James Bond: 007 - Spectre - Part 5

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What a year for Dave Batista outside of his failed WWE return. Spectre following Guardians of the Galaxy.
 
Interesting, what I read said that it started with the plane but continued on snowmobiles, however it might have changed as I also read Cargo plane now Snow plane.

Could've been an earlier draft. A lot of stuff got cut between the October and December drafts, including a second henchman.
 
I don't understand all this talk about how Blofeld should be 100% unlike Donald Pleasence because he was spoofed by Mike Myers. So the **** what??? Dr. Evil wasn't funny and ridiculous because he faithfully mimicked Donald Pleasence, he was funny and ridiculous because he did crazy and stupid things that Pleasence's Blofeld would never do in a million years. Did Pleasance ever tell his test-tube son to "zip it" in a variety of ways? Did he ever get hit in the balls or spin around in a chair? Did he ever rap in prison with a rag tied around his head?

But fine, let's just discontinue every character because they were parodied and made to act stupid.
 
Well, in the leaks...

He gets a nastier version of the Donald Pleasence scar at the end

So it's not like they're totally ignoring or pushing that portrayal away. But in that same Token, Donald Pleasence wasn't the end-all-be-all of Blofeld's either, so they shouldn't feel the need to be a slave to that version.
 
I don't understand all this talk about how Blofeld should be 100% unlike Donald Pleasence because he was spoofed by Mike Myers. So the **** what??? Dr. Evil wasn't funny and ridiculous because he faithfully mimicked Donald Pleasence, he was funny and ridiculous because he did crazy and stupid things that Pleasence's Blofeld would never do in a million years. Did Pleasance ever tell his test-tube son to "zip it" in a variety of ways? Did he ever get hit in the balls or spin around in a chair? Did he ever rap in prison with a rag tied around his head?

But fine, let's just discontinue every character because they were parodied and made to act stupid.

Yeah, but it's not just about the Dr. Evil comparisons. The Pleasance version was so ripe for parody because it is the ridiculous camp version of the character. The reason why so many Bond fan are opposed to a renewal of that portrayal is because it bears very little relation and vastly inferior to how the character is portrayed in the original source material. It is like the Gene Hackman/Kevin Spacey version of Luthor. Light and campy with little connection to the source material, when the source material version of the character is arguably far more interesting, complex, and a worthy foe for our hero. Of course, people ant the Pleasance camp version jettisoned in favour of Fleming's psychopathic mastermind.
 
Yeah, but it's not just about the Dr. Evil comparisons. The Pleasance version was so ripe for parody because it is the ridiculous camp version of the character. The reason why so many Bond fan are opposed to a renewal of that portrayal is because it bears very little relation and vastly inferior to how the character is portrayed in the original source material. It is like the Gene Hackman/Kevin Spacey version of Luthor. Light and campy with little connection to the source material, when the source material version of the character is arguably far more interesting, complex, and a worthy foe for our hero. Of course, people ant the Pleasance camp version jettisoned in favour of Fleming's psychopathic mastermind.

Speaking of Lex and Blofeld, how fitting of Bruce Timm and Clancy Brown to model DCAU's Lex after Telly Savalas' Blofeld in demeanor and voice.

Plus there were times pre-YOLT/OHMSS/DAF that Blofeld did have hair going by the silhouette angles in FRWL & Thunderball so they play the with hair route well. As for the kitty, its a take or leave since those who loathe Dr. Evil fear that Mr. Bigglesworth tainted the legacy of Angora visually
 
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Both Pleasance and Savalas have their merits (wasn't a huge fan of Charles Gray myself). But different takes work in different versions/tones. For instance, Jack Nicholson's Joker wouldn't have worked in TDK, just like Cesar Romero's version wouldn't have worked in Batman 89. Terrence Stamp's Zod wouldn't have worked in MOS, and Michael Shannon probably wouldn't have worked in Superman II, and so on. Pleasance worked for that film, Savalas worked for OHMSS. But the Craig films have a very different feel/tone to them. So a new take on Blofeld would be best. Let Waltz (if he actually is playing Blofeld of course) do his own take on the character.
 
