James Bond: 007 - Spectre - Part 5

[Jason Kane]

Since we're going to into missed opportunities territory, List away you Bond missed opportunities

 

[Black Narcissus]

For those of you interested.

The director and actor from The Artist did two Bond spoofs years ago. They were really great. The french Connery. Lawd.

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[A Necessary Evil]

Since we're going to into missed opportunities territory, List away you Bond missed opportunities

Moonraker. That book is awesome...the movie is not.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

You Only Live Twice. The book is equally ridiculous, but far more awesome. You call the re-adaptation Shatterhand. Can you imagine the garden of death in live action?

 

[Loki882]

Diamonds Are Forever. The attempt to do a really emotional film about Bond coming to terms with his wife's death and going after Blofeld. Instead we got, that.

Ditto to Quantum of Vesper's death.

The post-Goldeneye Brosnan films, for not being able to decide what kind of films they wanted to be.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

The botched follow up to OHMSS is easily my biggest missed opportunity from the franchise.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Diamonds Are Forever. The attempt to do a really emotional film about Bond coming to terms with his wife's death and going after Blofeld. Instead we got, that.

Ditto to Quantum of Vesper's death.

The post-Goldeneye Brosnan films, for not being able to decide what kind of films they wanted to be.

Quantum really suffered from the writer's strike. You could tell. They had a decent outline, but then the strike happened, and they couldn't figure out how to fill it out. Watching the movie, I could almost see them going,

"Okay, how do we get him from this point to the next?
"...Umm...add a big action sequence?"

It's too bad, because had that strike not happened I think it would have been a lot better.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Moonraker. That book is awesome...the movie is not.

Nazis make everything better!

 

[Doctor Evo]

It's also good for sniffing out disingenuous pseudo-intellectual pretentious **** with unwarranted senses of moral superiority.

If more conversations on the Hype! were like this, this place would be a lot more fun.

Now if anyone but a mod were to make this comment, it would be met with an immediate infraction. Funny how that works.

 

[Gold Samurai]

I like Toby Stephens but his mum Dame Maggie Smith is more intimidating on screen than he is.

Now there's an idea

An old lady as the villain

Helen mirren

Or

Dame Maggie smith?

 

[JAK®]

Helen Mirren as a Bond villain is an amazing idea.

 

[Airwings]

Now there's an idea

An old lady as the villain

Helen mirren

Or

Dame Maggie smith?

The villain doesn't have to be a physical threat. There are henchmen for that.

Maggie Smith as a mastermind. Will that be believable?

 

[Roose Bolton]

I feel like, Helen Mirren would have been really interesting right after the Queen came out. I think ever since Red came out the impact would be lessoned.

 

[jonathancrane]

I agree with the Warden of the North.

 

[chamber-music]

Kristen Scott Thomas would made a awesome and formidable Bond villain. Thomas was great in Only God Forgives.

 

[Jason Kane]

The botched follow up to OHMSS is easily my biggest missed opportunity from the franchise.

This. In a perfect timeline, DAF with Lazenby (minus Ronan O'Reilly's meddling), Hunt back in the director's seat and Maibaum penning the script being more in line with he book plus he Spang Brothers.

Other missed opportunities:

-Claudia Cardinale as a Bond Girl
-The Garden of Death; hoping SPECTRE or more likely Bond 25 will surprise us in bringing it on screen.

- Dalton's 3rd Bond outing had the Curse of Heaven's gate not bludgeoned UA and MGM by slow extension along with GA not being acceptive of him having been too comfortable with Moore (and Connery) for so long.

Brosnan doing his fifth and final Bond film. Could easily see it as his FYEO had 9/11 and the creative balls up with DAD not changed everything.

Not delaying QOS til 2009-2010 to stay clear of the writers strike for better execution of the plot.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Biggest missed opportunity:

Not having Sean Connery as Bond in On Her Majesty's Secret Service. If they had got Connery, it would be considered hands down the best Bond film. As it is now, it needs some better editing but Lazenby sinks the film down from great to just good.

 

[Jason Kane]

Biggest missed opportunity:

Not having Sean Connery as Bond in On Her Majesty's Secret Service. If they had got Connery, it would be considered hands down the best Bond film. As it is now, it needs some better editing but Lazenby sinks the film down from great to just good.

Had Cubby and Harry chose it to follow from Thunderball like the books' Blofeld Trilogy did without shattering continuity (OHMSS almost became Bond 4 as tagged at the end of Goldfinger). That and had Connery and the duo's relationship not went the way it did (plus the Japan paparassi and fans not gotten too carried away during the filiming of YOLT).

