Is Super-Heroism Possible?

[The Question]

Same, although usually for me it's the next day.

 

[Sun_Down]

sundown I like you. lol you stay on topic I think I am going to ignore that french chick she doesn't.

Now apparently you have never been desperate, or gone an extended amount of time without food after a week you are a weak as a 12 year old so the playing feild would be level. Now there are people who have been shot for rearending someone so I am sure they'd use ice breathe on that person if they had that ability

now what if the king was kind to some and not to others. lets say that your families life wasn't very good but yours was then what?

True, I have never been that desperate, so I can't say with certainty how I'd act. But I can say that I have enough moral character not to attack a child, although I might be desperate enough to rob an adult, if it meant my survival and wouldn't seriously harm the other person.

As for the ice breath thing, yes, there are people who would use such a power to kill someone over something as trivial as a traffic accident. However, not everyone would react that way. Having such power does not necessarily mean that you will abuse it. That's all I'm trying to say.

Your last situation is interesting. If I'm understanding you, you're asking what I'd do if I was treated well but my loved ones weren't, correct? In that case, I have to try and instigate a change in the system. But I don't think my first action would be in the direction of toppling the government. There are many other civil ways to change things like that.

Alas, I fear we've veered off topic here. If you want to discuss the idea that "absolute power corrupts absolutely" in regard to the topic "Is Superheroism Possible?", I'd be glad to. I very much enjoy our debate

 

[donaldthe3rd]

What are we talking about now? I was away for awhile and when I got back couln't keep up.

 

[The Question]

What are we talking about now? I was away for awhile and when I got back couln't keep up.

Well, I posted this:

Now, to change the topic slightly, in keeping with the point of the conversation:


An interesting section of the question as to wether superheroism is possible is, naturally, superhumans. There have been claims of superhuman feats, even seemingly supported claims, in the past, and unless I'm merely exadgerang, the number of claims that seem to have some ground are growing.

For example, I remember a poster on the Hype, some time ago, posted a story about a friend of his who possessed unique mental abilities. His friend was highly inteligent, could "read" people, being able to figure out what they were doing, what they were about to do, and what they were like just by glancing at them, and claimed that he could see spirits from time to time, even saying that at one point that he confronted an entity he believed to be the Grim Reaper, which he "ordered" to leave his family alone. Now, I can't recall who posted this or what thread it was on, but it, along with other such claims, certainly pertains to the topic at hand.


Also, if it will help anyone remember the example I'm talking about, I do recall that the poster mentioned some religious cult having a fascination with his friend, even stalking the family when his friend was a small child.

Then Elijya mentioned some psychic stuff he's experienced.

 

[donaldthe3rd]

OH i see. Well who hasnt claimed they've had a psychic moment in their life. Most times they just want attention. But I think it is possible. No one really knows the limitaions of the human mind.

 

[Elijya]

I'm a moderator with over 40,000 posts here, I think I have more than enough attention from these boards than to resort to lying about something as trivial as having a dream that later actually happened

 

[donaldthe3rd]

what does it matter if you had a million posts here? What does that have to do with psykosis?

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Dreams that happen later? Dream precognition? I believe most people experience that, or at least, have a faulty memory of dreams that roughly fit the situation enough for them to fit it together themselves. God knows I feel like I've had dreams years before they happen, but I doubt I dream the exact same thing.

 

[Elijya]

what does it matter if you had a million posts here? What does that have to do with psykosis?

Nothing. It has to do with "want[ing] attention"

 

[donaldthe3rd]

Well anyone can easily tell a lie to get attention. It has nothing to do with how many posts you have though.

 

[The Question]

Dreams that happen later? Dream precognition? I believe most people experience that, or at least, have a faulty memory of dreams that roughly fit the situation enough for them to fit it together themselves. God knows I feel like I've had dreams years before they happen, but I doubt I dream the exact same thing.

Mine usually happen the next day, when my memory of the previous night's trip in the Dreaming are a bit clearer.

