BvS Is anyone else not excited about Superman and Batman? I feel nothing but dread. - Part 2

[WBwins]

Its a teamup.Saying BVS is MOS 2 like saying Avengers is Thor 2.

Mind u ive made my peace with this.But it appears a lot of fans are still deluding themselves here and setting themselves up for unneccessary dissapiontment. The title tells you all you need to know

Xactly.It should be clear at this piont

 

[Tra-El]

Its a teamup.Saying BVS is MOS 2 like saying Avengers is Thor 2.

Mind u ive made my peace with this.But it appears a lot of fans are still deluding themselves here and setting themselves up for unneccessary dissapiontment. The title tells you all you need to know

The only people deluding themselves are the ones who still think this is a solo MoS sequel, which it obviously isn't. It depends how you define sequel. When I hear things like the events of MoS are going to be built upon and Superman is going to face the consequences of MoS and when people like Lex Luthor and Bruce Wayne show up because of the aftermath of MoS and if MoS's story remains intact for every cause-and-effect in BvS happening, then I call it a MoS sequel regardless of it's a teammup movie or not.

Knowing what I know from this movie so far, I'm not disappointed in the least. People who are "dreading" this are the reason why the internet is defined as it is. White noise.

 

[WBwins]

The only people deluding themselves are the ones who still think this is a solo MoS sequel, which it obviously isn't. It depends how you define sequel. When I hear things like the events of MoS are going to be built upon and Superman is going to face the consequences of MoS and when people like Lex Luthor and Bruce Wayne show up because of the aftermath of MoS and if MoS's story remains intact for every cause-and-effect in BvS happening, then I call it a MoS sequel regardless of it's a teammup movie or not.

Knowing what I know from this movie so far, I'm not disappointed in the least. People who are "dreading" this are the reason why the internet is defined as it is. White noise.

Agree with this.Its jus that some people on this boards deceived themselves into thinking that this movie is a Superman movie featuring Batman.Its not.Its as much a Batman movie as a Superman Movie.

 

[Tra-El]

Seems we are on the Same page then.Its jus that some people on this boards decieved themselves into thinking that this movie is a Superman movie featuring Batman.Its not.Its as much a Batman movie as a Superman Movie.

I think the focal point of BvS will be how Superman adapts into becoming who he is supposed to be and the natural growth of his character. I don't think there will be as-much-backstory with Batman as he is a grizzled, older veteran that basically needs no introduction since he's been around while Superman is the younger, brasher hero. Not to say Batman will have in depth story, he will, but I think more focus will be on how Clark's story effects things more-so than how Bat's does, but we'll see. Snyder did say "Batman is coming into Superman's world" and "Superman's interaction with other hero's changes him even more in the process."

 

[Travesty]

I thought MOS 2 was confirmed, so BvS should be evident that it's not a direct Superman sequel?

Or was that not confirmed?

 

[Tra-El]

I thought MOS 2 was confirmed, so BvS should be evident that it's not a direct Superman sequel?

Or was that not confirmed?

Nothing is confirmed, just a leaked story but judging by the list, I hope things work out the way the list presented itself. I think with the "MoS 2" on that list, I think that would indicate the next solo Supes film with the Man of Steel title but if that's the sequel to MoS, what story would they use? BvS follows the events of MoS. I bet "MoS 2" or the next solo sequel will be created off of new events.

 

[WBwins]

I think the focal point of BvS will be how Superman adapts into becoming who he is supposed to be and the natural growth of his character. I don't think there will be as-much-backstory with Batman as he is a grizzled, older veteran that basically needs no introduction since he's been around while Superman is the younger, brasher hero. Not to say Batman will have in depth story, he will, but I think more focus will be on how Clark's story effects things more-so than how Bat's does, but we'll see. Snyder did say "Batman is coming into Superman's world" and "Superman's interaction with other hero's changes him even more in the process."

In otherwords youre think that BVS will be a Superman movie featuring Bats and some other JL charcters. That I dont believe.Despite what Snyder says,the fact is Bats is WBs most successful hero.As a result I expect Both he and Supes to share the spotlight.The title says it all

 

[The Endless]

It is a sequel to Man of Steel. It's following up the events of that film, it is delving into the aftermath of that film, it's continuing the story of Superman from that film.

They are just including Batman and Wonder Woman in the continuation of Supermans story. Which makes sense and seems natural in concept. The execution? Remains to be seen.

Avengers is a sequel to Thor, The First Avenger and Iron Man 2.

 

[WBwins]

It is a sequel to Man of Steel. It's following up the events of that film, it is delving into the aftermath of that film, it's continuing the story of Superman from that film.

They are just including Batman and Wonder Woman in the continuation of Supermans story. Which makes sense and seems natural in concept. The execution? Remains to be seen.
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That statement is what we are debating
Is this movie
(A)-A Superman movie featuring JL characters
OR
(B)-A movie that is as much a Batman movie as Superman movie.