 

[Loki882]

I'm not sure that Connery would have worked in OHMSS honestly. One of the things that worked about the movie is that we got a more flawed and "human" Bond. A guy who DIDN'T have all of the answers, or a plan for EVERY situation. Heck there's a scene in that movie where he has no way out and just kind of sits down not knowing what to do. And Lazenby, his other issues aside, pulled off vulnerable Bond really well. I'm not sure that Connery would have done as well in that regard. Heck I'm not even sure that Connery would have let that happen, or the studio wouldn't have let that happen to him.

Other missed opportunities:

-Not recasting Moore after Octopussy. I personally feel like he should have quit after FYEO, it would have been a fitting sendoff. But he still kind or sort of hallway got away with it in OP. In AVTAK, he was just too old. He looked old, the ridiculous amount of REALLY obvious doubling during the action scene, the creepy/uncomfortable love scenes, etc. Plus, that final fight scene with Christopher Walken would have been epic if it were Dalton in the role. Moore beating Walken just wasn't convincing.

The criminal underuse of Gemma Arterton in QOS.

Not bringing back a former Bond girl in TND. The idea of Bond needing the help of a former flame was actually pretty good. But it would have been more effective if it had been a character that we'd actually SEEN before, as opposed to one just made up for that movie.

The Blofeld situation post-DAF (although that one really wasn't the filmmaker's fault).

 

[Loki882]

Kristen Scott Thomas would made a awesome and formidable Bond villain. Thomas was great in Only God Forgives.

I keep suggesting Rachel Weisz. Also Jessica Chastain, or Tilda Swinton, or Kate Winslet, etc.

 

[Jason Kane]

I'm not sure that Connery would have worked in OHMSS honestly. One of the things that worked about the movie is that we got a more flawed and "human" Bond. A guy who DIDN'T have all of the answers, or a plan for EVERY situation. Heck there's a scene in that movie where he has no way out and just kind of sits down not knowing what to do. And Lazenby, his other issues aside, pulled off vulnerable Bond really well. I'm not sure that Connery would have done as well in that regard. Heck I'm not even sure that Connery would have let that happen, or the studio wouldn't have let that happen to him.

Other missed opportunities:

-Not recasting Moore after Octopussy. I personally feel like he should have quit after FYEO, it would have been a fitting sendoff. But he still kind or sort of hallway got away with it in OP. In AVTAK, he was just too old. He looked old, the ridiculous amount of REALLY obvious doubling during the action scene, the creepy/uncomfortable love scenes, etc. Plus, that final fight scene with Christopher Walken would have been epic if it were Dalton in the role. Moore beating Walken just wasn't convincing.

The criminal underuse of Gemma Arterton in QOS.

Not bringing back a former Bond girl in TND. The idea of Bond needing the help of a former flame was actually pretty good. But it would have been more effective if it had been a character that we'd actually SEEN before, as opposed to one just made up for that movie.

The Blofeld situation post-DAF (although that one really wasn't the filmmaker's fault).

That'd be difficult to pull off with a past Bond Girl without playing the recast card let along the difficulty imagining any of them being married to Carver. Can anyone even picture Honey Rider, Stacey Sutton, Kara Milovy or Natalya actually being involved with a hammy multimedia maniac?

 

[JAK®]

Biggest missed opportunity:

Not having Sean Connery as Bond in On Her Majesty's Secret Service. If they had got Connery, it would be considered hands down the best Bond film. As it is now, it needs some better editing but Lazenby sinks the film down from great to just good.

The film spends too much time on Bond in disguise, dubbed over by another actor. That was the only thing I thought was wrong with Lazenby's performance; that a good chunk of it wasn't his. But Connery would have been better.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I rewatched Thunderball today (I got the 50th Anniversary Blu Ray for Christmas) and I loved it a lot more than I last watched it. It's just so damn fun and brimming with the confidence of a Bond picture and Connery is in top form. Connery is still the only Bond in its film history where there were three consecutive high quality Bond films .

 

[antonydelfini]

I rewatched Thunderball today (I got the 50th Anniversary Blu Ray for Christmas) and I loved it a lot more than I last watched it. It's just so damn fun and brimming with the confidence of a Bond picture and Connery is in top form. Connery is still the only Bond in its film history where there were three consecutive high quality Bond films .

Craig still has a chance to have 3 consecutive high quality Bond films with Skyfall, Spectre, and his fifth (last?) Bond movie. I hope it happens with him.

Connery had four consecutive high quality Bond movies for me (Dr. No- Thunderball).

 

[DyeLorean]

I still find fascinating how much money those movies made back in the day. Amazing numbers.