Is anyone not excited about Spider-man in the MCU?

[SuperFerret]

I'm mostly worried about Civil War. That said, if Spider-Man takes the New Warriors' role in Civil War, I'd be ridiculously happy. Or if they make Spider-Man an adult, but that's not happening, so I'm hoping for complete screw-up Spider-Kid.

 

[BlueLightning]

The only thing that bothers me though is this part:

Sony Pictures will continue to finance, distribute, own and have final creative control of the Spider-Man films.

However, since the deal is that this new version of Spider-Man has to fit in the MCU, I think that worry is greatly loosened.

 

[Mjölnir]

The only thing that bothers me though is this part:



However, since the deal is that this new version of Spider-Man has to fit in the MCU, I think that worry is greatly loosened.

Sony would never give those things up so it doesn't mean much. The good part is that they will want to listen to Feige because Marvel Studios have done so much better with their properties, so even if Sony calls the shots it's in their interest to call it like Feige says most of the time.

This is about as much win-win as you get. Sony keeps everything and suddenly everyone are excited about their property instead of badmouthing it. Marvel gets to use Spider-Man in the MCU (at least one movie, probably more) and they didn't really have to give up anything. And of course us fans have something more promising to look forward to with a better Spider-Man than TASM2 and a Civil War with the proper Spider-Man role.

 

[SuperT]

The only other thing I'm annoyed about is that they pushed back everything to fit another Spider-Man movie in as if we need another one right this second.

 

[mace1]

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You make very good points, and they are certainly concerns that many share. We should keep these concerns in mind as we go forward and hope that Marvel Studios uses Spider-Man wisely.

At the same time, however, I can't help but comment on how amusing it is to observe how many fanboys who for ages clamored for the return of Spider-Man to Marvel now suddenly are feeling a case of buyer's remorse.

These fanboys should have been aware of the potential drawbacks of incorporating Spider-Man into the MCU, and they should have thought through these issues before they made their demands. But instead, they shouted their demands for Spidey's return louder and louder, and ever more stridently and intransigently, on every message board and forum. Now they finally have their wish, and now all of a sudden, they now start complaining about it and its accompanying consequences.

Now they voice their outrage over the altered dates of other MCU releases, and they worry how Spidey will fit into the overall universe. Well, shouldn't they have considered these potential downsides before demanding Spidey's incorporation into the MCU? They should have realized that there are downsides for everything.

But they now have their wish. And they're still dissatisfied? Too bad. As the old saying goes: You have made your bed. Now sleep in it.

I agree.
What is that old saying?
Be careful what you wish for because you might just get it.

 

[Chance Jackson]

I'm not in love with the idea given what Ben Fritz is saying:
"Disney has just pushed back 4 Marvel movies (Thor 3, Black Panther, Captain Marvel and Inhumans) to make room for Spider-Man in July 2017"

"In wake of new Spider-Man movie, Thor 3 now comes out 11/3/17, Black Panther 7/6/18, Captain Marvel 11/2/18, Inhumans 7/12/19"

I hate that Marvel's slate is changing and that previous films on the slate, that many of us were looking forward to, are getting pushed back because Marvel got back the film rights to one of their block buster IPs. This is ****ing BS, and if this going to happen if FF and X-Men come back to Marvel Studios than I hope they NEVER EVER come back

The only thing I'm not excited about is the fact that we're getting yet ANOTHER Peter Parker story. He's had five now, can we get something new for a change? I'd be over the moon if we got Miles Morales instead.

That I would not mind actually, but neither Marvel nor Sony Nor Disney Have the balls to start off a Spider-man universe with Miles

 

[InternetPeople]

You make very good points, and they are certainly concerns that many share. We should keep these concerns in mind as we go forward and hope that Marvel Studios uses Spider-Man wisely.

At the same time, however, I can't help but comment on how amusing it is to observe how many fanboys who for ages clamored for the return of Spider-Man to Marvel now suddenly are feeling a case of buyer's remorse.

These fanboys should have been aware of the potential drawbacks of incorporating Spider-Man into the MCU, and they should have thought through these issues before they made their demands. But instead, they shouted their demands for Spidey's return louder and louder, and ever more stridently and intransigently, on every message board and forum. Now they finally have their wish, and now all of a sudden, they now start complaining about it and its accompanying consequences.

Now they voice their outrage over the altered dates of other MCU releases, and they worry how Spidey will fit into the overall universe. Well, shouldn't they have considered these potential downsides before demanding Spidey's incorporation into the MCU? They should have realized that there are downsides for everything.

