It's Begining to Look A Lot Like Loungemas

[Reek]

Supergirl

 

[jokesonm3]

 

[Roose Bolton]

Hank Henshaw....

 

[Reek]

Ash VS marvel/dc should happen.

 

[flickchick85]

It's better than shoveling snow, I admit. But it does make it feel less like the holidays.

I live in an apartment which I don't have to shovel myself, so I'd rather have the cold.

 

[dude stannis]

Apartment.... 23?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

More, or less frustrating than what CW is doing with FLASH and ARROW?

Ooh... That's dirty pool but... No. Not even close. The X-Men films are at least competently written, have good production values ect. and there isn't a total undermining of the lead characters baked into their approach. I REALLY enjoyed Flash last season, despite hiccups along the way because, hey, first season shake downs, right? But this season is having the SAME issues, and it's too formulaic. Look, ALL super hero stories are formulaic to one degree or the other but JESUS Berlanti, change it up once in a while. I can't cotton to the idea at this point that the DCTVU is inherently better than the DCEU cause, reasons attitude that a lot of posters here have. No... Just no, If someone had that idea that team up crossover should have wiped that from their mind.

I love Jackman as Logan but... The X-Men films are, as a fan of the comic, a bit, same ole' each time out. How many times are they going to do a film where Erik teams with them only to betray them? How many times are we going to have to go through punking Scott to give Wolverine the spotlight? I also just feel the movies low ball too many of the characters' powers NOT named Magneto. Finally... I think that the casting has had some knock it out of the park choices (Xavier, Mags, Logan, Rogue) and a lot more lackluster or bad ones. I hope that we get something very different this time out, again, as much as I like Jackman in the role, it will be nice to see another X-Men movie where he's not the center. Truth be told I think I might wait for APOCALYPSE to get onto disc or On Demand since I've never really liked that character at all.

Oh, and as for Jackman's Logan in general, I think the shame in the future is going to be someone making a REALLY strong Wolverine solo film that is universally praised and a big hit, but a lot of us will be, "Damn... Why could Jackman have been in this one?"

 

[flickchick85]

They can't be that frustrating.

They are pretty darn frustrating.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Supergirl

That show is proof that it's not about tone but execution. Be light and fun. Be happy go lucky with an idealist protagonist... But for Zod's sake, DO THAT WELL. Berlanti's team is grating on me big time. I seriously am thinking of dropping FLASH altogether.

 

[dude stannis]

They are pretty darn frustrating.

You're pretty...

Ok, ok, I'll stop.

 

[squeekness]

Lol, that's awesome.

 

[jokesonm3]

I wanna know what the story is behind that tiger and what it did to that cat to make it so mad.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Cat wants some Tiger Blood.

 

[flickchick85]

Apartment.... 23?

 

[Roose Bolton]

Ooh... That's dirty pool but... No. Not even close. The X-Men films are at least competently written, have good production values ect. and there isn't a total undermining of the lead characters baked into their approach. I REALLY enjoyed Flash last season, despite hiccups along the way because, hey, first season shake downs, right? But this season is having the SAME issues, and it's too formulaic. Look, ALL super hero stories are formulaic to one degree or the other but JESUS Berlanti, change it up once in a while. I can't cotton to the idea at this point that the DCTVU is inherently better than the DCEU cause, reasons attitude that a lot of posters here have. No... Just no, If someone had that idea that team up crossover should have wiped that from their mind.

I love Jackman as Logan but... The X-Men films are, as a fan of the comic, a bit, same ole' each time out. How many times are they going to do a film where Erik teams with them only to betray them? How many times are we going to have to go through punking Scott to give Wolverine the spotlight? I also just feel the movies low ball too many of the characters' powers NOT named Magneto. Finally... I think that the casting has had some knock it out of the park choices (Xavier, Mags, Logan, Rogue) and a lot more lackluster or bad ones. I hope that we get something very different this time out, again, as much as I like Jackman in the role, it will be nice to see another X-Men movie where he's not the center. Truth be told I think I might wait for APOCALYPSE to get onto disc or On Demand since I've never really liked that character at all.

Oh, and as for Jackman's Logan in general, I think the shame in the future is going to be someone making a REALLY strong Wolverine solo film that is universally praised and a big hit, but a lot of us will be, "Damn... Why could Jackman have been in this one?"

We might still get that with his swan song performance. Him, Mangold, possibly Liev Schrieber returning as Victor Creed, the ingredients are there. I mean personally I thought the Wolverine was a knockout film even if it wasn't perfect. If they can smooth out the bumps (the last act of the previous one) I think they can go out on a high note.

