Iron Fist Iron fist Costume thread

[UnknownCriminal]

Not really.

What do you mean? What I'm saying is that the show can still be great if the story and the action are both well done, even if Danny doesn't get to wear a full costume this season. Now, if both the story and the action are terrible, not even the most comic accurate and amazingly realized costume you've ever seen could save the show from sucking. Are you honestly saying that you think having a costume is more important for this series than things like storytelling and action direction? Are you being sarcastic? Sometimes is hard to tell over the internet...

 

[pixen]

What do you mean? What I'm saying is that the show can still be great if the story and the action are both well done, even if Danny doesn't get to wear a full costume this season. Now, if both the story and the action are terrible, not even the most comic accurate and amazingly realized costume you've ever seen could save the show from sucking. Are you honestly saying that you think having a costume is more important for this series than things like storytelling and action direction? Are you being sarcastic? Sometimes is hard to tell over the internet...

They are serious. Most people on here like to complain about the whole "doesn't get a costume till the last episode" thing. It's ridiculous. Now if it's a bad show and that happens, I'd be mad too but when it comes to Daredevil, the 12 episodes were great and made up for any lack of professional looks.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

I like to complain about Daredevil's costume *after* the last episode. Lol. The black costume was so much cooler.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I think after he got the second mask, Daredevil's costume looked pretty stellar.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I still wish they'd get rid of the crap on his chest, though.

 

[TheVileOne]

But honestly, why can't we get a costume? I know, grounded gritty realism. I get it. But he's still Iron Fist. This is still a Marvel Comic show is it not right? Why do we hate costumes and masks now? I just don't get it.

Here is my point. These characters are symbols and icons. They wear costumes and sport symbols because it means something. It means their brand stands for something. They are trying to not just be inspirations but they are trying to stand for something as well. Characters wear the costumes for a reason. Moon Knight wears white for a reason. The dude's a little kooky and he doesn't mind taking a hit. He wants the bad guys to come straight for him. He wants them to see him coming Again, the guy has a screw loose.

Heroes wear costumes because they are heroes. They aren't just joe vigilante off the street. The costumes mean they are something more than average vigilante. They are something greater.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Yep, sometimes if you water down a character too much, you run the risk of diluting what makes that character so appealing in the first place and while I acknowledge the old 'clothes do not maketh the man' adage, this is Iron Fist and his distinctive look is one of his cooler defining traits.

Such a damn shame.

 

[Mike Murdock]

But honestly, why can't we get a costume? I know, grounded gritty realism. I get it. But he's still Iron Fist. This is still a Marvel Comic show is it not right? Why do we hate costumes and masks now? I just don't get it.

You're preaching to the choir. I don't think there's anyone here who doesn't want to see it at all. The closest you get are people who say now that they'd prefer Daredevil to have kept his proto-costume. Even then, 100% of people before the show started wanted him to have a costume and that seems to be the case here.

I think there are disagreements on what that costume should be. I think Daredevil's proto-costume painted green is a poor substitute for Iron Fist's costume (it's not that it can't match the look of an Iron Fist costume, but it feels contrary to the spirit of the costume to make it such a western "I bought these materials at the Gap" type thing). But I'm also willing to have generous standards and really think the mask is the only priority. If he were shirtless with his tattoo visible and an Obi around his waist, it could work with the mask on his head.

But I also think it's very easy to write a scene that would give him a pretty traditional costume. I think it has to come about in a different way from Daredevil. Daredevil was about creating a symbol and how it would impact others. I think Danny Rand's costume is about being true to himself and his time in K'un Lun.

 

[3dman27]

But honestly, why can't we get a costume? I know, grounded gritty realism. I get it. But he's still Iron Fist. This is still a Marvel Comic show is it not right? Why do we hate costumes and masks now? I just don't get it.

Here is my point. These characters are symbols and icons. They wear costumes and sport symbols because it means something. It means their brand stands for something. They are trying to not just be inspirations but they are trying to stand for something as well. Characters wear the costumes for a reason. Moon Knight wears white for a reason. The dude's a little kooky and he doesn't mind taking a hit. He wants the bad guys to come straight for him. He wants them to see him coming Again, the guy has a screw loose.

Heroes wear costumes because they are heroes. They aren't just joe vigilante off the street. The costumes mean they are something more than average vigilante. They are something greater.

that's true enough

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

You'd think having a mystic-magic background wherein he acquires a glowing fist would be reason enough to justify a costume. I mean, at that point a costume just seems logical. When you think about, Daredevil kinda had the costume in season 1 that they could use for Iron Fist. Just, lengthen the bandanna, and change the color scheme to green and you're halfway there already.

Daredevil season 2 showed me Marvel Netflix can get out of their own ass and embrace some of the absurdity of what makes most comics great. There were moments in Luke Cage where I felt the same, like Diamondback's suit reveal. I would hope they'd carry that into Iron Fist.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I love Diamondback's outfit, but there's no doubt it's the most mocked moment from Luke Cage by many people.

 

[metaphysician]

You'd think having a mystic-magic background wherein he acquires a glowing fist would be reason enough to justify a costume. I mean, at that point a costume just seems logical.

While I don't doubt that Iron Fist would be fine with a costume. . . could you explain your logic here? Because I don't see any connection between "knows magic kung fu" and "ergo costume".

 

[Mike Murdock]

So I found a much higher quality picture of Danny Rand in the K'un Lun robes. It turns out the picture I saw where it looked more of a yellow-green had something to do with the lighting. I don't quite want this as his costume:

That being said, I do think the exact opposite color scheme could work. Is anyone good at photoshop able to reverse these colors just so I could see how they look?

