of being a people person...), a Cyke and Storm that are worthless and neither had a real chance to LEAD and lets not get into a lack of plot concerning them (being a killer fan of both it was like getting slapped twice), a Jean Grey with barely any personality who seemed...bored, Rogue who was just barely southern and barely any charm. All of these problems where do to writers and directors who hadn't any real familiarity with the source material.

And I hear "realism" one more time... Sure it's great. But that's absolutely no excuse to suck the X-men out of the X-MEN.

People are recognizing the flaws out of The Last Stand, well, I hate to break it to most, but alot of those character flaws were already there. At least TLS made no pretense about that.

Both Singer and Ratner have admitted that neither one knew much about them before taking the helm.

 

[Theweepeople]

Hey Wee, do you plan on adding Penn's answers so we can discuss those as well? It would add some variety to the board and it would be very nice to discuss those as well.

Originally he started answering more questions when Penn Kinberg disappeared. Kinberg sent him out to clean up the mess, so it's interesting to read and discuss his answers as well.

Yes. I hope to do more analyses of Simon Kinberg's Q and A archives soon. I will also give Nightcrawler the links to all the previous ones I've done. I've been running a family business while still working at the normal job I and I'm planning on moving into a condo real soon so I haven't had much time to do anything else.

 

[chaseter]

Yes. I hope to do more analyses of Simon Kinberg's Q and A archives soon. I will also give Nightcrawler the links to all the previous ones I've done. I've been running a family business while still working at the normal job I and I'm planning on moving into a condo real soon so I haven't had much time to do anything else.

We can all analyze the sh** load of lies they feed to us.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

What I find to be most frustrating is trying to educate those who are not familiar with the comics. The average movie audience who knows nothing about the source material wants more Logan, more Logan, more action, and more Logan.

Some of the comments I read on Youtube range from "I'm glad Scott died. He was such a *****. Logan and Jean are true love!"

"Scott was so blind! I'm glad he died, he was a loser."

It's this type of mindset that Fox seem to cater to and sometimes I scratch my head about it, and sometimes I don't, especially when I realize that the majority of the movie goer audience has a very short attention span and will not go out to research or educate themselves about these characters.

It's sad really.

 

[X-Maniac]

Yeah, that bugs me too. A bit selfish, actually, imo. I don't know what happened to you X-Maniac, but I believe you happen to become obsessive.
How about if I type in my sig, "I'm La_She-Beast, the white/blue dove of peace in the X-Forums" ¬¬

I've always been a bit obsessive about X-Men stuff! And I actually happen to think X3 could have been, and should have been, better than it was. (and I thought the same with X1 and X2). My signature is not directed at the haters, it's directed at posts which do not put forward persuasive, reasonable, intelligent arguments. I believe X3's 'problems' are nothing to do with the physics of Wolverine falling through a ceiling or stuff like that.

I really do hope we get more X-movies, with more 'craft' in them (even an extended edition of X3 might help). As for whether Fox has learned anything, need I mention 'Eragon', which has been torn apart by those familiar with the source material.

I believe people's hate of X3 is rather over-the-top at times. The cure was explored much more so than the impact of the mutant registration act was as an issue in X1...when we didn't find out how the X-Men or mutants at large would feel about being kept on a database (not to mention there was already a database existing in X2 on Stryker's computer).

All three movies have their faults. Just read the reviews of all of them on RottenTomatoes or some other similar movie review site compiling professional or public reviews and you will see that there were many criticisms of X2, for instance. A lot of people did not like that movie. And, hypocritically, some of the same people now proclaim X2 as fantastic when reviewing X3.

And look at The Fountain, which many of us here love, but which has been bashed to death by critics. Public user reviews on the MSN site included comments saying it was 'the worst movie of the decade' so we are obviously not in an 'age' where 'high art' is in vogue. A look at prevailing popular culture (Celebrity Big Brother in the UK, American Idol) would confirm this.

I don't know what the answer is. Fox has the rights to X-Men forever. X3 was made that way despite Shuler-Donner (and she was on set, as we can see on the DVD), despite Chris Claremont's involvement, despite Stan Lee's involvement. Zak Penn always sounds so sensible reasonable in interviews and yet he 'allowed' some of the bad things in X3 to happen and possibly even wrote some of them. I sometimes think Singer would have done a better job at knocking the existing X3 script into shape, smoothing out or removing some of the more contentious parts, and probably adding more scenes to complete the character exploration. But I have no idea if this would have worked. Or what would have worked. At the end of the day we are all hoping for improvements to the way the franchise is handled.