In terms of the X Men films themselves, I look at DOFP for instance, and yeah it has Wolverine as a central character and it had the formula of Magneto betraying them, but ultimately that film is about Charles Xavier and it's his character arc carries the film. I kind of view the thematic and emotional elements of the story as something that supersedes the rest. The film felt like a love letter to Xavier's dream and McAvoy delivered one hell of a performance, so I personally really dug it. At least enough to see them continue that with Apocalpse.

But in regards to CW,do you have any inclination towards Heroes of Tomorrow and those characters? And what about Gotham? How do you view that?

 

[squeekness]

I live in an apartment which I don't have to shovel myself, so I'd rather have the cold.

I love my house, just not the outside maintenance so much. Thank goodness my husband doesn't mind doing that.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Replace "Wolverine" with "Iron Man" and "Jackman" with "Downey" and Fox with Marvel and you have my feelings exactly. I wish that Marvel had the depth and craft of the X-Men films.

That's a hilarious position to take considering you can't name one FOX-Men movie without Jackman whereas over half of the MCU has nothing to do with RDJ

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

We might still get that with his swan song performance. Him, Mangold, possibly Liev Schrieber returning as Victor Creed, the ingredients are there. I mean personally I thought the Wolverine was a knockout film even if it wasn't perfect. If they can smooth out the bumps (the last act of the previous one) I think they can go out on a high note.

In terms of the X Men films themselves, I look at DOFP for instance, and yeah it has Wolverine as a central character and it had the formula of Magneto betraying them, but ultimately that film is about Charles Xavier and it's his character arc carries the film. I kind of view the thematic and emotional elements of the story as something that supersedes the rest. The film felt like a love letter to Xavier's dream and McAvoy delivered one hell of a performance, so I personally really dug it. At least enough to see them continue that with Apocalpse.

But in regards to CW,do you have any inclination towards Heroes of Tomorrow and those characters? And what about Gotham? How do you view that?

If the new episodes of Flash after the break don't start the ball moving in terms of the Zoom plot ect., I really may drop it. And if that happens, I'm not even going to give LOT a shot. I mean... I put up with Supergirl until the Red Tornado episode and didn't enjoy one single solid minute. And I have to believe that SG has a bigger budget than LOT. I will say, that while there have been stories like LOT before, for a Super Hero adaptation on tv, it's an original take I suppose... But given that the sprawling cast of Berlanti's shows is one of my problems, and I DETESTED the hell out of the team up episodes two week back... Yeah, I'm not inclined to be forgiving with LOT I think.

As for Gotham... I actually liked the first season more than this one, but even then... Yeah... It is what it is and I don't find myself yelling at the screen like the Berlanti shows. Maybe it would be different if it were a full on "Batman" weekly show, but as it's not quite that, I forgive it being it's own thing. Still... I preferred it before it became more like the Burton/Schumacher take on Gotham City.

But strokes and folks. I get liking or disliking any or all of these shows.

 

[Roose Bolton]

That's a hilarious position to take considering you can't name one FOX-Men movie without Jackman whereas over half of the MCU has nothing to do with RDJ

Deadpool. And I suppose a five second cameo in First Class equates to him dominating the film in your mind.

You good?

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Deadpool. And I suppose a five second cameo in First Class equates to him dominating the film in your mind.

You good?

Considering Deadpool isn't out yet you have no idea if he has a cameo in there and I certainly wouldn't put it past Fox. So literally all of the FOX-Men movies with maybe the exception of one that is barely an X-property has Jackman in some form. Most of the movies are completely dominated by Logan all save the aforementioned cameo. I could run down a list of MCU films that don't even hint at RDJ in comparison. So yeah, we're good bruh.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

The sexual tension is palpable.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I just finished Jessica Jones, good show. I liked DD better, but JJ was dark as hell which was cool for the MCU

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I loved both, but I actually prefer the JJ final episode to the DD one.

 

[Napoleon]

TBH I never saw Logan as the main character in DOFP. To me he felt more like the T-800 to Charles' John Connor if that makes sense. Sure he may have gotten a fair amount of screen time but he was more or less a POV character for the audience to experience the 70s setting and the relationship between Erik, Charles, and Raven.

 

[dude stannis]

Totally agreed. Logan was the audience surrogate in DOFP, he was there to be our eyes and voice. It was Charles' story.