 

[donaldthe3rd]

It seems like a very possible gesture to be able to have a glance into the future.

 

[Elijya]

Well anyone can easily tell a lie to get attention. It has nothing to do with how many posts you have though.

I'm saying I don't need to lie if I want attention

 

[Sun_Down]

Dreams that happen later? Dream precognition? I believe most people experience that, or at least, have a faulty memory of dreams that roughly fit the situation enough for them to fit it together themselves. God knows I feel like I've had dreams years before they happen, but I doubt I dream the exact same thing.

Yeah, I really don't think there's anyone who hasn't experienced that.

 

[donaldthe3rd]

I know I have.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Nothing. It has to do with "want[ing] attention"

Agreed. Though some people don't care. My post count could dissapear tomorrow, and I'd probably cheer about it. Something about starting anew that's so...romantic.

Mine usually happen the next day, when my memory of the previous night's trip in the Dreaming are a bit clearer.

Could be a "repeating fit memory" like I described, though. Though I can't really prove it one way or the other, to tell the truth. Some people's are extremely descriptive, where some are simply filing papers over a desk with a light above them, and then all of the sudden, years later, it happens, and their memories restructure with THAT memory to create a false memory.

Yeah, I really don't think there's anyone who hasn't experienced that.

Maybe.

 

[The Question]

Could be a "repeating fit memory" like I described, though. Though I can't really prove it one way or the other, to tell the truth. Some people's are extremely descriptive, where some are simply filing papers over a desk with a light above them, and then all of the sudden, years later, it happens, and their memories restructure with THAT memory to create a false memory.

Well, if it were over a year later, then I'd be more likely to think of it as coincidence or de ja vu. But the next day? Bit close for me to think it was just a coincidence. Also, the fact that other members of my mom's side of the family have mentioned experiences with psychic phenomina in the past leads credence to the idea that it's a bit more than de ja vu.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Well, if it were over a year later, then I'd be more likely to think of it as coincidence or de ja vu. But the next day? Bit close for me to think it was just a coincidence. Also, the fact that other members of my mom's side of the family have mentioned experiences with psychic phenomina in the past leads credence to the idea that it's a bit more than de ja vu.

Well, I mean, did the day change radically from the last per chance? If so, then I'd be more inclined to lean in your favour. But if it's something you've done in the past week, chances are you've had a few dreams about it by now. Even conversations with the person sitting in front of you in high school are a little more common than some people think. But like I said, there's no way for me to test that, and I had abandoned psychology when I was younger in trade for other sciences, so I'm hardly qualified on the subject myself. lol

Self Gluowned....?

 

[Toxin]

In actuality, I have had a lot of dreams that I live out the day after they occur. Usually I'd complete write it off as coincidence, but sometimes they are such ridiculous improbabilities I can't help but think about them.

Like once, after I hadn't spoken, talked, even thought about a girl for six months. I had a dream that she and her boyfriend broke up, and then part of the dream was walking down the street with her, then another part was hugging her, and I remembered having my hand on the doorknob of her house to have someone else grab my shoulder.

The next day, I walked down the street and there she was. We talked, and she mentioned her boyfriend dumped her. We walked down the same road. I ended up at her house, we talked for a while on her couch, then I hugged her before I left, which surprised her, and when I put my hand on the doorknob to leave she grabbed my shoulder, turned me around and hugged me back.

As I walked out the door, my mind was reeling as to how that could've been possible.

But I still don't believe in that stuff. Maybe severely accurate coincidences, but I won't lower myself to the level of the attention ****es on a lot of forums claiming to have psychic powers or be future superheroes.

If I were to ever do anything remotely similar to being a vigilante, I wouldn't be going with these crazy costumes. I would probably just wear kevlar, as much leather as possible over it, and probably a big hoodie or something to conceal myself.

And I DEFINITELY wouldn't be like all those ones on those links at the bottom of page 2 and be fat or never worked out in my life and attempt anything. I'm a cross-country runner and I've done parkour so I'm in very good shape, but even I wouldn't be confident about all these acrobatics.