EDIT: I amended my sig slightly, so some of you wouldn't feel so sensitive about it!

 

[X-Maniac]

What I find to be most frustrating is trying to educate those who are not familiar with the comics. The average movie audience who knows nothing about the source material wants more Logan, more Logan, more action, and more Logan.

Some of the comments I read on Youtube range from "I'm glad Scott died. He was such a *****. Logan and Jean are true love!"

"Scott was so blind! I'm glad he died, he was a loser."

It's this type of mindset that Fox seem to cater to and sometimes I scratch my head about it, and sometimes I don't, especially when I realize that the majority of the movie goer audience has a very short attention span and will not go out to research or educate themselves about these characters.

It's sad really.

Yes, that is sad. And it's partly down to the writing of the movies, the Hollywoodisation of the source material and Jackman's charismatic acting. Jackman's acting versatility far exceeds that of Marsden who, nice guy though he is, tends to blend into the background a little and is often criticised as 'TV movie' material. Marsden was further handicapped by the Cyclops visor, which does tend to create a rather blank, expressionless, empty, soulless appearance because you cannot see the actor's eyes.

Stronger writing for Cyclops, and stronger acting by Marsden, or another actor to compete against Jackman, would have helped.

 

[La_She-Beast]

lol I know you're obsessive with X-Men (Your name says it all ) I'm refering to the situations when you argue with the posters against you. I also hate brainless comments, but the sig... imo it's extreme... like if you were acting superior. You're the only one who's reasonable here.
Perhaps you're taking the comments way too personally, I don't know. I don't know either if you're referring to the "The movie's ****" 'insults' or the long posts which you consider unintelligent.

 

[X-Maniac]

lol I know you're obsessive with X-Men (Your name says it all ) I'm refering to the situations when you argue with the posters against you. I also hate brainless comments, but the sig... imo it's extreme... like if you were acting superior. You're the only one who's reasonable here.
Perhaps you're taking the comments way too personally, I don't know. I don't know either if you're referring to the "The movie's ****" 'insults' or the long posts which you consider unintelligent.

But surely argument and opinion is part of this place? Others are free to argue their side. I've had that sig for ages, it's odd that you just noticed it. I took the 'X-forums' part out of it especially for you so it can't be taken as a personal attack on anyone here. I enjoy a lively debate but, as you can see from my post higher up, I'm not defending the movie as though my life depended on it, because i wasn't involved with it (regrettably!). It's up to those who did make it to defend themselves.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Stronger writing for Cyclops, and stronger acting by Marsden, or another actor to compete against Jackman, would have helped.

Just stronger writing would've done it, really.

X1 made it a point to present Logan as the poor victim of fate while Scott is the uptight dick who had it all and doesn't deserve any of it.

I doubt ANYONE could've made Cyke come off as the bigger man with the material given.

 

[BMM]

I think one of the best scenes featuring Cyclops is in X-Men in which the little boy smiles at Cyclops at the train station and then Cyclops smiles back.

 

[Mike059jig]

Marsden was further handicapped by the Cyclops visor, which does tend to create a rather blank, expressionless, empty, soulless appearance because you cannot see the actor's eyes.

Thats one bad cyclops interpretation........of the reason I liked the character was because the glasses and the visor....if his visor handicapped the character that bad I wonder why they keep it on him for 40 years.... ....and did what BMM said^

and I wonder what you think of Matt Murdock

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I think one of the best scenes featuring Cyclops is in X-Men in which the little boy smiles at Cyclops at the train station and then Cyclops smiles back.

There's a funny/cute story behind that scene too.

The scene at the train station where the young boy smiles at Cyclops, and Cyclops smiles back was unplanned. The boy was a huge fan of the X-Men, and Cyclops was his favorite. The scene originally called for Cyclops to look at the train schedule, however, according to Bryan Singer, the boy could not stop smiling at James Marsden (the actor playing Cyclops). Finally, during one shot, Marsden just looked back at him and smiled, much to the boy's delight. Bryan Singer liked the idea so much, he kept it in the film, and told the actress playing the boy's mother to react the way she did.

 

[chaseter]

There's a funny/cute story behind that scene too.

The scene at the train station where the young boy smiles at Cyclops, and Cyclops smiles back was unplanned. The boy was a huge fan of the X-Men, and Cyclops was his favorite. The scene originally called for Cyclops to look at the train schedule, however, according to Bryan Singer, the boy could not stop smiling at James Marsden (the actor playing Cyclops). Finally, during one shot, Marsden just looked back at him and smiled, much to the boy's delight. Bryan Singer liked the idea so much, he kept it in the film, and told the actress playing the boy's mother to react the way she did.

