Is Anyone Else Getting a Little Tired of The Berlanti DC Shows?

[flickchick85]

Now you know that there is no way they would pass up having Felicity geek it out with Winn..

Oh you noticed her conspicuous absence from my list, eh? Damn, thwarted.

 

[kguillou]

I just finished watching season 2 of the Vixen animated series and its pretty good, I feel like they should make a full length animated movie set in the Berlanti verse. Like maybe a big crossover thing; animation allows them to do things that they are restricted to do in live action tv so they could go balls to the wall. I'm surprised they haven't already done this.

 

[metaphysician]

I generally don't laugh either but I will smile. At any rate, the CW shows are like junk food while the DC movies are like gourmet food terribly prepared.

That's actually a really good analogy. Especially since most people would rather eat a hamburger and fries, than prime rib that's been half-burnt and doused in some kind of unidentifiable sauce.

 

[Batmannerism]

That's actually a really good analogy. Especially since most people would rather eat a hamburger and fries, than prime rib that's been half-burnt and doused in some kind of unidentifiable sauce.

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If we're coming up with food analogies, I am happy with CW shows as junk food, or at least fast food (especially the Flash), sometimes it can be nourishing and takes away hunger, but it's generally not high quality fare.

This year's DC movies, well it's like someone saw somebody else create an impressive dish once - and then tried to recreate it themselves, and did a terrible job, bits of it taste familiar but the overall dining experience is pretty unpleasant.

Which is pretty much what you guys said already.......

 

[Luke234]

I loved MOS and BVS. 2 of my fave movies ever. I didn't like Suicide Squad. The tv shows are too goofy for me. I take the kind of humor I got quickly tired of with Marvel and the stakes just don't feel very high even though the circumstances should call for it. Like Suicide Squad , I enjoy checking out the character creations but I fast forward through parts of all those shows. It's that goofy humor and the 90210 feel to it.
I thought early seasons of arrow were the best of the tv stuff.

 

[ManWithNoName18]

Geoff Johns teases new as of yet unannounced DC TV show

Geoff Johns
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5) More #DCTV @CW_TheFlash @CW_Arrow @Gotham @TheCW_Legends @LuciferonFOX @TheCWSupergirl and many more! One which will be announced soon...

 

[BH/HHH]

Aren't they working on Black Lightning?

I wish it were Superman.

 

[Batmannerism]

Aren't they working on Black Lightning?

I wish it were Superman.

Same page ! Hoechlin's Superman was amazing, with a very small amount of screen time.

That scene where he saves the family from the drone, by blocking the bullets with his body, blasts the drone with heat vision, and then he winks at them before flying off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtNHyyn4Clk

To me that's a quintessential Superman moment- if I had to introduce someone to Superman, who'd never heard or seen the character before, that's what I'd show them.

They could build a show around him, easy.

 

[ManWithNoName18]

Depends on what his definition on "unannounced" is.

There's Y The Last Man, Watchmen, DMZ, Red are currently stuck in the development stage

 

[Zant]

Geoff Johns teases new as of yet unannounced DC TV show

Geoff Johns
Geoff Johns – Verified account ‏@geoffjohns

5) More #DCTV @CW_TheFlash @CW_Arrow @Gotham @TheCW_Legends @LuciferonFOX @TheCWSupergirl and many more! One which will be announced soon...

And people say there are too many superhero films. Its the excessive tv superhero stuff that people should be worried about. Could they at least get rid of some of the older shows first. There is a lot of money to be made on tv huh.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

And people say there are too many superhero films. Its the excessive tv superhero stuff that people should be worried about. Could they at least get rid of some of the older shows first. There is a lot of money to be made on tv huh.

Why would they want to get rid of shows still making money? It's like saying the other networks need to get rid of their current cop shows to make room for other cops shows because there are already too many cops shows on TV.

 

[ManWithNoName18]

I know it's been said time and time again the current berlantiverse won't be co opted into the DCEU.

