Is orgins still apart of the timeline now?

Discussion in 'The Wolverine' started by bhayes, Oct 26, 2012.

  1. JerseyJoker

    JerseyJoker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2004
    Messages:
    1,853
    Likes Received:
    0
    The use of bone claws were good ways to book end this film i thought. Showing where Logan came from pre-Weapon X and where is he going to be heading into DOFP.
     
    #126
  2. psylockolussus

    psylockolussus Well-Known Mutant

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2004
    Messages:
    36,059
    Likes Received:
    45
    I would like to see Wolverine's bone claws in DOFP!
     
    #127
  3. Spider-Vader

    Spider-Vader Mercin' & Workin'

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2007
    Messages:
    12,397
    Likes Received:
    0
    I think they can retcon Origins easily. Infact, it'd make the canon make more sense. I didn't see any references to it in The Wolverine; so were good.
     
    #128
  4. The Infernal

    The Infernal Mky Mk

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2005
    Messages:
    9,620
    Likes Received:
    18
    I don't see how they could work round that at this point. The bone claws were an interesting note in The Wolverine.
     
    #129
  5. Gianakin_

    Gianakin_ SW Prequels Defender

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2006
    Messages:
    21,479
    Likes Received:
    0
    People should REALLY prepare themselves for a total X-retcon next year.
     
    #130
  6. psylockolussus

    psylockolussus Well-Known Mutant

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2004
    Messages:
    36,059
    Likes Received:
    45
    I'm scared for that!
     
    #131
  7. DigificWriter

    DigificWriter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2002
    Messages:
    7,692
    Likes Received:
    0
    Why? Nothing I've seen suggests anything of the sort.
     
    #132
  8. Gianakin_

    Gianakin_ SW Prequels Defender

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2006
    Messages:
    21,479
    Likes Received:
    0
    It's far harder to retcon ceertain stuff by means of time travel. I mean, either they retcon jsut the Trask/Sentinel stuff and keep every existing X-movie intact (fine by me, after seeing TW), or they go for everything psot-70s-DoFP. To retcon just XMOW and X3 (and thus, TW, too) is... tricky.
     
    #133
  9. The Infernal

    The Infernal Mky Mk

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2005
    Messages:
    9,620
    Likes Received:
    18
    Bryan Singer has already said several times that he will be 'fixing things'. I think it's safe to say that the time travel will be changing some of the things of X3 at the very least.
     
    #134
  10. Gianakin_

    Gianakin_ SW Prequels Defender

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2006
    Messages:
    21,479
    Likes Received:
    0
    I can wait and see. Actually, I can't, but you know what I mean.:woot:
     
    #135
  11. Nell2ThaIzzay

    Nell2ThaIzzay Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2005
    Messages:
    16,633
    Likes Received:
    0
    Well, Kayla for one.

    X-Men Origins: Wolverine absolutely is part of the timeline. There's really no valid argument against it at this point.
     
    #136
  12. BH/HHH

    BH/HHH You Are My World

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2004
    Messages:
    28,841
    Likes Received:
    21
    Its weird the fixing things angle cause I wouldn't want him to change the end of X3 in terms of Logan killing Jean cause then it makes the Wolverine obselete really.
     
    #137
  13. Lord

    Lord All Mighty

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2011
    Messages:
    15,505
    Likes Received:
    1
    When did they reference Kayla?
     
    #138
  14. Gianakin_

    Gianakin_ SW Prequels Defender

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2006
    Messages:
    21,479
    Likes Received:
    0
    Right before he wakes up, after being captured by the ninjas. We hear him in a flashback shouting "Kayla".
     
    #139
  15. Lord

    Lord All Mighty

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2011
    Messages:
    15,505
    Likes Received:
    1
    Oh, then i guess this s*** is canon

    [​IMG]
     
    #140
  16. Gianakin_

    Gianakin_ SW Prequels Defender

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2006
    Messages:
    21,479
    Likes Received:
    0
    For now, yes. Everything's canon.
     
    #141
  17. MoPlaYa

    MoPlaYa Crazy Guy

    Joined:
    May 26, 2005
    Messages:
    5,077
    Likes Received:
    0
    Everything is canon until DOFP fixes a few things...lol
     
    #142
  18. Gianakin_

    Gianakin_ SW Prequels Defender

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2006
    Messages:
    21,479
    Likes Received:
    0
    Precisely.
     
