The Dark Knight Intensity of Fight sequences in TDK!

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

correct.

nolan doesn't seem like a great action star, so it's more about drama.

don't expect to be watching some great 'fight scenes' in anything nolan does.

the so called action in batman begins is enough to verify this

Im glad your so optimisitc without even seeing TDK to know 100%, wow ignorance floods these boards, have some frickin faith.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I liked them too but sometimes they were TOO confusing. They can tone down the closed up part a bit while still making the fights rough and real, and not a dance. However, I do want the fight between Joker and Batman to be shown in a traditional manner, because I want to see how it plays out.


Ps

Didn't you know? He uses an invisibility cape now.

Im being serious though, whats with the cape. I really dont want to believe its invisible, that would be ******ed. I wanna know the facts on this also.

 

[Nathan]

Wasn't part of the reason why the fight scenes were filmed the way they were in Begins was because of the bat suit. The movement looked terrible, because Bale had no flexibility with it, so they tried to hide it with close up and confusing camera work. I thought I read that somewhere. If that was the case, I would imagine the fight scenes being better since he has a more flexible suit.

Even if it's true and was to hide the inflexible suit, I thought it worked great in the movie.

It really made Batman look like a living nightmare, striking and disappearing from the shadows. Barely seeing what you're fighting against strikes more fear into the heart of enemies than a guy who just stands there in a Kung Fu pose and waits for you to come.

 

[Mr. Superhero]

Wasn't part of the reason why the fight scenes were filmed the way they were in Begins was because of the bat suit. The movement looked terrible, because Bale had no flexibility with it, so they tried to hide it with close up and confusing camera work. I thought I read that somewhere. If that was the case, I would imagine the fight scenes being better since he has a more flexible suit.

Never heard that, but it sounds quite credible, in all actuality. It was always quite easy to notice that Bale wasn't having the smoothest of times in the Begins suit. Now that his movement's improved, though, I wouldn't be at all surprised to discover that Nolan has shot the fight scenes in a more distinguishable fashion.

I'm looking quite forward to the fight scenes. I suspect Batman will look like a true ninja, which will come across awesomely on-screen.

 

[superkong 500]

Im being serious though, whats with the cape. I really dont want to believe its invisible, that would be ******ed. I wanna know the facts on this also.

Well if your question is serious then I think bats is fighting i nhong kong in this scene and anyway he has that metal backpack which stores his cape inside that's why you don't see it.

 

[War Party]

I wish I could find the article I read. It was about 2 years ago when I read it, so I don't know if I can find it.

 

[Darknightnomis]

It really made Batman look like a living nightmare, striking and disappearing from the shadows. Barely seeing what you're fighting against strikes more fear into the heart of enemies than a guy who just stands there in a Kung Fu pose and waits for you to come.

I agree.

I never liked that from the Burton and Shcumacher movies were BAtman strikes a pose.

 

[Rikxiepoo]

Well if your question is serious then I think bats is fighting i nhong kong in this scene and anyway he has that metal backpack which stores his cape inside that's why you don't see it.

That would make sense except for the fact that those guns look like M4's and not Chinese weapons, which would mean its SWAT and not Chinese police. I could be wrong tho.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Well if your question is serious then I think bats is fighting i nhong kong in this scene and anyway he has that metal backpack which stores his cape inside that's why you don't see it.

Oh I had no idea, well I may not know much about this because Ive been trying to keep away from too much info, but then whats with the backpack, and why would the cape be hiding in there?

 

[superkong 500]

That would make sense except for the fact that those guns look like M4-Carbines and not Chinese weapons, which would mean its SWAT and not Chinese police.

Well it doesn't matter if he's in HK or gotham the point is he's wearing the backpack or atleast it seems that way.

 

[superkong 500]

Oh I had no idea, well I may not know much about this because Ive been trying to keep away from too much info, but then whats with the backpack, and why would the cape be hiding in there?

Oh okay I get you. Well I don't know why he has the BP but in some other thread(don't remember which) someone posted pics of the 12 inch glider batman and it has the backpack with the cape stored in it. It seems though that he only uses it in a few scenes because every pic we have seen of him in the new suit he has his cape flowing.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Oh okay I get you. Well I don't know why he has the BP but in some other thread(don't remember which) someone posted pics of the 12 inch glider batman and it has the backpack with the cape stored in it. It seems though that he only uses it in a few scenes because every pic we have seen of him in the new suit he has his cape flowing.

ya your totally right, I actually bought that figure, but Im keeping him in the box, so I never even got to look at his back, silly me I shoulda looked lol.

 

[Mr. Superhero]

Oh I had no idea, well I may not know much about this because Ive been trying to keep away from too much info, but then whats with the backpack, and why would the cape be hiding in there?

If the cape is being hidden, then it's obviously to help Bruce's mobility. I mean, who'd want a big, flapping cape in the way when fighting a bunch of cops? I know I certainly wouldn't.

That said, I'm sure most people will moan about how such an idea completely discredits the comics. I'm an avid comic-book reader and I couldn't care less about whether Bruce retracts his cape in fight scenes. I can fully understand why he'd do it.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

If the cape is being hidden, then it's obviously to help Bruce's mobility. I mean, who'd want a big, flapping cape in the way when fighting a bunch of cops? I know I certainly wouldn't.

