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  1. Punitore Registered

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    ..i read that there's a logan's flashback of his childhood or maybe a dream where he's 12 and is getting beaten by some guys and that's when he pops out his bone claws for the first time.. but the thing is that it says they assaulted him because his father robbed a ..macdonald's or something... were there already such things in the XIX century? ..i can say i'm totally disappointed if they are not setting logan's birth in the XIX century.
     
  2. X-Maniac High Evolutionary

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    I can say you're mad if you think they'd set it in the 'XIX century.'

    Who would he fight back then? Napoleon? Queen Victoria?

    It's probably far too much of a stretch for movie realism to go back to that era. But I don't know how old he is supposed to be in the movies.
     
  3. Figs Registered

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    Robbed a Mcdonalds???

    Where in the hell did you hear this info from?
     
  4. The Original Bamfer Big, Bald and Beautiful

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    They mentioned that he could be older than the Professor in X1. And that was about the most they gave away about his age, I think.
     
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    no of course i wouldn't want the whole movie set in that century but just a couple of flashbacks that involve him in different eras ..world war II for example, just some flashback... it doesn't make any sense for me to make a movie about the origins of wolverine making him the same age he appears to be.. atleast don't show anything about his childhood and make another crappy x-men 3 without ruining too much of the character if you have to do it.. and if it's not 1800 ok ..1900? but don't make a 35 or 40 years old wolverine, it would suck..
    the right word was autogrill not macdonald's... road side cafe or something then ..cars and trucks drivers that stop there to eat.
     
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    I totaly understand your point, i am a big fan of wolverine and have read origin many times. And when i read the new script i have to admit i was a little disapointed. i guess i expected flashbacks going back to the 1800's. Some implemenation of Dog being sabertooth, maybe a flashback of his father dieing, him killing logan, his mother shooting herself. Good stuff that would make drama in a movie. Instead they movierized it. Which im ok with only because the movie on a whole will be good i know. We cant have everything the way we want can we guys.
     
  7. X-Maniac High Evolutionary

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    We don't yet know exactly what is in the movie.

    But it may seem a stretch to make Wolverine 200 years old. It could be done, but I'm not sure it would work for a mainstream audience as it's very extreme. As extreme as Hulk leaping four miles across the desert at a time, for instance. Keeping it more real will make the character more relatable.
     
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    5 years ago i would not have agreed with you. Its funny, being a little older and tad bit wiser i have to agree with you. Not that it is too much a strech that wolverine is that old. I mean in comics of late they have discussed this so much! they even had a whole series of him discovering what happend to his older brother which showed both of their age's for what they are.....BUT like you said its better that the viewers should be able to relate to the movie and not go too far off into comic land. Lets face it us comic folk have our own version of whats too far fetched and then theres the rest of the people who's idea of far fetched is no biggy for us. lol
     
  9. the a1ant Awesome

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    In the 2006 script, Logan's dad robbed a truck stop and the boys who beat him up are football players.

    I would prefer them to go far back - and maybe they will :confused:. Like TNC said, Jean mentioned he could be older than Professor X...what year do you think he [Xavier] was a 12 year old boy? I'm too lazy to do the math :p
     
  10. X-Maniac High Evolutionary

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    Xavier and Magneto must be in their late 60s. Magneto was a child in 1939, aged about 10 ? Which would mean Magneto was born in the late 1920s. Xavier must be a similar age.

    So Wolverine, if he was older than Xavier, would be born before the 1920s.

    At least, that's my rough estimation. Anyone else?

    What year does the comicbook Origins series put Logan's birth? What era is his childhood in?
     
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    i dought they will go back further. i read the whole football player fight scene too and thats why i really at first got disapointed. I mean thats barely pushing it back with age. The thing is with logan that he stoped ageing normally around the age of 15.......so reguardless of how you slice the age factor this script does not really keep origin in mind.

    BUT this story reminds me alot of earlier issues of logan haveing flashbacks of himself as a child, being with sliver fox, a log cabin and a man who looks alot like sabertooth being his father. Later is was said that those memories were just all mixed up because of his healing factors. But this script is so much like that whole 2 comic story. in that sabertooth rapes and kills silverfox on her birthday. and Logan in that just like the movie chops lumber for a living.

    WHAT really gets me about this script is that logan volinteers for the Weapon X program!! oh come on now.....alteast dont do that to us. Thats the only part i dont like so far...but.im just happy we get a wolverine movie lol
     
  12. X-Maniac High Evolutionary

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    But Stryker said in X2 that Logan volunteered for the procedure. They can't really contradict that.
     
  13. the a1ant Awesome

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    Found this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_(comic)
     
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    As pointed out, Wolverine's memories are so messed up, I guess this won't interfere with the beauty of the canonical origin.
     
  16. Johnny Israel Provider of Awesome

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    I haven't read any of origins, so if it's there or elsewhere just let me know, but I always thought Logan did volunteer for the procedure.
     
  17. RonStoppablefan Harry Potter fan

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    I'd love some good flashbacks of his past, maybe a few at least not a whole bunch becuase than that would take up the whole movie. So I would like to see him as a teen.
     
  18. Nightmare "Kill Them All"

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    I wouldnt, 12 year old flash back. Then as an adult is fine.

    Dont know about robbing a mcdonalds though. That just sounds lame.
     
  19. I7eIVIoNBoY Megahero

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    who the f*** robs a mcdonalds anyways??? lol
     
  20. November Rain Single Mother

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    I would actually enjoy a mcdonalds being robbed in the 19th century, it would show his memories are ****ed and the viewer doesn't know what to trust.
     
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    He did. If you read the 'Weapon X' story as well as in some random X-men issues in the past it's been mentioned. He didn't know exactly what he was volunteering for, just that being part of that program basically meant they had you by the balls.
     
  22. Juha Maybe I should retire

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    I kinda hope that there's no "this is how I discovered my abilities" scenes in the movie. I dunno know...I just think the more Wolverine remains as a man of mystery, the better.
     
  23. Johnny Israel Provider of Awesome

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    That's what I thought. My memory ironically is always rusty when it comes to wolverine. Anyway, Thank you for the affirmation.
     
  24. Minus Shock Captain Simple Jack

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    According to most sources, hes just a little bit over 100 years old, he was born in the the 1880's so I thought.
     
  25. Logan's Runt Runtmuffin

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    In Origins (part II), the grave of his older brother says 1885-1897, so its safe to say he was born after 1885. If you take 'The End' seriously as part of canon, his older brother was around to see him born, so that would set his birth before 1897.
     

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