But any thoughts on a future series set within the DCEU? Something like an "Agents of Argus", or Nightwing series that exists within the universe.

Still not sure what exactly Krypton is, but it doesn't even have an earth based setting to tie into.

 

[DigificWriter]

I know it's been said time and time again the current berlantiverse won't be co opted into the DCEU.

But any thoughts on a future series set within the DCEU? Something like an "Agents of Argus", or Nightwing series that exists within the universe.

SyFy's Krypton is set within the DCEU some 200 years before the fall of the planet as depicted in Man of Steel; this has already been officially confirmed, so it very much does count as fulfilling what you're asking for.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

I know it's been said time and time again the current berlantiverse won't be co opted into the DCEU.

But any thoughts on a future series set within the DCEU? Something like an "Agents of Argus", or Nightwing series that exists within the universe.

Still not sure what exactly Krypton is, but it doesn't even have an earth based setting to tie into.

Krypton is by David Goyer and from what I understand it ties in with Man of Steel. So probably the closest to a TV show with ties to the DCEU.

 

[reverse flash]

I feel like theres no need to tie the cwverse into the DCEU. They work better seperate and free to do there own thing.

 

[Batmannerism]

Krypton is by David Goyer and from what I understand it ties in with Man of Steel. So probably the closest to a TV show with ties to the DCEU.

Ugh ! Why bother ? Why not just roll out an enjoyable show about ****ing Superman that ties in with the other DC tv shows ?

Does anyone really care that much about the political intrigues on pre-catastrophe Krypton ? Back in the 80's I remember a short (4 issue) limited series "World of Krypton" and that pretty much did the job. I mean there's a reason the Superman comics focus on well.... Superman, rather than the Kents before they found him.
Smallville, while a prequel, worked because it focused on Clark doing super stuff and his journey to becoming Superman - but a series about the Kents before they found him ? Yawn.

What's the fascination with prequels anyway ? How often are prequels even close to as compelling as their original films ? (yes Hobbit and Star Wars, I'm looking at you !). I mean Gotham's not bad but after one season I realised that Gordon was a very boring protagonist and that left us with essentially a Batman show without Batman - so not all that interesting. Sure, Robin Lord Taylor's Penguin is great as is David Masouz as young Bruce and Sean Pertwee's Alfred, but otherwise it doesn't hold my attention.

So, in short, not excited about Krypton.

 

[sweetre15]

I hope Geoff John's unannounced DC TV show is Teen Titans

 

[Zant]

Why would they want to get rid of shows still making money? It's like saying the other networks need to get rid of their current cop shows to make room for other cops shows because there are already too many cops shows on TV.

That's understandable. The issue is if they continue to increase their output, they will soon run out of networks or prime time slots.

 

[2kt09]

Ugh ! Why bother ? Why not just roll out an enjoyable show about ****ing Superman that ties in with the other DC tv shows ?

Because Supergirl made that redundant.
Today's SyFy is probably the only place I can see Krypton being developed well, but then you realize David Goyer is more worn out than Berlanti.

Poor Goyer, whose ineptitude couldn't get more viewers for Constantine.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Eh... I still contend that on EVERY level that CONSTANTINE was a better show than about every other DC or Marvel based show on the big networks.

 

[Batmannerism]

Because Supergirl made that redundant.
Today's SyFy is probably the only place I can see Krypton being developed well, but then you realize David Goyer is more worn out than Berlanti.

Poor Goyer, whose ineptitude couldn't get more viewers for Constantine.

Actually, that's the Superman I was referring to - using his appearance on Supergirl to spring-board a new show.

And yeah, Goyer........ not the guy I'd pick to create an engaging prequel show - I'd go with Berlanti first, because (while his show might be a bit generic and cheesy) it would at least be fun.

