Interesting news from Comic-Con (Concerning Jean and Scott)

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hi everyone, i got to hear simon kinberg speak today during a panel about how to translate comics to the big screen. he was one of the two guys that wrote x-men: the last stand. he was a really nice guy and he had some very interesting things to say.

he said that james marsden's Superman Returns schedule had nothing to do with Cyclops being killed so early. he said they intended to kill off scott from the very beginning for its emotional impact, and to show that if jean would kill the man she loved then anybody was fair game. however Kinberg said that anna paquin's schedule did get in the way. she was shooting another movie at the time and that prohibited her from being in more scenes. otherwise he said that Rogue would have had a lot more screen time- that was something they really wanted.

perhaps the most interesting news was regarding my favorite mutant, and i'm sure some of yours as well, Jean Grey. Kinberg first acknowledged that the schizophrenic Jean in the movie was a lot different from the Dark Phoenix we know from the comics. But he said that due to studio pressure to avoid the planet destroying themes, as well as due to the realistic tone that Singer had established in the first two films, they had to present Jean the way they did. He did consult with Chris Clairemont about Jean. Okay and here's the last piece of news- he said that it was no accident that Jean Grey had no dialogue in the last 45 minutes of the movie. That was totally due to the studio demands. Kinberg and Zak Penn, the other writer, absolutely wanted to incorporate more Jean/Phoenix stuff. but the studio said no we can't have too much Jean because this is Hugh Jackman and Halle Berry's movie. Kinberg said that he and Penn had to fight tooth and nail to get as much Jean in the movie as they did. He said obviosuly they won most of the battles in the first half of the movie, and lost most of the battles in the 2nd half. He said the studio wanted to keep things simple, so instead of having to write awful dialogue for Jean in the 2nd half, things like "I will destroy you now!", he said they were just forced to keep her quiet. I found all of this stuff fascinating, I hope you guys do too. If you want to hear the full panel discussion, the moderator said it will be availabe in podcast form, i think he said on the apple ipod site or something.
 
WOW!!!

Actually i think FOX was right about not putting ****ty dialogues for PHEONIX :o
 
i guess that rules out the "best we could with" claim they made...these guy just irritate too much:mad:
 
-grunts- so thats what they said, aye bub? I knew it... Fox wanted a Hugh Jackman and Halle Berry movie and thats exactly what we got.

So really, whose idea was to kill off Scott?
 
Yep, I hate FOX :). Oh and it sucks that Anna couldn't be there to do more stuff, what movie was she filming?
 
Superman didn't impact Cyclops' role in the movie...

Fans *****ed about Cyclops dying off so early...

Cyclops dies off so early anyways...

Either they just are totally out of touch with reality, or there are some huge mistruths going on here.

Zak said Fox didn't want Cyclops in the movie period. Simon says the choice to cut Cyclops was made for story purposes. Which was it?
 
Nell2ThaIzzay said:
Superman didn't impact Cyclops' role in the movie...

Fans *****ed about Cyclops dying off so early...

Cyclops dies off so early anyways...

Either they just are totally out of touch with reality, or there are some huge mistruths going on here.

Zak said Fox didn't want Cyclops in the movie period. Simon says the choice to cut Cyclops was made for story purposes. Which was it?


I'm leaning more towards Zak's explanation.
 
DarknessOfDeath said:
So really, whose idea was to kill off Scott?
i think its in the second paragrapgh....it was actually a plan in the first place
 
I meant "they" - does it imply Fox or the writers?

Question, Im having a hard time finding the episodes between TAS Phoenix Saga and the Dark Phoenix saga on youtube. The Episode numbers are between 3:8 and 3:10...
 
"They wanted screen time for Anna Paquin...Something they really wanted..."
so they Imply's it was Actually them(Writers) that planned it....
 
First it was the writer's, then fox, now the writer's. WTF!?! ... So thats it then? he's not coming back...
 
Firstly i wasnt a supporter of a restart, but analysing how screwed up this franchise is now im a full supporter of a reboot
 
There already rebooting Hulk now. Why not X-men?
 
Because X-Men's still making a bloody fortune.

Hulk? Not so much.
 
Granted but when a franchise is pronounced dead they reboot
 
Who cares how old they are, I'd say keep James and Famke and recast storm and Wolverine, keep Anna and the x-kids we've got now, introduce Emma Frost, but introduce Sinister as the main villian.
 
The Ones said:
Granted but when a franchise is pronounced dead they reboot

Who's pronounced it dead? Besides you guys? :confused:
 
Well theres no way thay can bring it back with the same driving force it had since every important character is dead
 

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