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[Theweepeople]

Anyways.

Did anyone ever notice this. Was it brought to the attention of the members here on the hype, because i sure as hell don't remember it.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avi_Arad

Muha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That link only proves what X3 haters have been saying about this abomination of an X-Men film since last May. Now I'm 100% positive that all my complaints in regards to X3 are justifiable. t:

 

[Theweepeople]

Yeah, it was posted. Not many people were happy to hear him say that.

That was posted before? My bad. I'm glad I know about it now. Let me guess. The people who were unhappy to hear him say that were Ratner, Kinberg, Rothman, and Penn for obvious reasons.

 

[Wicked]

Do you know how much experience this guy has? Let alone his new Jessica Simpson video?

How did we ever doubt him?

Nice to see at least one of them can admit to being wrong.

 

[chaseter]

"Idiots. Idiots. Did you see 'Red Dragon'? Did you see that? And you saw 'Family Man', which is totally different, a very emotional story. Then, you have two giant comedies. What are they thinking? This is a great filmmaker. Do you know how much experience this guy has? Let alone his new Jessica Simpson video? This guy knows what he's doing."[1] - said against fans who expressed their dissatisfaction about Brett Ratner being the director of the X-Men 3 movie. After seeing X-men 3 Arad has since apologised for the statement believing he should have listened to the fans all along.

HAHA LMFAO. Hindsight is 20/20 there bud. Thanks Avi, thank you so much for listening to the people that pay your salary...the fans. Thank you for pushing a crappy movie and making me waste my hard earned money. Thanks for aplogizing after I gave my money to you. Fat cat. But kudos for pushing Venom on Raimi!!! HIGH FIVE!

 

[LadyVader]

I care about other characters, but I care SO much more for Wolverine. So what? You come here with all your high morals and love for all the characters of the X-Men universe, but I don´t see you posting like crazy on the other many characters´threads.
I don´t go on "hating" or "denouncing" other characters, as you like to say. Please show me one post where I did that. That I´m much more interested in Wolverine doesn´t mean I hate the others, or doesn´t understand their importance.
Just like danoyse said, I love the comics in a different way than yours. If you don´t accept that, or think the only way of loving comics is your way, well, that´s your problem, really...


Well, it´s easy to say that when your favorite character isn´t the one being bashed here on a daily basis...
Besides, as much as I love Logan, if I was to get upset whenever someone says something mean about him I wouldn´t do anything more with my life than spend my days "defending" Wolverine from bashers...

For the last freakin time. We don't hate the character, merely how he's being used in the detriment of other characters. There's not much we can do about that except complain on this here board with others like us. Why are you so thick about this. Just like you love your Wolverine I love my Gambit, I love my Rogue. Why should YOUR interests take precedent to mine?

We would have absolutely no problem with Wolverine if Marvel would stop shoving him down our throats. In fact he's a pretty cool character. And we would NOT bash him if people like you would respect the majority's opinion around here. There's expressing your opinion and then there's pressing the matter.

 

[La_She-Beast]

"Dr.Watson, the unrevealed mystery is revealed"

LOL!!! Incredible

 

[X-Maniac]

After seeing X-men 3 Arad has since apologised for the statement believing he should have listened to the fans all along

Is there an official source for his apology? This is interesting. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, so I would like to see the source!

Regardless, I wholeheartedly agree they should have listened to fans all along. Even if they were using Brett Ratner as director, those such as Shuler Donner, Arad and Winter had a responsibility to ensure the movie was as perfect as possible.

 

[LadyVader]

With great fanbases comes great responsability.

 

[britrogue]

With great fanbases comes great responsability.

LMAO, that is so true!

 

[flavio_lebeau]

Where is Retroman to confirm if this apology is true? (actually, I think Retro is quite absent these days, ain't he?)

 

[Matt.S99]

he's in the batman forums lol

 

[Loganbabe]

For the last freakin time. We don't hate the character, merely how he's being used in the detriment of other characters. There's not much we can do about that except complain on this here board with others like us. Why are you so thick about this. Just like you love your Wolverine I love my Gambit, I love my Rogue. Why should YOUR interests take precedent to mine?

Do you have this ongoing habit of answering posts that were not directed to you?
My interests are my interests. I´ll defend them as much as I feel like, and by doing so I´m not taking away your rights to defend your own. If you want to write millions of posts of how much Logan is overexposed, go on. And if I feel like offering a different view, that´s exactly what I´ll do.

We would have absolutely no problem with Wolverine if Marvel would stop shoving him down our throats. In fact he's a pretty cool character. And we would NOT bash him if people like you would respect the majority's opinion around here. There's expressing your opinion and then there's pressing the matter.

Now that´s funny. You´re suggesting that I just accept the "majority´s" opinion, that is, shut up, as if I was some lamb which had to be guided and lead.
Sorry, won´t happen. Nice try...