There haven't been a austin powers film since 2002 so them paradoying bond shouldn't be a factor anymore
 
Well, in the leaks...

He gets a nastier version of the Donald Pleasence scar at the end

So it's not like they're totally ignoring or pushing that portrayal away. But in that same Token, Donald Pleasence wasn't the end-all-be-all of Blofeld's either, so they shouldn't feel the need to be a slave to that version.

I'm not saying they have to do Blofeld like Pleasance, but "He was made fun of in Austin Powers" is not a good reason for avoiding that version. There are people saying every single aspect that the movies invented should be done away with, but what exactly is so campy about it? The Mao suit might be hard to explain away since Blofeld isn't Asian(although with the Kim Jongs wearing essentially the same thing, it's actually kind of relevant if you want to invoke that dictator vibe), but the baldness? Why not? Why can't he have a thing for cats? Hell, what's wrong with a facial scar? Yeah, I know he didn't look that way in the book but the movie version is what's iconic, just like a lot of the Eon tropes that didn't come from the books. Classic YOLT Blofeld done gritty really isn't such a paradox.
 
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I'm honestly not sure why this argument is being had, when two of the things you mentioned ARE being used with this new version when they easily could have just avoided all of it.

EON aren't using an exact copy of the Donald Pleasence version because of Austin Powers, they're doing it because thats just one version in a long line of Blofelds and because for a change they might want to utilize more of the untapped stuff from Ian Fleming's books, stuff that is markedly different from classic YOLT movie Blofeld.
 
If they want to go with James Bond falling in love again, i wish they had gone with the girl from Quantum of Solace, she had connections with Quantum/ SPECTRE already and would have made sence for her to bond with Bond (no pun intented), would also tie in this arc even more to the past films.

Either way, if they're trying to reach a final arc in here, i honestly hope not to see another reboot after this, even if the next actor has a different ethnicy, i don't it realy matters, and if they want to later do another multi arc story, i don't think they need to use Blofeld yet again, i'm sure they could come up with something else as interesting.
 
Well, there was a whole other novel after Fleming did the Blofeld trilogy. It's not difficult to say that after the whole climatic face off between Bond and his nemesis that he just continued on with his duty to his country, fighting the good fight and all that. Several people even theorized that Roger Moore's run on the character was him trying to full embrace his devil-may-care life as a spy after the whole Tracy/Blofeld saga.

And as for Camille, I think she worked better as someone who wasn't necessarily a romantic interest for Bond. She was just going on her own path of revenge that happened to align with Bond's own, their relationship was more interesting than anything romantic and pretty unique for someone like him.
 
On the subject of an American playing Bond, I could easily see the following actors pulling it off flawlessly given their resumes and talents:
Lee Pace
Chris Pine
Jeremy Renner
Mark Wahlberg
Elijah Wood
 
Elijah Wood? No, thanks!
I rather want the welsh guy Jonathan Rhys-Meyers. If Craig leaves before his fith film, he's the only one

But there are some American actors that over the years could have played the role. Adam West, Burt Reynolds or Robert Redford would all have nailed it. Take my word!
 
If Henry Cavill wasn't Superman, I would liked him as Bond or (Clive Owen before Daniel Craig got the gig)
 
^ Objections like that require explanations, or else they're just ' noise'.
 
On the subject of an American playing Bond, I could easily see the following actors pulling it off flawlessly given their resumes and talents:
Lee Pace
Chris Pine
Jeremy Renner
Mark Wahlberg
Elijah Wood
No offence but I think all those guys would make terrible Bonds.

Jake Gyllenhaal is the only American Actor I can currently think of who would make a cool Bond
Elijah Wood? No, thanks!
I rather want the welsh guy Jonathan Rhys-Meyers. If Craig leaves before his fith film, he's the only one

But there are some American actors that over the years could have played the role. Adam West, Burt Reynolds or Robert Redford would all have nailed it. Take my word!

Jonathan Rhys-Meyers is Irish
 
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