Is the over reliance on humour a problem in the MCU

[BH/HHH]

I've seen you post this several times lately. If you don't want people to be antagonistic in their replies....don't be antagonistic in your posting.


My point was.....if someone is going to go to through the process of creating a thread.....put it in the right place to begin with.

Ok fair point but I didn't go calling anyone a prick or something worse.

But like I said he admitted his mistake so it could just as easily been moved but anyway it doesn't matter anymore.

 

[C. Lee]

It's no more an opionated a title as 'Why can't DC Get It Right?' now is it? So why is that thread alright where the other was deleted?

It wasn't all Marvel bashing whatsoever, I even posted pretty much exactly what I did in my first post in here about times I thought they got it wrong. Actually now I think why can't people bash what they don't like about Marvel but it's ok for them to do that in the DC topics about DC films?

It's a DC thread in a DC forum where mostly DC fans will post.

I have not received one single complaint about the thread that was started in 2010. If you object to it so much why haven't you said so in the last 6 years?

 

[C. Lee]

Ok fair point but I didn't go calling anyone a prick or something worse.

And the guy who said that in this thread a little bit ago got an infraction for doing it.

 

[BH/HHH]

It's a DC thread in a DC forum where mostly DC fans will post.

I have not received one single complaint about the thread that was started in 2010. If you object to it so much why haven't you said so in the last 6 years?

But my point was its ok for that thread but not one that's the same for Marvel? And are you saying that threads are never created in the wrong places and moved on here?

Anyway I think this is getting out of hand and a little bit of crossed wires so I'm just gonna leave it there thanks

 

[C. Lee]

But my point was its ok for that thread but not one that's the same for Marvel? And are you saying that threads are never created in the wrong places and moved on here?

Anyway I think this is getting out of hand and a little bit of crossed wires so I'm just gonna leave it there thanks

The DC thread is in a DC forum. The Marvel thread was in a DC forum.....so....not the same thing.

Sometimes threads are moved....sometimes they are simply closed and trashed.

 

[Flint Marko]

The only movie where the humor ever bothered me was Thor: TDW.

 

[BH/HHH]

I didn't like the whole Hammertech is rubbish joke in IM2 either. Whilst it's fine for the set up when it carries on throughout the film and the whole Roadie's gun malfunction scene were that bridge too far I think some of the movies have stepped onto.

 

[First Avenger]

The only movie where the humor ever bothered me was Thor: TDW.

Darcy and co bothered me a lot during act 3. So glad they are not coming back for Ragnarok.

 

[Flint Marko]

Darcy and co bothered me a lot during act 3. So glad they are not coming back for Ragnarok.

Yeah, I've pretty much enjoyed the humor in each movie even though it's laid on a little thick at times, but Darcy and co, along with Thor riding the subway train, was the first time I felt the jokes were both misplaced and not funny.

 

[Zarex]

Hated the "Its terribly well balanced" exchange between Thor and Vision in Age of Ultron, mostly because it relied on Ultron being Mjolnired completely out of frame. Which made Ultron look weak and contradicted what we learned about a Uru-Vibranium clash from the prior Avengers film. If Ultron Prime shrugged off a few attacks before the Scarlet Witch provided the killing blow, A:AOU would rate much higher in my opinion.

Loved Darcy, but I am glad to see her go.

 

[TeeKay]

Hated the "Its terribly well balanced" exchange between Thor and Vision in Age of Ultron, mostly because it relied on Ultron being Mjolnired completely out of frame. Which made Ultron look weak and contradicted what we learned about a Uru-Vibranium clash from the prior Avengers film. If Ultron Prime shrugged off a few attacks before the Scarlet Witch provided the killing blow, A:AOU would rate much higher in my opinion.

Loved Darcy, but I am glad to see her go.

Well if there's too much weight you lose power on the swing so.. For me it's those little character moments that make the Avengers enjoyable for me. Yeah I agree though, Ultron was too weak and too much of a sacrifice to service the story imo.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Thor Dark Dark world and Age of ultron are only movies where humour was problem. Rest of time Marvel do great with humour.

 

[BH/HHH]

I think Ultron might have been better left until after all the Thanos stuff had wrapped personally

 

[Xrated48]

Darcy and co bothered me a lot during act 3. So glad they are not coming back for Ragnarok.

Ikr

 

[Zarex]

I think Ultron might have been better left until after all the Thanos stuff had wrapped personally

Ultron is more a pure Avengers antagonist than Thanos, and with Kang currently (and oddly) over at FOX the killer AI made the most sense. Limit the Ultron drones to a half-dozen or so highly formidable bots while powering up Ultron Prime and I think A:AOU goes from solid follow-up to MCU classic.

 

[BH/HHH]

Ultron is more a pure Avengers antagonist than Thanos, and with Kang currently (and oddly) over at FOX the killer AI made the most sense. Limit the Ultron drones to a half-dozen or so highly formidable bots while powering up Ultron Prime and I think A:AOU goes from solid follow-up to MCU classic.