I didn't see enough of Constantine to really judge it properly, I thought the lead pretty decent but the show seemed to be caught between a rock and a hard place: lacking the sheer nastiness of the comics, so it didn't appeal to the fans, and at the same time not being straightforward enough to appeal to a wider audience - is that a fair criticism, it's only based on a couple of episodes ?

 

[2kt09]

Actually, that's the Superman I was referring to - using his appearance on Supergirl to spring-board a new show.

Like I said redundant. Cut Supergirl from her own show and title it 'Superman'. No one would be the wiser.
They didn't even bother making Hoechlin's Superman secretly Hank Henshaw.

And yeah, Goyer........ not the guy I'd pick to create an engaging prequel show - I'd go with Berlanti first, because (while his show might be a bit generic and cheesy) it would at least be fun.

Berlanti's very limited to the point where he's incapable of thinking this outside of the box (since there barely is a box to base off), which is why his shows are "generic and cheesy". You're not going into a Krypton prequel 2 generations removed from Kal-El expecting the kind of things that plague his shows. I figured Supergirl would be the ultimate test of how much he could branch out. Then you realize it's just The Flash all over again with not remotely subtle Superman parallels.

I didn't see enough of Constantine to really judge it properly, I thought the lead pretty decent but the show seemed to be caught between a rock and a hard place: lacking the sheer nastiness of the comics, so it didn't appeal to the fans, and at the same time not being straightforward enough to appeal to a wider audience - is that a fair criticism, it's only based on a couple of episodes ?

It was too straightforward. If you've seen a demon hunting buddy cop thriller, you know the one, you've seen Constantine. Only difference being it's on the network that could've you given something as interesting as Hannibal. Poor Goyer.

 

[Ghost_Rider]

Same page ! Hoechlin's Superman was amazing, with a very small amount of screen time.

That scene where he saves the family from the drone, by blocking the bullets with his body, blasts the drone with heat vision, and then he winks at them before flying off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtNHyyn4Clk

To me that's a quintessential Superman moment- if I had to introduce someone to Superman, who'd never heard or seen the character before, that's what I'd show them.

They could build a show around him, easy.

I doubt they could.

Hoechilin's Superman is supposed to be nearly 40. His Lex is already defeated in jail, and outed as a criminal.

He's already long established to the world and in a longterm relationship with Lois.

Basically his hero's journey is long behind him.

It wouldn't make for worthwhile CW adolescent drama.

We also don't really need another cheesy CW DC series. It's getting excessive now.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

We also don't really need another cheesy CW DC series. It's getting excessive now.

I'll take them any day over yet another NCIS: Random US City from Donald Bellisario or another Chicago Municipal Worker from Dick Wolf.
Or another Marvel superhero that doesn't want to be a superhero that Netflix churns out. If you want to talk about excessive and generic.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I'll take them any day over yet another NCIS: Random US City from Donald Bellisario or another Chicago Municipal Worker from Dick Wolf.
Or another Marvel superhero that doesn't want to be a superhero that Netflix churns out. If you want to talk about excessive and generic.

Instead Greg can turn a super hero INTO a procedural with a set up where he or she has a command center where his/her "team" can bark common sense orders to the titular character whom we are to believe has the sense God gave the average jar of mayo but who instead needs people they trust to tell them simple things like "run" or "fly". The cast will have one older actor to play "the friendly mentor character" another older actor to play "the prickly mentor character", one youthful actor to always spout pop culture references (geeks HATE pop culture references in things cuz they date them... But Greg's characters can get away with it cuz these references flatter the fanboy/girl's ego so...), at least, what...? Two crossed wire romances, a romantic partner from the comics that is played by a lackluster actor/actress so screwing up the canon relationships is a given and every other episode will end with some contemporary adult easy listening/Top 40 Pop song with the supposed "couple" make goo-goo eyes to each other, which BTW was itself a cliche' ending by the time the year 2000 had come around, all to build up to the twist ending which happens EVERY last ten minutes thereby creating a "shocking" moment that you can set your watch to.