But they now have their wish. And they're still dissatisfied? Too bad. As the old saying goes: You have made your bed. Now sleep in it.

 

[Fincher]

I've never read the comics, and I didn't like the Raimi films. After the third one, I was starting to suspect that I just didn't like Spider-Man. Then the ASM films came out, and they were good. Not among my favorites in the genre, but good. Even though ASM2 was disappointing after the original, I was still interested in seeing where they would go with it, with Peter meeting Mary Jane and moving on, and I wanted a Black Cat spinoff.

Sony had some questionable plans, and I don't know for sure how things would have turned out, but there's nothing exciting to me about starting over in the MCU. First of all, it's too soon. Even if they don't do an origin story (and I'm not keen on going through the same origin for the third time in however many years), I'm just not up to rebooting this right now. I'm not the biggest Spider-Man fan in the world, and given that the Raimi films are more popular than the Webb films, and I don't like those, I really don't know that Spider-Man "coming home" is going to translate to a Spider-Man franchise I'll care much about. I don't care about getting crossovers or Spider-Man in The Avengers. And when there's talk of no origin and less romance, I don't honestly know what that gets replaced with. More focus on the villain? Peter Parker, intrepid photographer? The symbiote plotline again? Forty-five minutes of Peter dealing with his Eastern European landlord?

It's not like Daltonio where I'm heartbroken over this, but right now I just...don't care. Maybe it'll look more interesting in two years, but it's easy to see myself skipping this in favor of something new.

 

[starscream22]

Boo Hoo...the Amazing Spider-man films were a failure, so good riddance. File them next to Ghost Rider and Fox's Daredevil as examples on how not to make Marvel movies... Now lets await Marvel work their magic on this franchise as it should've been!

 

[Tony Stark]

The only other thing I'm annoyed about is that they pushed back everything to fit another Spider-Man movie in as if we need another one right this second.

The only one that got me was Thor. I feel that one they're giving up on a little early. Thor TDW while not a bad film, was disappointing in that it was the huge upgrade in quality we saw with CA:TWS. Between Hemsworth and Hiddleston, I feel Thor could potentially be a 800M WW if not a billion dollar franchise.

Having said that, Spider-man is Marvel's flagship character, and I say that as a long time Iron Man fan. I'm so tickled as an IM fan to see the character that I grew up with who was second tier best for most of the time I grew up reading him. But Spider-man is the character that put Marvel on the map to where they are today.

Marvel gets this, and that's why they made the move. If they could have had Spidey earlier, he probably would have been in the first Avengers, or Age of Ultron, but they couldn't do it.

I'm just excited to see the company that actually cares about the character more than anyone else get a shot to make him the character we all want to know and see.

While I liked the Raimi films, I think many can see there was room for improvement, and the Webb films got some things better, but still turned out the wrong way.

I want to see Marvel hit this one out of the park!

 

[metaphysician]

Put me down as "has reservations". I worry that Sony will retain too much creative control. I also worry that Marvel Studios will overemphasis Spider-man at the expense of other characters, and this will hurt them ( especially if there's significant reshuffling in Phase 3 ).

Still, it is kind of nice for Marvel to get one of their three wayward children back.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Would be col if they ever did something like Spider-Verse in the movies and brought in Tobey and Garfield.

 

[MadVillainy]

Until then, I just hope Cap won't be overshadowed in CW. He's the main reason I watch MCU .

That's a big worry for me too

 

[warcam]

I'm against it for many of the reasons already stated:
-Sony maintains control
-Cap may get even more overshadowed in his own film...1st by IM, now Spidey
-The other films get pushed back
I mean, at this point, did the MCU really NEED Spiderman? I don't think so. They've shown they can get by with the characters they do have just fine, and I was incredibly excited with their phase 3 plans. Now.....?
For me, it sort of undermines what Feige has always said "We have a plan"..."This is the plan"....."OHH...we can use Spiderman now? CHANGE OF PLANS." It's almost like they didn't have enough confidence in using Black Panther to fill the void in Civil War (if that's the direction they were heading judging by the Marvel announcement back in October). Or, it's merely a case of one-upmanship to DC (and maybe Avi Arad).
In Feige I trust, but still......

 

[The Guard]

Sort of meh. Mildly interested in seeing a new take, especially Fury/Spidey, but on paper, I don't expect much of an improvement over what we've gotten in two previous franchises.

Marvel hasn't exactly presented their characters with a ton of insight, which leads me to believe they'll get the basics right (which we've seen).

