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When you look at the subject of whether or not God exists from a logical point of view, there is little to no logic behind the existence of God.
The only "proof" of the existence of God is various different documents, such as the Bible, insitutions such as the Church, and these things have been written and created by MAN. You trace it back as far as it can go and you won't find God, you'll just find a guy that believes he is the Messiah telling people to go off and believe in God.
The the old days, they had a much better excuse for buying into the religion fad. What the hell is that big warm yellow thing that rises every day?? What are all those sparkily things in the sky?? How did we end up here?? Those types of questions, and many others, easily answered by saying "God did it".
Now we know better. We know what the Sun is, what the planets are, what the stars are, we can trace their existence back through scientific means. We know roughly what age the planet is. Science says that the Earth is very very old, but if you were to believe the hardcore Christians who refuse to listen to logic, they will tell you the Earth can't be very old at all "cause the bible says so". Once upon a time, Christians would have told you the Earth is the centre of the Universe. Few Christians these days are dumb enough to tell you that. We are just one planet in millions of billions. The universe is very, very, VERY ****ing big, our planet compared to it is tiny. Our existence really is quite insignificant.
Religion in the old days existed for three reasons. One, to explain things because no other explanation was available. Two, because life used to be quite ****ing hard for most people, people died very early, and people needed to believe that there was something better. Three, because religion makes it easy for the powerful to control the masses.
Some people would say that you need religion to tell you right from wrong. These people are truely dilluded. What an unhealthy attitude and thought process. That's the beaf I have with religion, it can be used in a way where people actually dillude themselves. You need someone else to tell you right from wrong??? We are all born with a concience. From a very, very early age we learn right from wrong. And it's not from religion, it's not from our parents. As tiny children, we recognise things that hurts us, and in turn realise that it hurts other people too. We learn from experience and observation what right and wrong is. It's a species survival thing really.
Believing in God is kinda like believing in Santa Clause. In fact, there is no diffference.
What is the difference in believing that some fat guy comes down your chimney and gives you presents, only because your parents say so, and believing that God exists, simply because books dating back a few thousand years say so.
What about the unexplained? Outer body experiences, claims of God speaking directly to you, etc, things of that nature? There is a scientific basis for everything. If something is currently unexplained by science, then one day it will be. The things I mentioned, they all have at least hints of a scientific explanation.
Religion is and always has been about having a leap of faith. You can't believe in God's existence without a leap of faith. And having a leap of faith is the very absence of logical thinking.
Do you know who is really annoying? Really comfortable, middle class suburban Christian kids. At least poor working class folk from the middle ages had a good excuse. Their lives were ****ty, they needed to believe there was something better.
The only "proof" of the existence of God is various different documents, such as the Bible, insitutions such as the Church, and these things have been written and created by MAN. You trace it back as far as it can go and you won't find God, you'll just find a guy that believes he is the Messiah telling people to go off and believe in God.
The the old days, they had a much better excuse for buying into the religion fad. What the hell is that big warm yellow thing that rises every day?? What are all those sparkily things in the sky?? How did we end up here?? Those types of questions, and many others, easily answered by saying "God did it".
Now we know better. We know what the Sun is, what the planets are, what the stars are, we can trace their existence back through scientific means. We know roughly what age the planet is. Science says that the Earth is very very old, but if you were to believe the hardcore Christians who refuse to listen to logic, they will tell you the Earth can't be very old at all "cause the bible says so". Once upon a time, Christians would have told you the Earth is the centre of the Universe. Few Christians these days are dumb enough to tell you that. We are just one planet in millions of billions. The universe is very, very, VERY ****ing big, our planet compared to it is tiny. Our existence really is quite insignificant.
Religion in the old days existed for three reasons. One, to explain things because no other explanation was available. Two, because life used to be quite ****ing hard for most people, people died very early, and people needed to believe that there was something better. Three, because religion makes it easy for the powerful to control the masses.
Some people would say that you need religion to tell you right from wrong. These people are truely dilluded. What an unhealthy attitude and thought process. That's the beaf I have with religion, it can be used in a way where people actually dillude themselves. You need someone else to tell you right from wrong??? We are all born with a concience. From a very, very early age we learn right from wrong. And it's not from religion, it's not from our parents. As tiny children, we recognise things that hurts us, and in turn realise that it hurts other people too. We learn from experience and observation what right and wrong is. It's a species survival thing really.
Believing in God is kinda like believing in Santa Clause. In fact, there is no diffference.
What is the difference in believing that some fat guy comes down your chimney and gives you presents, only because your parents say so, and believing that God exists, simply because books dating back a few thousand years say so.
What about the unexplained? Outer body experiences, claims of God speaking directly to you, etc, things of that nature? There is a scientific basis for everything. If something is currently unexplained by science, then one day it will be. The things I mentioned, they all have at least hints of a scientific explanation.
Religion is and always has been about having a leap of faith. You can't believe in God's existence without a leap of faith. And having a leap of faith is the very absence of logical thinking.
Do you know who is really annoying? Really comfortable, middle class suburban Christian kids. At least poor working class folk from the middle ages had a good excuse. Their lives were ****ty, they needed to believe there was something better.