BvS Is anyone else not excited about Superman and Batman? I feel nothing but dread. - Part 2

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I just *sigh* my enthusiasm has just been extinguished for this movie. I was excited as all hell last year when that Batman and Superman logo arose at CC, but it's turned into something else entirely it seems. It just seems Snyder is trying to constantly adjust to all these changes. And yes, even if Terrio is rewriting, I don't think that will do much in the end. Couple that with MOS not being all that, I just don't have much faith in this. If anything, this could be the next ASM2. Just a hodge podge of a film trying to reconcile all the various elements being thrown into it to make more money.

Can anyone here change my mind? What do I have to look forward to this movie besides Affleck as Batman and Cavill? Why should I believe that this is going to be a great movie?
I share some of your concerns with Snyder, but we still don't know how anything will play out. Until we get some concrete ideas about what the story is, I'll remain cautiously optimistic. For me, that's the best way to approach it.
 
I share some of your concerns with Snyder, but we still don't know how anything will play out. Until we get some concrete ideas about what the story is, I'll remain cautiously optimistic. For me, that's the best way to approach it.
Agreed.
 
I simply do not have a doubt in my mind that this film will be nothing but awesome, having loved MOS, I am at complete ease that DoJ will rock....
 
I'm both cautiously optimistic and indifferent. I want the film to be good, but I won't get upset if it isn't.
 
I just *sigh* my enthusiasm has just been extinguished for this movie. I was excited as all hell last year when that Batman and Superman logo arose at CC, but it's turned into something else entirely it seems. It just seems Snyder is trying to constantly adjust to all these changes. And yes, even if Terrio is rewriting, I don't think that will do much in the end. Couple that with MOS not being all that, I just don't have much faith in this. If anything, this could be the next ASM2. Just a hodge podge of a film trying to reconcile all the various elements being thrown into it to make more money.

Can anyone here change my mind? What do I have to look forward to this movie besides Affleck as Batman and Cavill? Why should I believe that this is going to be a great movie?

Not sure if I can change your mind, but I do share some concerns.

I try to be optimistic and succeed most of the time, but I do worry that this film will be a hodge podge of cameos to herald JL, attempts to address plot points from MOS, and select scenes form comics like TDKR that Snyder finds awesome. I worry it will resemble MOS and Rises in the sense that's it's ambitious, but a little scattered. The idea that Terrio's involvement is limited and won't end up improving the script that much (I found the script was MOS's major flaw) is a concern as well.

To counteract that, I try to remember that we're still in the glory days when we can imagine that all of the above won't become truth. Perhaps Terrio's involvement in the script was extensive and we have something worthy of these characters. Maybe the plot and attention to characters will work in tandem like in DOFP. If such things haven't been proven false, they're still a possibility.
 
I'm honestly getting less &less excited as time goes by. I couldn't even get hype enough to see the latest Spiderman film. I'll need to hear of a game changing casting to get me hype. I don't hate Afleck as far too many people do &if Gal puts on enough weight I'll have no problem w/her either. I don't hate any of the castings so far, but none of them scream "must see" either. I'm gonna be seeing this on a premium channel 1st if I don't hear something awesome soon.
 
I'm jumping it a little late here:

"Superman Returns" was IMO the best movie, followed by "Superman: The Movie". My biggest gripe with "Superman: The Movie" was Ned Beatty, but otherwise it's great for it's time.

MoS, on the other hand was a boring movie. The first half of MoS was decent, but the last 1/2 was bad and lost my interest. I'll wait for BvS on rental.
 
I'm jumping it a little late here:

"Superman Returns" was IMO the best movie, followed by "Superman: The Movie". My biggest gripe with "Superman: The Movie" was Ned Beatty, but otherwise it's great for it's time.

MoS, on the other hand was a boring movie. The first half of MoS was decent, but the last 1/2 was bad and lost my interest. I'll wait for BvS on rental.

I'm not even gonna try to make an argument against your opinion because obviously our opinions are very different. It sucks you didn't like MoS but don't let that get in the way of seeing BvS in theatres! This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to see Batman and Superman in a movie together on the big screen for the first time!
 
I wouldn't bother with the convincing. Anyone who finds the plodding snooze-fest that was SR better than S:TM is a lost cause. Seriously.
 
Yeah I wouldn't say your a lost cause, you just have a different opinion!
 
And that's what makes him a lost cause. Shame on you if you dare to be different.
 
I'm jumping it a little late here:

"Superman Returns" was IMO the best movie, followed by "Superman: The Movie". My biggest gripe with "Superman: The Movie" was Ned Beatty, but otherwise it's great for it's time.

MoS, on the other hand was a boring movie. The first half of MoS was decent, but the last 1/2 was bad and lost my interest. I'll wait for BvS on rental.

That's pretty much the exact opposite of how I'd rank the movies, but that's ok. As Matt already said, try not to let it sour you totally on BvS. Have a peek at the trailers when they come and listen to word of mouth. BvS might be different and you might find yourself wanting to check it out in the theatre.
 
Not sure if I can change your mind, but I do share some concerns.

I try to be optimistic and succeed most of the time, but I do worry that this film will be a hodge podge of cameos to herald JL, attempts to address plot points from MOS, and select scenes form comics like TDKR that Snyder finds awesome. I worry it will resemble MOS and Rises in the sense that's it's ambitious, but a little scattered. The idea that Terrio's involvement is limited and won't end up improving the script that much (I found the script was MOS's major flaw) is a concern as well.

To counteract that, I try to remember that we're still in the glory days when we can imagine that all of the above won't become truth. Perhaps Terrio's involvement in the script was extensive and we have something worthy of these characters. Maybe the plot and attention to characters will work in tandem like in DOFP. If such things haven't been proven false, they're still a possibility.
Are you... me? I have the same fears.
 
I just *sigh* my enthusiasm has just been extinguished for this movie. I was excited as all hell last year when that Batman and Superman logo arose at CC, but it's turned into something else entirely it seems. It just seems Snyder is trying to constantly adjust to all these changes. And yes, even if Terrio is rewriting, I don't think that will do much in the end. Couple that with MOS not being all that, I just don't have much faith in this. If anything, this could be the next ASM2. Just a hodge podge of a film trying to reconcile all the various elements being thrown into it to make more money.

Can anyone here change my mind? What do I have to look forward to this movie besides Affleck as Batman and Cavill? Why should I believe that this is going to be a great movie?

Great post Doctor Jones. I do wonder how much influence WB is exerting behind the scenes upon Snyder since its felt by many people that WB is very much behind when it comes to catching up to other studios superhero franchises. That said, I hope Terrio can polish and give more weight to the script.
 
Great post Doctor Jones. I do wonder how much influence WB is exerting behind the scenes upon Snyder since its felt by many people that WB is very much behind when it comes to catching up to other studios superhero franchises. That said, I hope Terrio can polish and give more weight to the script.

I think in relation to WB being 'behind the game', a view may be that Snyder is the first director that they have worked with in their output that wishes to expand the universe. Nolan made it clear his films were enclosed in a three act capacity, Martin Campbell was the wrong choice for GL and he was never going to expand so WB I think have had 'to wait' to put into motion what has happened, this 'they don't have a plan', I don't buy, I just think when MOS launched they were waiting on Nolan's guidance and transition for Snyder to 'settle in' and then take it forward.
 
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