The main reason I'd be excited about this would be to see his villains properly realized...but Marvel hasn't exactly been doing that all that well, either.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

After learning the spefics of the deal, I'm more worried now. Feige has no creative control over the spin-offs, Sony is in charge of the casting decisions. the last time Sony cast Spider-Man we ended up with that Garfield guy with the weird Jedward hairstyle. You don't let the people cast Spidey who last time cast someone like Garfield. You just don't

 

[Lilbaz]

Don't get me wrong, this is great news overall. And I trust MCU wouldn't be stupid enough to do a deal that would give Sony complete control, no matter what the press release says. And hopefully Avi Arad got booted to the curb.

But the great thing about not having the rights to Spider-man, X-men, or even FF was that it force Marvel to develop its lesser properties. And it looked like we are finally getting that with BP and Captain Marvel in the works. But as soon as they get Spider-man back, now they get pushed back.

I personally would rather see someone and something new and different. like Black Panther or Captain Marvel. I, and am guessing the general audience as well, doesn't care to see ANOTHER origin story. ANOTHER fight with Green Goblin, even if the fans say he hasn't been faithfully realized before. ANOTHER third act where Spider-man has to save Gwen, or Mary Jane, or whoever else this time.

Anyone else feel this way?

Marvel will be making 3 films a year soon. Their lesser properties will be made.
BP and CM are getting pushed back a couple of months. They're years away anyway, what difference does a couple of months make?
I doubt they'd do an origin story and guess they will leave GG well alone.

Sony will have control. What does that mean? The CEO of Sony is not writing the scripts or directing the films. Whoever who will be will have to ok it with Feige to make sure that Spidey will fit into the MCU and Feiges vision. Just as Gunn the Russos etc... do now.

 

[Lilbaz]

I'm mostly worried about Civil War. That said, if Spider-Man takes the New Warriors' role in Civil War, I'd be ridiculously happy. Or if they make Spider-Man an adult, but that's not happening, so I'm hoping for complete screw-up Spider-Kid.

Have any Marvel films so far been exactly like the comics? Why do you think they'll start now?

 

[SuperT]

After learning the spefics of the deal, I'm more worried now. Feige has no creative control over the spin-offs, Sony is in charge of the casting decisions. the last time Sony cast Spider-Man we ended up with that Garfield guy with the weird Jedward hairstyle. You don't let the people cast Spidey who last time cast someone like Garfield. You just don't

There were many things wrong with the ASM movies but Garfield was most definitely not one of them. Really sad we're going to lose him...

 

[Lilbaz]

The only thing I'm not excited about is the fact that we're getting yet ANOTHER Peter Parker story. He's had five now, can we get something new for a change? I'd be over the moon if we got Miles Morales instead.

Only people who currently read comics have any idea who Miles is. Peter Parker has 50 years of history, numerous cartoons and films. They would be mad to base Spiderman on Miles Morales. It would piss off a lot of people.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

There were many things wrong with the ASM movies but Garfield was most definitely not one of them. Really sad we're going to lose him...

different tes and stuff but I relly can't stand his face and his stupid hair

 

[Chance Jackson]

Marvel will be making 3 films a year soon. Their lesser properties will be made.
BP and CM are getting pushed back a couple of months. They're years away anyway, what difference does a couple of months make?
I doubt they'd do an origin story and guess they will leave GG well alone.

BP was going to come out early November of 17 now we have to wait until July of the next year; that's several months everything is getting pushed back to fit in Spider-man

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

As flawed as the TASM movies were in spots, I still kinda loved them, moreso than most MCU films, so I'm a little bummed that Garfield and the storyline are done. I still think a TASM3 with the S6 as villains, since it's something new and different for Spidey movies, could have done well financially.

But I dont mind frequent reboots and new interpretations, and the MCU connections will also breathe some fresh air into the character. Excited.

 

[Mandon Knight]

I am genuinely dis-interested, really could give an F where he goes, what happens to him or where we see another Spidey film, I think the character has been ripped apart enough, give him a rest frankly.

 

[kguillou]

Marvel will be making 3 films a year soon. Their lesser properties will be made.
BP and CM are getting pushed back a couple of months. They're years away anyway, what difference does a couple of months make?
I doubt they'd do an origin story and guess they will leave GG well alone.

Sony will have control. What does that mean? The CEO of Sony is not writing the scripts or directing the films. Whoever who will be will have to ok it with Feige to make sure that Spidey will fit into the MCU and Feiges vision. Just as Gunn the Russos etc... do now.

But its not just a couple of months. BP is being moved 8 months. Thats almost a year. If anything this is going to have to mean BP's role in Civil War NEEDS TO Be beefed up because we wont be seeing him for a while after that.