The Dark Knight Is Nolan abusing his reputation?

why did you say this is not a "Nolan shouldve listened to the fans" thread when it clearly is?

Nolan dosent have to do anything. All he needs to do is cast a guy who matches the joker from the comics. thats it. Stop your whining
 
Let the man do his work.

THE worst thing any director can do is listen to fans.
 
Dark Phantom said:
I'm a little upset over the casting of Ledger as Joker, although I would have preferred Lachy Hulme or even Paul Bettany. But the main reason I'm mad is because Nolan just picked Ledger out of the blue and we had knowledge of this what so ever. Now I may sound whiny like, "Nolan should listen to the fans first." But thats not the case.

Nolan built up a reputation with Batman Begins. He listened to the fans for casting choices before making his own. He went over to DC comic writers to ask for their approval before making any neccassary changes. My point is, it seems that Nolan is taking advantage of his status as a director. Many fans put their faith into Nolan, accepting mostly anything that will be developed in BB2. But now its like a stab in the back. Its like Nolan doesn't care who the fans want as Joker.

Maybe Ledger was really good in his screentest and Nolan saw something. Maybe Ledger will prove me wrong and make a great Joker in the film. But Nolan should have kept the fans informed that Ledger was a candidate. Its like he's forgetting to do everything that made BB such a huge success.

I'm sorry. i just had to get that off my chest.

He only listened about Bale... in the rest he kicked our asses...
 
Well, Bale was the best choice I think. I can't think of anyone else who had any hype around him that was good enough or better.
 
ChrisBaleBatman said:
Nah, I think he is getting a rep. Batman Begins did that for him.

Look at the new Presitge trailer....it's got him as a headliner...."FROM THE DIRECTOR OF BATMAN BEGINS AND MEMENTO".........so, the studio wouldn't put that in there if they didn't think people would be like "Oh he's done good work".

Plus....he's still a very young director. Dude has made leaps and bounds in a handful of films. He might not be a Speilberg.....atleast not yet. But, if he keeps up the way he is...he'll become a huge name director some day.

I agree completely.
 
Dark Phantom said:
I'm a little upset over the casting of Ledger as Joker, although I would have preferred Lachy Hulme or even Paul Bettany. But the main reason I'm mad is because Nolan just picked Ledger out of the blue and we had knowledge of this what so ever. Now I may sound whiny like, "Nolan should listen to the fans first." But thats not the case.

Nolan built up a reputation with Batman Begins. He listened to the fans for casting choices before making his own. He went over to DC comic writers to ask for their approval before making any neccassary changes. My point is, it seems that Nolan is taking advantage of his status as a director. Many fans put their faith into Nolan, accepting mostly anything that will be developed in BB2. But now its like a stab in the back. Its like Nolan doesn't care who the fans want as Joker.

Maybe Ledger was really good in his screentest and Nolan saw something. Maybe Ledger will prove me wrong and make a great Joker in the film. But Nolan should have kept the fans informed that Ledger was a candidate. Its like he's forgetting to do everything that made BB such a huge success.

I'm sorry. i just had to get that off my chest.


Does Nolan have your number? because I'm pretty annoyed he didn't call me and keep me informed too.
 
I have to admit I was a bit taken aback by the announcement of Ledger as a candidate (and the amount of time it took for the confirmation of him getting the part to leak out), but now that I think about it, I really like the idea. As others have said, Nolan has made some smart casting decision thus far, and if he sees something in Ledger, then it must be something good.
 
StorminNorman said:
I miss the IN NOLAN WE TRUST thread :(

Hey Normin, you've probably been asked this a million times, but are you holding up? LOL

I was typing a reply to someone about a Ledger manip and I instantly without thinking typed Bettany and had to backspace...I've got Bettany on the brain....but I'm really intrigued by this pick of Ledger. I'm assuming you are game for it as your avatar is now Ledger.
 
mcflytrap said:
Hey Normin, you've probably been asked this a million times, but are you holding up? LOL

I was typing a reply to someone about a Ledger manip and I instantly without thinking typed Bettany and had to backspace...I've got Bettany on the brain....but I'm really intrigued by this pick of Ledger. I'm assuming you are game for it as your avatar is now Ledger.
:( dont say bettany anymore......it makes me cry:(
 
xwolverine2 said:
:( dont say bettany anymore......it makes me cry:(

Damnit!!!

BETTANY FOR RIDDLER!!!!! **** **** ****!!! EEEEEEYAAAAHH! MY LOVE FOR THE BETT WILL NEVER DIE!!!

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The Batman said:
why did you say this is not a "Nolan shouldve listened to the fans" thread when it clearly is?

Nolan dosent have to do anything. All he needs to do is cast a guy who matches the joker from the comics. thats it. Stop your whining
Wait... do you like Ledger being cast? I would have pegged you as someone who would disagree with it, because, historically, we agree on nothing, haha.
 
I'm indifferent, really. Chris nolan is a good director, so whining because ledger has been cast is really stupid, imo. not to mention DP will probably be praising him by the time the flick comes out
 
mcflytrap said:
Hey Normin, you've probably been asked this a million times, but are you holding up? LOL

I was typing a reply to someone about a Ledger manip and I instantly without thinking typed Bettany and had to backspace...I've got Bettany on the brain....but I'm really intrigued by this pick of Ledger. I'm assuming you are game for it as your avatar is now Ledger.

LOL, actually I am surprisingly fine - I really really really like Ledger, I just loved Bettany :( This casting decision is one I am extremely happy with because I am convinced that Ledger can deliever the goods. If Hulme was chosen I would be biting my fingernails for the next two years because an untested actor was taking the role of my favorite villian.

Also....BETTANY FOR BLACK MASK or RIDDLER DAMMIT! :)
 
I'm not a fan of the casting decision to go with young good looks before personality (Nicholson set the bar high on this character), but I will admit I am more pleased with Ledger than Betany or Hulme.
 
thorstone said:
I'm not a fan of the casting decision to go with young good looks before personality (Nicholson set the bar high on this character), but I will admit I am more pleased with Ledger than Betany or Hulme.

Yes, because Nolan was CLEARLY going for Young Good Looks over Personality when he made this decision - I mean that sounds like a move Nolan would make. :rolleyes:
 
Not @ all, Norman. Nolan tested people and thought Ledger'd be the best, my theory at least...
 
Of course he tested people. You don't cast a role like this without screentests.
 
Bale Vs Heath won't make a good on screen presentation. I just don't see it.
 
explode7 said:
Bale Vs Heath won't make a good on screen presentation. I just don't see it.

Wow... then you're going to see it TWICE in the next year...:o
 
I don't know about Nolan's reputation. I just know he can make a damn good Batman film, and that's what matters to me.

Now let's see what Ledger can do. (If it's true.)
 
fabman said:
Not @ all, Norman. Nolan tested people and thought Ledger'd be the best, my theory at least...

...yea thats what I was getting at :)
 

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