    #143
  19. Nell2ThaIzzay

    Nell2ThaIzzay Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2005
    Messages:
    16,633
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yup.

    Always was, always will be. There's no reason to believe otherwise.

    I also doubt that Days of Future Past is going to go out of it's way to undo all the things the fanboys hate.

    It would make no sense for them to go through with The Wolverine, which not only doesn't contradict X-Men: The Last Stand or X-Men Origins: Wolverine, but actually is specific in confirming them, all the while knowing that Days of Future Past was coming out in a year to undo it all.

    There will be an explanation as to why Magneto has his powers and Xavier is alive, and I would imagine that will be the bulk of the "retconning".

    The last 2 movies in the series have gone out of their way to confirm and connect to the previous movies - X-Men: First Class blatantly referencing the trilogy, particularly X-Men, and to a lesser extent X2 and X-Men: The Last Stand, while The Wolverine blatantly referenced and connected to X-Men: The Last Stand and made lots of references to X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

    There would be no reason for them to spend 2 movies connecting to the rest of the series, even further establishing all the movies as interconnected, if they were planning on undoing it all with Days of Future Past.
     
    #144
  20. The Infernal

    The Infernal Mky Mk

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2005
    Messages:
    9,620
    Likes Received:
    18
    DoFP isn't going to undo everything fanboys hate, but it seems pretty clear from the director's own words that he will be changing a couple of things. He won't rewrite entire movies, but I can imagine one or two major things like Cyclops death may be undone in an alternative future (or however he chooses to address any changes).
     
    #145
  21. Nell2ThaIzzay

    Nell2ThaIzzay Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2005
    Messages:
    16,633
    Likes Received:
    0
    I would imagine that Singer's "fixing" comment is in regards to Xavier, Magneto, and possibly Rogue.

    There's no actor even cast as Cyclops in the film, so I doubt they undo that. Unless Marsden and Famke have been secretly cast, I wouldn't expect much undoing outside of Xavier, Magneto, and Rogue.
     
    #146
  22. DigificWriter

    DigificWriter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2002
    Messages:
    7,692
    Likes Received:
    0
    Singer's basically flat-out said that he's going to maintain at least SOME of the existing continuity, so completely tossing everything that happened from 1973 on - or tossing out just the events of O:W or TLS - isn't likely to happen.

    What I do think is likely to happen is that he resurrects certain characters and offers an explanation for certain things that fans continue to complain about (Xavier walking), and makes some changes to the events of TLS so that they happened, but they happened in a slightly different way to what we saw.

    Someone posted the following in a thread I started in the DoFP forums, and it's something that I not only think could very possibly happen, it also very much fits into what Singer's said about what he wants to do insofar as the timetravel and 'fixing some things' is concerned:

     
    #147
  23. BlackFox

    BlackFox Red devil

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2012
    Messages:
    8,840
    Likes Received:
    2
    Is anyone else concerned that Logan is going to go back to being a ***** cat in DoFP as its tone is not likely going to be the same as The Wolverine.

    After getting the character finally right I'm a bit concerned he's going to be neutered in Singers film.

    Is he going to be able to make the transition back to a team player after a very different solo outing?
     
    #148
  24. The Infernal

    The Infernal Mky Mk

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2005
    Messages:
    9,620
    Likes Received:
    18
    Technically Ratner already did the fixing with those characters. From what I've read about the Xavier scene at least it seemed like Ratner's attempt to save Xavier from that fate since he didn't seem to have the choice not to have Dark Phoenix vapourise him.

    As for Rogue and Magneto. The cure was already shown not to have worked properly. Talking to my brother, who is a very casual viewer in my opinion, he was by no means surprised at seeing Magneto again and very quickly brought up the X3 scene with Magneto displaying some power at the end.

    Aside from that. Singer by no means spells out what will be fixed. It really could be anything at this point. As far as Cyclops goes that is just part of my own speculation (though there is unconfirmed rumours of Marsden traveling with Halle Berry).
     
    #149
  25. Chaplin1914

    Chaplin1914 New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2013
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Outside of Sabretooth, I'd say they could just ignore ORIGINS all together.
     
    #150

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "afb8e5d7348ab9e99f73cba908f10802"