James Bond 24 - Part 2

[DyeLorean]

I'm watching Catch Me If You Can and there's a small bit that plays like a James Bond film. It is most likely the most Bond-ish we will ever get from Spielberg, but I think he may be good at it. He has a sense of spectacle, but also for small intimate scenes, as well as getting classic, iconic shots.

 

[MrMaooz]

TWINE was okay. Denise Richards is nice eye candy, but she kinda sucked. Oh, and there was a lot of action, but I got kind of bored with all the explosions. That almost never happens to me.

 

[Gort Baringa]

Before we got Daniel Craig's excellent Bond and Jason Bourne there were a series of bad 007 films. I thought Chain Reaction with Keanu Reeves and Morgan Freeman was quite good while these series of terrible films was being shown.

 

[vanson]

TWINE was okay. Denise Richards is nice eye candy, but she kinda sucked. Oh, and there was a lot of action, but I got kind of bored with all the explosions. That almost never happens to me.

I really enjoy the first 3 brosnan films.. TWINE has some fun stuff in it, TND has one of my favorite scenes ever ( Dr. Kaufman ) and goldeneye was my first bond in a cinema.. so i have a soft spot for that one

 

[Schlosser85]

Brosnan started out with a few good or at least decent outings, but they got into over-the-top campy mode really fast after that.

He was a good Bond though, it wasn't his fault.

 

[The Endless]

I think both Brosnan and Dalton are unfairly overlooked. Dalton you could totally believe was a stone cold killer and he did his own stunts, but might not have had the charm. Brosnan had charm by the bucket load but may have been seen to be not great physically.

Overall though both were good in my eyes.

 

[regwec]

I don't really buy Brosnan as "charming". He was too stiff for that, and often came across as sleazy, in my view.

I think Goldeneye is his only good movie.

 

[Schlosser85]

Dalton was extremely stiff and charmless, IMO. He was believable as a cold killer, but Craig also has that, plus a lot more charisma than Dalton.

 

[Dark Raven]

Dalton has played charming in other things. But he was trying to be more like the literary Bond and also his portrayal was like a reaction to Roger Moore's more campy one-liner approach, so it was quite an extreme pendulum swing.

Craig has the hindsight and benefit of Dalton having gone before him, and knowing how the public responded at the time. So his is probably slightly more balanced rather than being the pure cold assassin. Dalton paved the way for him though and was way ahead of his time.

Brosnan was very stiff and more like someone in a suit or watch commercial. He was all about posing and preening. He definitely lacked the physicality for the role.

 

[chamber-music]

Dalton was ahead of his time. Audiences were not ready for a more serious take on Bond they wanted more of Moore's type of Bond.

 

[Brian Braddock]

I'm watching Catch Me If You Can and there's a small bit that plays like a James Bond film. It is most likely the most Bond-ish we will ever get from Spielberg, but I think he may be good at it. He has a sense of spectacle, but also for small intimate scenes, as well as getting classic, iconic shots.

The suit fitting scene? Very Goldfinger-esque, if memory serves.

 

[DyeLorean]

The suit fitting scene? Very Goldfinger-esque, if memory serves.

Yep, that one. DiCaprio's character goes to see a Bond film, and after that he gets the same suit and the Aston Martin, with the Bond theme playing in the background. Very nice.

 

[redhawk23]

Yep, that one. DiCaprio's character goes to see a Bond film, and after that he gets the same suit and the Aston Martin, with the Bond theme playing in the background. Very nice.

When he buys the suit he uses "Fleming" as his fake name.

 

[Octoberist]

Dalton has played charming in other things. But he was trying to be more like the literary Bond and also his portrayal was like a reaction to Roger Moore's more campy one-liner approach, so it was quite an extreme pendulum swing.

Craig has the hindsight and benefit of Dalton having gone before him, and knowing how the public responded at the time. So his is probably slightly more balanced rather than being the pure cold assassin. Dalton paved the way for him though and was way ahead of his time.