Im saying B.

 

[dnno1]

This is what were debating
is this movie
(A)-A Superman movie featuring JL characters
OR
(B)-A movie that is as much a Batman movie as Superman movie.

[I'm] saying B.

The powers that be are saying that this is a follow on film to Man of Steel, meaning it is a sequel. That fact also means that it is a Superman film, which would make it choice A. If you put some thought to it you would realize the case is not like they haven't had characters from other franchises star in a Superman comic ever.

 

[The Endless]

I'd still say it's a Superman movie. It's just showing Batmans reaction to the emergence of Superman. Superman will be the main character and main force that drives the story. Batman will be the guy reacting.

 

[WBwins]

The powers that be are saying that this is a follow on film to Man of Steel, meaning it is a sequel. That fact also means that it is a Superman film, which would make it choice A. If you put some thought to it you would realize the case is not like they haven't had characters from other franchises star in a Superman comic ever.

Just because it follows on MOS doesnt make it a Superman movie.Its the story that makes it so.And if we are going by the movie title as advertised its a Batman/Superman story that will lead to the dawn of the Justice League

I'd still say it's a Superman movie. It's just showing Batmans reaction to the emergence of Superman. Superman will be the main character and main force that drives the story. Batman will be the guy reacting.

Im curious-If it turns out Im right will u b disappionted?

 

[Tra-El]

I don't know how ANY fan can be disappointed in how this thing can go. You have Zack Snyder, the guy responsible for REVIVING the Superman franchise returning as director, who I'm SURE won't do any harm to Supes in this process after being asked to build Superman back up while introducing Batman (without having to repeat the endless origin story) stepping in Supes' way. It doesn't get any better, folks.

 

[Maze]

Avengers was an ensemble movie.

To our knowledge, b V s is superman centric and a continuation of Man Of steel.

It remains to be seen if it is a "true" superman sequel or not.

 

[Guts]

The way I see it this is both the second Superman movie, the first Batman movie, and depending on how big Wonder Woman's role is in the movie it could be the first Wonder Woman movie as well.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

And then there are those like myself that don't give an airborne copulation if it's a true sequel, a stand alone, a pseudo sequel, a quasi-prequel, or a faux double reverse re-boot.

 

[WBwins]

Piont im makin is that those expectn the movie to be Superman centric are settin themselves for disappiontment

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Excepting that there's far more of Superman's supporting cast and his arch villain? Even the rumored other villains, Metallo, Parasite, Doomsday... All Superman characters. As it is confirmed right now Alfred is the only Batman supporting character. That might change, but as of right now it's appears more likely thaf Batman/Bruce Wayne will be interacting with Superman's world more than the reverse. I don't know if you want to call that "Superman centric" or not, but as of now, it's pretty apparent more characters from Superman's world will be taking up screen time than those of Batman. Now, you could have those characters do NOTHING BUT react to Batman, anf maybe that makes things "Batman centric" but it wouldn't change the dynamic of Batman interacting mostly with Superman's world.

 

[dnno1]

Just because it follows on MOS doesnt make it a Superman movie.Its the story that makes it so.And if we are going by the movie title as advertised its a Batman/Superman story that will lead to the dawn of the Justice League.

I'm not going by the movie title. I'm going by what Jeff Bewkes said to investors in the latest Time-Warner annual report. He said it will be the follow on film to Man of Steel, which by definition is a sequel. The fact that the same producers are filming this and that they will be dealing with the aftermath of the events, which occurred in Man of Steel also lays credence to that as well.

 

[JLMHodge]

I want this to do well, I really do, but something tells me that it's not going to be that good. I'll wait for the trailer to come out before I pass any further judgement on it; I could be completely wrong about it.

 

[manofsteel4life]

Should wait for the movie before you pass judgment....just saying

 

[Tra-El]

I'm not going by the movie title. I'm going by what Jeff Bewkes said to investors in the latest Time-Warner annual report. He said the will be the follow on film to Man of Steel, which by definition is a sequel. The fact that the same producers are filming this and that they will be dealing with the aftermath if the events, which occured in Man of Steel also lays creedence to that as well.

 

[HaplessHenchman]

I'm not going by the movie title. I'm going by what Jeff Bewkes said to investors in the latest Time-Warner annual report. He said the will be the follow on film to Man of Steel, which by definition is a sequel. The fact that the same producers are filming this and that they will be dealing with the aftermath if the events, which occured in Man of Steel also lays creedence to that as well.

Well said. I don't know why this concept is so hard for some people to understand.

 

[dnno1]

Man, there are people who want so see this film fail so bad and the SHH moderators just let this thread linger here to allow them to contaminate people's minds into thinking that it will. It is so sad.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

Man, there are people who want so see this film fail so bad and the SHH moderators just let this thread linger here to allow them to contaminate people's minds into thinking that it will. It is so sad.

That is true.