 

[dusk20]

Almost like Deja Vu

 

[Toxin]

Almost like Deja Vu

Actually, that's the difference.

I've had severe cases of deja vu, and I think that's just coincidental memories of dreams that I can't clearly remember.

The dreams I had were so profoundly corporeal that I could remember them perfectly.

But seeing as they don't happen on a regular basis, I wouldn't classify myself as anything out of the ordinary. Everyone has strange things happen to them at times. Most are coincidences.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

In actuality, I have had a lot of dreams that I live out the day after they occur. Usually I'd complete write it off as coincidence, but sometimes they are such ridiculous improbabilities I can't help but think about them.

Like once, after I hadn't spoken, talked, even thought about a girl for six months. I had a dream that she and her boyfriend broke up, and then part of the dream was walking down the street with her, then another part was hugging her, and I remembered having my hand on the doorknob of her house to have someone else grab my shoulder.

The next day, I walked down the street and there she was. We talked, and she mentioned her boyfriend dumped her. We walked down the same road. I ended up at her house, we talked for a while on her couch, then I hugged her before I left, which surprised her, and when I put my hand on the doorknob to leave she grabbed my shoulder, turned me around and hugged me back.

As I walked out the door, my mind was reeling as to how that could've been possible.

But I still don't believe in that stuff. Maybe severely accurate coincidences, but I won't lower myself to the level of the attention ****es on a lot of forums claiming to have psychic powers or be future superheroes.

If I were to ever do anything remotely similar to being a vigilante, I wouldn't be going with these crazy costumes. I would probably just wear kevlar, as much leather as possible over it, and probably a big hoodie or something to conceal myself.

And I DEFINITELY wouldn't be like all those ones on those links at the bottom of page 2 and be fat or never worked out in my life and attempt anything. I'm a cross-country runner and I've done parkour so I'm in very good shape, but even I wouldn't be confident about all these acrobatics.

That's an oddly descriptive dream. Most memorized dreams are usually only few cut seconds of sequences here and there. And even then, it could still be a new memory auto jammed into an old memory. It's like when you're under hypnosis, and you can literally imprint a new memory over an old one, and your brain will automatically fit other memories to that one.

 

[The Question]

Well, I mean, did the day change radically from the last per chance? If so, then I'd be more inclined to lean in your favour. But if it's something you've done in the past week, chances are you've had a few dreams about it by now. Even conversations with the person sitting in front of you in high school are a little more common than some people think. But like I said, there's no way for me to test that, and I had abandoned psychology when I was younger in trade for other sciences, so I'm hardly qualified on the subject myself. lol

Self Gluowned....?

I don't know, really. The similarities tend to be a little hard to describe, but they're little details that make situations unique unto themselves, even if they're commonplace. It's kind of hard to explain, really.

 

[Toxin]

That's an oddly descriptive dream. Most memorized dreams are usually only few cut seconds of sequences here and there. And even then, it could still be a new memory auto jammed into an old memory. It's like when you're under hypnosis, and you can literally imprint a new memory over an old one, and your brain will automatically fit other memories to that one.

It was really profound. You're right, it must have to have something to do with memories. After all, I did have memories of everything that happened in the dream. It was just strange to me that there was the coincidence of it happening the next day.

I think a lot of people have similar things happen to them, and many mistake it even further as being some sort of supernatural power.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Well, I DO know for a fact that you literally redream everything you do the day prior and think as well. And usually other crazy stuff happens in dream states, usually as a blend of memories and creativity. I mean, I'm definitely not going to discount it as, "Impossible", but I don't want to just say, "Oh yeah, there's more than enough 'first hand experiences' for it to be wrong."

Because you can't quite literally do what you did in the past. I mean, there's no way you did all of those things with her in a similar sequence (though I doubt you remember the sequence perfectly from the dream), and such in the same day prior to that one. There's definitely something there, I just don't think there's an accurate way to put it yet.