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

-pokes his head around and takes a step back- Didn't we just leave this party? -sighs and steps further back to the main Xforum-

 

[LadyVader]

Now that´s funny. You´re suggesting that I just accept the "majority´s" opinion, that is, shut up, as if I was some lamb which had to be guided and lead.
Sorry, won´t happen. Nice try...

I'm not telling you WHAT to think. I'm just telling you that we GET it. Overexposed does not equal bad. But it is what it is.

 

[CapBeerCino]

Do you have this ongoing habit of answering posts that were not directed to you?

Do we need permission to answer to your posts?

"Would you die for them?"
"Not for them... for you..."
"Save me"
"I love you"

That reminds we (while we're on the "don't like the movie" thread) How lame! Logan was willing to die for Rogue in X-1, then risked his life to save the team in X-2, so where the hell did the "Not for them" come from? (After his inspiring speech about being an X-Man and all?) And the "save me/love you" is the kind of stuff you usually find at FF.net I remeber cringing at the cinema.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I always thought that what made foruns in general interesting was the fact that we could give our own views about the subject at hand, be it comics, the political situation of the world or whatever.
Yes, me, me, me. My opinion. My view. Unless you, like LastSunrise, believe you have THE view, the one and only that matters.

Look, I'm calling a cease-fire after that post because it's painfully obvious I will never get through to you on this one.

I'm talking about the BIG PICTURE. Dispassionate, neutral big picture.

Look, statistically speaking, the pen is not mightier than the sword in the MU.

One doesn't just talk down Apocalypse. Heroes getting their act together by overcoming issues doesn't mean they'll preval against villains who couldn't give less of a f*** about a hero's inner turmoil.

The point is a character's 'innner battle' doesn't mean that much in the big picture unless they're in a - not brought in by plot devices - position to turn the tide of the war. Which, amusingly enough, is pretty much where leaders sit at.

What drawns me to Logan is the tragic/reluctant hero he is, what I find interesting about so many Marvel characters is their inner life and personalities. The wars in the inside.

The whole point - point you keep dodging - is that most heroes' inner battle more often than not won't have that much of an impact on the war-plagued big picture.

Leaders have - inner turmoil or not - higher probabilities to do so by default. That's it. No more, no less.

Poets and bards rule!
And we can have some poet warriors too...
Now, what can you say about Frodo? He wasn´t a warrior at all...Frodo represented the common man, and he had to deal with big questions inside himself which weren´t exactly leading people into real, big, epic battles. LotR is as much about his mission and the battle inside himself as it is about Aragorn commanding an army.

*sigh*

Look, Frodo would've never made it to that blasted mountains had the others not fought on the frontline and distracted the eye of Sauron. Hell, if anything Frodo got LUCKY and/or failed at pretty much every occasion he had to not do so. Not to mention Sam and Gollum either guiding him or saving his sorry a$$ at every corner.

I'm talking about a character's importance without convenient eye-rolling plot devices.

You know, screw this. Frodo's a wuss. Sam was the real hero all along. THERE. t:

And you know what, Frodo's story is just the classic one of an underdog prevailing against all odds while he never should've in a million years. Screw him. t:

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

For the last freakin time. We don't hate the character, merely how he's being used in the detriment of other characters.

Eh.

Oh yeah, and I still don't get why someone *cough* Loganbabe* would get offended as me referring to Logan as an angry samourai. Apparently refering to the character's core as an honorable warrior with issues is an insult and is a disgrace. Or something. t:

Just because we don't write essays detailing the awesomeness that is Logan or know him inside out 100%, doesn't mean we hate him.

Just because we don't want that much - rather forced and OOC, no less - of him doesn't mean we hate him either.

Kinda what we been talking all along.

There's not much we can do about that except complain on this here board with others like us. Why are you so thick about this. Just like you love your Wolverine I love my Gambit, I love my Rogue. Why should YOUR interests take precedent to mine?

So simplistic an argument and yet so strong. You rock, chica. t:

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

That reminds we (while we're on the "don't like the movie" thread) How lame! Logan was willing to die for Rogue in X-1, then risked his life to save the team in X-2, so where the hell did the "Not for them" come from? (After his inspiring speech about being an X-Man and all?) And the "save me/love you" is the kind of stuff you usually find at FF.net I remeber cringing at the cinema.

I actually made comments about how said line made him - MOVIEVERSE, just in case someone uses this as a comicverse bashing reference - somewhat of a despiteful wretch. t:

"Screw the others, me wanna get into firecrotch's pants."

That's pretty much movieverse Wolvie's angle on the whole DP fiasco, it would seem.

 

[gambitfire]

With great fanbases comes great responsability.

That's siggy worthy! t:

 

[gambitfire]

I think it's painfully clear who needs to walk away at this point.