 

[Surfer]

So I found a much higher quality picture of Danny Rand in the K'un Lun robes. It turns out the picture I saw where it looked more of a yellow-green had something to do with the lighting. I don't quite want this as his costume:

That being said, I do think the exact opposite color scheme could work. Is anyone good at photoshop able to reverse these colors just so I could see how they look?

This is only a nod to his costume colors, and not the costume itself. So the amount of green to yellow is really not that important. It just will give his costume later when he gets one a connection to his past and a reason for choosing the colors he does.

Surfer

 

[Mike Murdock]

I don't disagree that it's a nod to the costume, but it also works as a costume since the entire conceit of his costume is that they were the robes he wore in K'un Lun. That exact same comics-faithful concept can be used in the show for how he chose his costume. Also, you're not going to get that weird high collar thing no matter what so this is pretty close to what you'd want.

ETA: I should also add that the color scheme is actually likely a tribute to the other members of K'un Lun in the comics that were more gold than green (compare the August Personage in Jade, Yu-Ti, to the others in this picture):

 

[Brian Braddock]

While I don't doubt that Iron Fist would be fine with a costume. . . could you explain your logic here? Because I don't see any connection between "knows magic kung fu" and "ergo costume".

I think what he's saying is that if people can buy a Danny having a magical glowing fist, they can buy him wearing a costume. Unfortunately, Buck seems to otherwise.

 

[Tymminator]

But honestly, why can't we get a costume? I know, grounded gritty realism. I get it. But he's still Iron Fist. This is still a Marvel Comic show is it not right? Why do we hate costumes and masks now? I just don't get it.

Here is my point. These characters are symbols and icons. They wear costumes and sport symbols because it means something. It means their brand stands for something. They are trying to not just be inspirations but they are trying to stand for something as well. Characters wear the costumes for a reason. Moon Knight wears white for a reason. The dude's a little kooky and he doesn't mind taking a hit. He wants the bad guys to come straight for him. He wants them to see him coming Again, the guy has a screw loose.

Heroes wear costumes because they are heroes. They aren't just joe vigilante off the street. The costumes mean they are something more than average vigilante. They are something greater.

Yep, sometimes if you water down a character too much, you run the risk of diluting what makes that character so appealing in the first place and while I acknowledge the old 'clothes do not maketh the man' adage, this is Iron Fist and his distinctive look is one of his cooler defining traits.

Such a damn shame.

You'd think having a mystic-magic background wherein he acquires a glowing fist would be reason enough to justify a costume. I mean, at that point a costume just seems logical. When you think about, Daredevil kinda had the costume in season 1 that they could use for Iron Fist. Just, lengthen the bandanna, and change the color scheme to green and you're halfway there already.

Daredevil season 2 showed me Marvel Netflix can get out of their own ass and embrace some of the absurdity of what makes most comics great. There were moments in Luke Cage where I felt the same, like Diamondback's suit reveal. I would hope they'd carry that into Iron Fist.

Yes.

 

[Random490]

I don't mind the lack of a colorful costume with the iron fist logo on it. It never made sense to me why Iron Fist would have a costume with a logo that's branded into he chest. Seems like a pretty easy way to identify who is the masked crime fighter. Still I want some kind of green outfit as his go-to crime fighter attire.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I don't mind the lack of a colorful costume with the iron fist logo on it. It never made sense to me why Iron Fist would have a costume with a logo that's branded into he chest. Seems like a pretty easy way to identify who is the masked crime fighter. Still I want some kind of green outfit as his go-to crime fighter attire.

Well, his first costume just had his chest exposed. Later costumes were attempting to recreate that.

That being said, I do agree with the premise. It doesn't make sense either in the comic or on a show to start with a costume that has the same symbol as on his chest as opposed to a costume where you can see his chest.

 

[Mike Murdock]

So I asked someone on reddit to photoshop the K'un Lun robes with reverse colors to mirror the classic look. A user by the name of cary_granite was nice enough to help me out. I thought it turned out nice, although I'd like the gold to be even lighter overall:

What do you think? If he had the mask, would this work for you as part of his costume (maybe if the gold was a bit lighter)?

 

[3dman27]

So I asked someone on reddit to photoshop the K'un Lun robes with reverse colors to mirror the classic look. A user by the name of cary_granite was nice enough to help me out. I thought it turned out nice, although I'd like the gold to be even lighter overall:

What do you think? If he had the mask, would this work for you as part of his costume (maybe if the gold was a bit lighter)?

it might work

 

[metaphysician]

I think what he's saying is that if people can buy a Danny having a magical glowing fist, they can buy him wearing a costume. Unfortunately, Buck seems to otherwise.

Buck may well be wrong, but that doesn't mean there's some kind of natural logical connection between the two things. "Raised in Kun Lun" justifies them both, but it justifies them *independently*. He could have learned nothing but mundane ( by comic standards ) kung fu, and his Kun Lun upbringing would still provide a potential justification for a costume.

 

[metaphysician]

it might work

Honestly, take that ( or the original version ), let the chest be open so his dragon tattoo is visible, and that'd be fine. He doesn't even really need the mask, not unless the plot actually requires him to have a secret ID.

 

[TheVileOne]

Spoiler

There is a minor Easter egg for the costume but it's a letdown and it's not Danny wearing it.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

I'd've put him in those robes just for when he's meditating and stuff. And at some point have him get into a battle while meditating and fight in it/take it off/torn off as he's fighting.