I just think any villain that's done with Thanos shadow looming over just feels like abit like they had to give them something to do so here it is. I think it would have been better to use Ultron when they've beaten Thanos. Then he would have been simply a villain for a distraction. I disagree on that last live but each to their own.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Yeah, I've pretty much enjoyed the humor in each movie even though it's laid on a little thick at times, but Darcy and co, along with Thor riding the subway train, was the first time I felt the jokes were both misplaced and not funny.

Actually, I thought the Thor on the train bit was hilarious. I liked the chaotic nature of the realm travelling and things randomly showing up and such. Added charm the TDW that I felt if it was more of a straight ending/climax wouldn't have worked, and would have made the film even more overall meh.

 

[Xeno]

Yeah, I've pretty much enjoyed the humor in each movie even though it's laid on a little thick at times, but Darcy and co, along with Thor riding the subway train, was the first time I felt the jokes were both misplaced and not funny.

TDW is the only MCU film that I actively hate. Darcy and her intern were so unfunny and unnecessary to the plot. The Thor franchise is the only one that was saddled with comic relief characters from the start. In every other film, the comedy arose from character, which is an organic way to incorporate humor. There was never any need for Darcy and her friend to even be in the movie, much less at the center of the action. And if I never see Stellan Skarsgard's pasty ass again, it'll be too soon.

 

[Flint Marko]

Actually, I thought the Thor on the train bit was hilarious. I liked the chaotic nature of the realm travelling and things randomly showing up and such. Added charm the TDW that I felt if it was more of a straight ending/climax wouldn't have worked, and would have made the film even more overall meh.

Oh I really enjoyed this as well, it's just the Thor on the train bit I could live without. I think what did it in for me was the train jerking and the woman falling into Thor, and then he gives this big goofy smile... it just didn't work for me.

 

[Drizzle]

I've brought this up before in another thread looking back on it, but I think the one MCU movie where the humor is laid on a little too thick is Age of Ultron. I didn't mind it so much when I first saw it. Hell, I don't even mind the Ultron quips or the one-liners between the Avengers in the beginning since they're just dispatching a bunch of Hydra goons. What bugs me is that during the third act when Sokovia is getting launched into orbit, the humor level is still pretty high when it should have been brought down quite a few notches. People are dying and there's Stark quipping about Banner and Natasha playing "hide the zucchini" and then you have Widow and Hawkeye driving around non-chalantly talking about remodeling his home in the middle of a warzone. It's even more ridiculous when you think about the outcome of the damage that we see in Civil War. Nothing's wrong with humor but it gets to be too much in the third act of AOU. That being said, it doesn't hinder my enjoyment of the movie.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I didn't like the "language" joke from AoU. It was funny the first time in Sokovia, but they just beat it into the ground by going back to it for the rest of the movie.

 

[Finarfiniel]

Actually, I thought the Thor on the train bit was hilarious. I liked the chaotic nature of the realm travelling and things randomly showing up and such. Added charm the TDW that I felt if it was more of a straight ending/climax wouldn't have worked, and would have made the film even more overall meh.

My favourite random little blink and you miss it moment in TDW is Malekith's 'oh crap' face when he and Thor dimension hop and end up falling out of the sky and sliding down the St Mary Axe (or 'The Gherkin' as we Brits call it) skyscraper face first. I don't know why, it always makes me laugh.

 

[Xrated48]

I didn't like the "language" joke from AoU. It was funny the first time in Sokovia, but they just beat it into the ground by going back to it for the rest of the movie.

Yeah I really didn't like that joke either as I felt it was something cap would not say.

 

[Batmannerism]

In a word..... NO !

As a hard core DC fan I can honestly say that Marvel films, at the moment are generally better because they handle humour so well.

Humour can be slapstick, or sarcastic or silly or subtle or dark, but it's always hard to get right ( don't believe me ? Watch a Pauly Shore movie, any of them)

If you get humour wrong, in terms of timing or execution, it falls totally flat or feels forced.


But if you get it right....

E.g. Thor , and everything to do with him. While he looks tough on the pages of a comic, when you transpose that stuff to live action it's simply ridiculous. The genius of Thor's characterisation is that the studio knows this, and as a result doesn't take Thor, or have Thor take himself, too seriously.

seen that "Team Thor" mock-doc ? It's ****ing hilarious.

In fact the same could really be said for the whole skintight costume and cape genre - it's somewhat ridiculous - which doesn't mean it can't be inspiring, moving, insightful and occasionally tragic.

Superman the movie, perfect example.

Anyway, I have greatly enjoyed the recent Marvel films ( from Avengers , onwards) because they handle humour so masterfully.

I wish DC would get over itself, stop worrying about being distinct from Marvel ( it already is, those classic DC characters are iconic) and learn something from Marvels approach and then go make some enjoyable and entertaining films ! And an injection of humour would be a good place to start.


Of course just IMO.

 

[Moridin]

Also the Quicksilver death scene where Hawkeye literally makes a one-liner while he's staring at Pietro's bullet-ridden body.

So glad Whedon's out of the picture. Russos know how to balance humor with drama.

That literally never happens.....

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