Continuing this is pointless and i think we can all agree.

On a side note, who saw GhostRider? Wait am i off topic?! *runs*

 

[Mike059jig]

^on the RT meter GR had no room to breathe its really low but I'll see it anyway

 

[Loganbabe]

One doesn't just talk down Apocalypse. Heroes getting their act together by overcoming issues doesn't mean they'll preval against villains who couldn't give less of a f*** about a hero's inner turmoil.

The point is a character's 'innner battle' doesn't mean that much in the big picture unless they're in a - not brought in by plot devices - position to turn the tide of the war. Which, amusingly enough, is pretty much where leaders sit at.

The characters´inner battles mean a lot to me.
Whatever. You´re the kind of fan who loves the X-Men battling the "Villain of the Month". It´s not a surprise you hated the movies. You just wanted to see never-ending battles of X-Men against Apocalypse, X-Men against Mr. Sinister, X-Men against Sentinels, Wolverine kicking the butt of all his arch-nemesis while saying stupid one-liners about beer, Joss Whedon style.
I find it amazing that you really believe there´s only a way (your way, it seems) to enjoy the comics. Epic battles. Against big ugly villains. And big ugly green monsters.
You can keep your simplistic vision of art, comics and life in general.
I´ll never get through to you as well. And I´m not really interested in doing it, anyway.

You know, screw this. Frodo's a wuss. Sam was the real hero all along. THERE. t:

And you know what, Frodo's story is just the classic one of an underdog prevailing against all odds while he never should've in a million years. Screw him. t:

Oh, wonderful argument! You don´t know what to say, so "Frodo is a wuss" will be just that, something stupid enough to end all possibilities of an interesting discussion.
I used Frodo as an example, as I could had used Sam, Merry, or any of the silly little hobbits. I don´t find Frodo particulary interesting as a character, but what he represents to the story is interesting. He was the common man, and the common man IS the underdog, sometimes prevailing against the odds, sometimes not.

Oh yeah, and I still don't get why someone *cough* Loganbabe* would get offended as me referring to Logan as an angry samourai. Apparently refering to the character's core as an honorable warrior with issues is an insult and is a disgrace. Or something. t:

Uh?!
When did I say I was offended that you referred to Logan as an "angry samurai"? Check out the last two or three pages, if you please. I really would like to know where I said that.
My memory isn´t that bad, and I seem to remember that the discussion started because you were referring to Logan, post after post, as an "obnoxius runt". Don´t distort things.
Altough it seems that distorting things and putting words in other people´s mouth is really a hobby around here...as much as having the one and only view about certain subjects.

 

[Loganbabe]

Do we need permission to answer to your posts?

No, but I´m starting to think I have to ask for some kind of permission from the "majority" here to have my own opinions...

And the "save me/love you" is the kind of stuff you usually find at FF.net I remeber cringing at the cinema.

That´s also the kind of stuff we find in comics. I thought it was as adorable as the "You and me, Jean...you and me in a blaze of glory", from Grant Morrison´s New X-Men. Lovely.
I´ve read some really great fanfiction at FF.net. But since you only come here to talk about a movie you hated, maybe you can only talk about the bad fics you read. Whatever.

 

[Theweepeople]

I think it's painfully clear who needs to walk away at this point.

Continuing this is pointless and i think we can all agree.

On a side note, who saw GhostRider? Wait am i off topic?! *runs*

I just got back from seeing GhostRider. After seeing this film I think Avi Arad should give up producing any future Marvel comic book movies. Just to give you all a good idea how bad this film was I think Constantine looks like a masterpiece compared to this. The fight scenes were arguably the worst comic book fight scenes I've seen since Batman and Robin. The only good thing I can say about this film is the special effects. Also, the first time when Johnny Blaze becomes Ghost Rider was cool. The rest of the film bored me and most of the acting was pretty bland. I suggest that you all wait for this film to come out on DVD.

It's quite sad but, X3 had better fight scenes than all of the ones in GhostRider. X3's fight scenes looked silly but, at least they were longer than a few seconds. Ghostrider's fight scenes consisted of someone punching him, him punching back, and then GR finishing his enemy off with his metal wip or fire.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I just got back from seeing GhostRider. After seeing this film I think Avi Arad should give up producing any future Marvel comic book movies. Just to give you all a good idea how bad this film was I think Constantine looks like a masterpiece compared to this.

Gaaah. Constantine had some cool moments, but god, it just had to be one of the most goddamned unfocused flicks I've ever seen.

It's quite sad but, X3 had better fight scenes than all of the ones in GhostRider. X3's fight scenes looked silly but, at least they were longer than a few seconds. Ghostrider's fight scenes consisted of someone punching him, him punching back, and then GR finishing his enemy off with his metal wip or fire.

t: t: t:

Well what do you know, X3's battle scene just might not be the worst in recent history.