Brosnan was very stiff and more like someone in a suit or watch commercial. He was all about posing and preening. He definitely lacked the physicality for the role.

It's funny how you're so right about it. Dalton became super charming as he got older like in Hot Fuzz.

But in his Bond days, as brooding as Dalton was, he was awkward around women. I never bought his flirtations.

 

[Dark Raven]

It's funny how you're so right about it. Dalton became super charming as he got older like in Hot Fuzz.

But in his Bond days, as brooding as Dalton was, he was awkward around women. I never bought his flirtations.

He was also like that in Chuck. I think he didn't take himself so seriously later on though. In his early days he was keen to be taken seriously as an actor. There was a certain charm in things like Wuthering Heights, but it was different to his later years.

 

[DyeLorean]

When he buys the suit he uses "Fleming" as his fake name.

t: That's correct.

 

[Supercajun]

If any one has ever doubted that a George Lazenby run at Bond instead of Moore would have been bad, think again. Lazenby would have made a superb Bond over Moore, maybe even Connery and Craig, especially when it came to the fight scenes. For example, here is Lazenby in a movie made in 1974 after he did Bond called 'The Shrine Of The Ultimate Bliss'. Watch these incredible fight scenes with Lazenby against Chinese fighters at exactly 44:07 (the best) and 58:50 (equally good). You would never have seen Connery, Moore, Dalton, Brosnan and maybe even Craig fight like this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_uHYpXamXc

 

[regwec]

He would have been abysmal, because he was a shoddy actor with a charisma vacuum.

He might have been a good stunt man for the proper Bond actors, however.

 

[MrMaooz]

I really enjoy the first 3 brosnan films.. TWINE has some fun stuff in it, TND has one of my favorite scenes ever ( Dr. Kaufman ) and goldeneye was my first bond in a cinema.. so i have a soft spot for that one

GoldenEye was fantastic. Tomorrow Never Dies was decent. The World Is Not Enough was meh, and Die Another Day was pretty bad. It sucks though, because DAD had an excellent first half.

Overall, Pierce in my opinion was a really good Bond, but aside from GoldenEye, never got great quality.

 

[The Englishman]

Did anyone watch the Fleming TV series?

 

[marvelrobbins]

Did anyone watch the Fleming TV series?

I did.

 

[Supercajun]

He would have been abysmal, because he was a shoddy actor with a charisma vacuum.

Not true. His movie is considered one of the best out of the franchise. He would have been a great Bond as he went on with the role with his 7 film contract.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Yeah I liked Lazenby. He was inexperienced, and the fact that he only did one causes a lot of people write him off as the worst, but had gone to do more I think he could have been great. He delivered one of the most emotional scenes in the franchise's history and had the look of a cold blooded killer. Don't know that he would have been better than Craig, but I think he could have been on par with Dalton.

 

[AnneFan]

Craig has the hindsight and benefit of Dalton having gone before him, and knowing how the public responded at the time. So his is probably slightly more balanced rather than being the pure cold assassin. Dalton paved the way for him though and was way ahead of his time.

Indeed. I admire the 87-89 era but think Craig is better. He has the swagger of Connery and the darkness of Dalton. It's a great mix which gives things that extra 'oomph'. Mixed in with his own unique qualities.

 

[Ajendo]

Urgh! One doesn't need to watch Lazenby's fight scenes in OTHER movies. His fight scenes in OHMSS are enough to solidify that his fisticuffs scenes are the best in the entire series. Craig is great and comes a very close second and probably would be number one but his fisticuffs in SF were a step down from his fights in CR and QoS.
Lazenby, had he not been so petulant and understood the concept of humility and took what he had seriously MAY have gone on to be a great Bond.
OHMSS is one if the best films in the series, a top 3 at best and top 5 at worst. Lazenby himself did a reasonably good job all things considered but he's definitely not as awful as many people make him out to be and again he has the best fight scenes in the series; brutal and balletic. The opening beach fight and the hotel room fight are glorious.