That said, I'm sure most people will moan about how such an idea completely discredits the comics. I'm an avid comic-book reader and I couldn't care less about whether Bruce retracts his cape in fight scenes. I can fully understand why he'd do it.

I know what you mean and I can agree to a certain degree, but I do think it will look weird with him fighting without the cape, though it does allow quite a bit more mobility especially with the new suit but I mean hes Batman not a bat without wings man, so I hope they dont use the backpack the whole time.

 

[silentflute]

Even if it's true and was to hide the inflexible suit, I thought it worked great in the movie.

It really made Batman look like a living nightmare, striking and disappearing from the shadows. Barely seeing what you're fighting against strikes more fear into the heart of enemies than a guy who just stands there in a Kung Fu pose and waits for you to come.

Thank you.Someone gets it.That's part of the reason why Batman'89 was so laughable.

 

[Nathan]

Still love how he jumps down behind a goon, uses him to shoot another in the foot and then grabs him and, with a grabbling hook, makes it look like he flies off with him into the darkness. And that just in a matter of seconds.

I really hope he'll still be like a wraith in the sequel and make the lowly criminals **** their pants.

 

[Conebone69]

I think nolan is keeping the fight scenes under wraps to surprise us on july 18th t:

 

[JoeCat]

My fav.

 

[Naite22]

I love the way the fight scene were filmed in Begins "confusing and gritty" as someone called it. I hope this continues in TDK.

And I didn't mind if you couldn't see everything andthat it wasn't a chreographed dance numbers like the Batman movies of the last series. One of the weaker points in the previous movis.

Parden me, but I just think that it's completely ludicrous that they searched the world for a unique fighting style to be used in the new batman movie's, and then after all of their hard work, all of the fighting-choreography needed to pull these fight scenes off what do they do! They pan in the camera so damn close that you can't see **** of what's going on!... Look, I get what they were doing, but it IS ludicrous not to pan out so that we can see all the hard work they put in to creating these fight-scenes! I saw in the special features how they trained the fight-scenes, and this Keyishi style they went with is ****ing awesome!... But again, you can't see any of it so why bother?????

If there were ever two things I could've dared to complain about in Batman Begins it's number 1: that they should have panned out the camera during the fighting-sequences, and 2: Katie Holmes should be replaced as Rachel! Not because she's a bad actor, but because she wasn't "woman" enough to play that kind of character! (sorry Katie)

 

[superkong 500]

If the cape is being hidden, then it's obviously to help Bruce's mobility. I mean, who'd want a big, flapping cape in the way when fighting a bunch of cops? I know I certainly wouldn't.

That said, I'm sure most people will moan about how such an idea completely discredits the comics. I'm an avid comic-book reader and I couldn't care less about whether Bruce retracts his cape in fight scenes. I can fully understand why he'd do it.

Well that's the problem I would understand from a practical point of view but fighting cops is no different than fighting criminals and the cape is part of his iconic look even while he's fighting.

Heck fighting with the cape adds a cool visual element to it, and he fought with the cape in begins so why should it be different this time specialy with a more mobile suit.
If nolan was planning to add more practicality to it he should've started in begins and he didn't so why start now.

Yes a man fighting crime with a long ass cape isn't realistic and he would trip and fall and look ridiculous in real life but this is not real life and for five movies and 60 years plus of comics we have believed that a man can fight with the cape on and make it look cool without falling. Iam all for practicality as long as it doesn't undermine any of the visual elements that make batman such an iconic character.

 

[superkong 500]

Parden me, but I just think that it's completely ludicrous that they searched the world for a unique fighting style to be used in the new batman movie's, and then after all of their hard work, all of the fighting-choreography needed to pull these fight scenes off what do they do! They pan in the camera so damn close that you can't see **** of what's going on!... Look, I get what they were doing, but it IS ludicrous not to pan out so that we can see all the hard work they put in to creating these fight-scenes! I saw in the special features how they trained the fight-scenes, and this Keyishi style they went with is ****ing awesome!... But again, you can't see any of it so why bother?????

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Totally agree They could have just thrown a bunch of random moves and it would be the same since we can't see what the hell is happening.
a choreography should be seen. Iam sure rolled their eyes when they saw the final product. Hopefully nolan acknowledges his mistake and honors their hard work this time around.

 

[Mr. Superhero]

If nolan was planning to add more practicality to it he should've started in begins and he didn't so why start now.

There is context to these films, you know. People seem to be hung up on the idea that "this isn't real life so stop trying to be practical, Nolan" idea. Batman didn't fight without a cape in Begins, no -- but he's got a new suit in this film. He's exploring new ways in how to make his job a heck of a lot more easier. I'm sure he can be forgiven for having at least one fight scene without the cape.

I mean, Begins was full of iconic shots. We've seen lots of iconic shots of Batman in the trailers and pictures and such like. Nolan won't be sacrificing the iconography or whatever; he's simply adding a bit of context to these films. He's trying to flesh this character out as much as possible.

 

[Nathan]

My fav.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

My fav.

Mine too, its one of my fav fight scenes of all time, though it only lasts about 30 seconds, it brutal and he gets his adversaries out of the way fast.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I love this one also, damn I cant decide lol Ahh and please guys lets not turn this thread into another Begins fight scenes are too close up thread, lets leave this for when TDK comes out and we actually can debate about the fighting in that film, if we wanna debate the Begins fighting, we have a whole other section for that.