It was a great scene and I wish they would have hit more on Cylcop's ability to lead and set examples as a leader for others at the museum in X2. Storm was the one explaining things at the museum and Cyclops was only there to comfort Jean...sad. I really don't want to get into X3 tonight.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

There's a funny/cute story behind that scene too.

The scene at the train station where the young boy smiles at Cyclops, and Cyclops smiles back was unplanned. The boy was a huge fan of the X-Men, and Cyclops was his favorite. The scene originally called for Cyclops to look at the train schedule, however, according to Bryan Singer, the boy could not stop smiling at James Marsden (the actor playing Cyclops). Finally, during one shot, Marsden just looked back at him and smiled, much to the boy's delight. Bryan Singer liked the idea so much, he kept it in the film, and told the actress playing the boy's mother to react the way she did.

OMG. So he actually was originally MEANT to look like an uncaring dick? Jesus...

I mean, the whole point of Cyke's character is that he's a stiff because he cares so damn much.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

It was a great scene and I wish they would have hit more on Cylcop's ability to lead and set examples as a leader for others at the museum in X2. Storm was the one explaining things at the museum and Cyclops was only there to comfort Jean...sad. I really don't want to get into X3 tonight.

Didn't have a problem with him not speaking to the students during said scene, actually.

Loved the scene with Jean, though, since it essentially killed Jott movieverse IMO.

I mean, she spent the last five months possibly (refer to the 'her crush brought back to life in 3 seconds flat' angle) fantasizing about the runt, having to deal with growing powers and she SHUT HIM OUT the whole duration.

The Jott-sceptic in me felt the urge to let out an undignified whoop.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I'm still trying to figure out why people who enjoyed the film are still posting in these threads?

Don't worry, Sunrise, this is one X3 lover who you won't have to worry about seeing post in here anymore.

You all can rip this movie to death amongst yourselves, without wanting to hear any kind of counter arguements all you want. It's obvious by the constant trend of going back to the thread title to try to force a different view out of this thread (and the forum) that you want to be blinded to any viewpoint that you don't share. You want to cover your eyes and ears, screaming "I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" because you can't handle the fact that people actually enjoy this movie. Myself, The Guard, X-Maniac, and the other X3 "lovers" have done nothing to indicate that you are "wrong" for hating this movie. But you have to constantly resort to your thread title to try to make us look like the bad guys, in an attempt to make your side look like the vitctim, and to make us look "wrong".

You can all ***** and moan and groan about Wolverine's velocity going through the ceiling, or bridge lengths, or whatever other absurdities you want to reach for, as much as you want. If that's what you're going to ***** about, then you're not worth my time to debate. I value opinions that actually have logic and perspective and intelligence behind them. *****ing about metal cure darts, bridge lengths, why it didn't crumble, why the Brotherhood didn't get injured, and Wolverine's velocity while being tossed through a ceiling, do not reflect viewpoints based on logic, perspective, or intelligence, and are not viewpoints that I value. Since those are the only viewpoints that are expressed around here anymore, it is obvious that there is nothing left for me to debate. The X3 haters obviously have to grasp at straws now in every vain attempt to make X3 look like some horrible film, and anyone who likes it, some horrible member of the movie going audience that doesn't understand good filmmaking.

I'm tired of the people who hate this film being unable to come up with actual LOGICAL reasons for bashing this film. And I'm not going to let the absurdity of these arguements that gets passed off as "logic" ruin my enjoyment of this film. I got 3 great X-Men films, and that is something that none of you here can take away from me. So instead of hanging around here, tainting an excellent trilogy of my favorite fictional universe, it's probably best that I make my exit from these forums. The bickering is endless. The movie is almost 9 months old now, and the arguements are the same. Nothing is going to change around here, and any continuation of the arguements is pointless by now.

So don't worry, Sunrise, there's now one less X3 lover you have to worry about. Less opposition to your X3 hater love fest. You can all have your fun complaining about your bridge lengths and velocities amongst yourselves all you want with no interruption. Because that's obviously what you all want; no opposing viewpoint. It's made obvious by the constant referring to the thread title in an attempt to get any positive view of this movie out of the threads. You don't want positive viewpoints, and will do all that you can to eliminate it.

Well, this is one viewpoint that you've eliminated.

Luckily, I have my X-Men: The Last Stand DVD, and I can watch my beloved movie anytime I choose. So while you're *****ing about Wolverine's velocity going through a ceiling, I'll be enjoying an epic movie.