James Cameron's "Avatar" Thread v.3

How much will Avatar make WORLDWIDE?

  • under 200 million

  • 200-300 mil

  • 300-400 mil

  • 400-500 mil

  • 500-600 mil

  • 600-700 mil

  • 700-800 mil

  • 800-900 mil

  • 900-1 billion

  • over 1 billion


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not to be mean whatsoever (I was a huge fan of Avatar before it came out, but now just meh about it) but it makes me wanna post this :p :awesome:

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Lol no offense taken, the video fits my geeky nature but I was talking about the statue even if I think the character is also beautiful.
I like detailed stuff and Avatar gave it to me, like Herbert did with Dune, like Lucas did with Star Wars, it is not generic scifi, he really builds a possible universe, if you read the survival guide you can see it.
 
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yeah I know im just messin around. ive been watching some Rocko's Modern Life recently
 
It is a "dessin animé" ( in French ), I know Americans and English speaking people have a different words for western animation and Japan animation, we don't or we call them manga at least I do. Anyway as a French I don't have access to all your medias and I also might be a bit too old even if I am not reluctant to watch children cartoon ( I like Avatar The Last Airbender for instance ).
 
It is a "dessin animé" ( in French ), I know Americans and English speaking people have a different words for western animation and Japan animation, we don't or we call them manga at least I do. Anyway as a French I don't have access to all your medias and I also might be a bit too old even if I am not reluctant to watch children cartoon ( I like Avatar The Last Airbender for instance ).

ah but Rocko came out in the 90s and ended in the 90s
 
It is a "dessin animé" ( in French ), I know Americans and English speaking people have a different words for western animation and Japan animation, we don't or we call them manga at least I do. Anyway as a French I don't have access to all your medias and I also might be a bit too old even if I am not reluctant to watch children cartoon ( I like Avatar The Last Airbender for instance ).


How old are you? Rocco's Modern Life was on TV in the mid-90's. I turn 25 in November so I remember watching it on TV as a kid. :woot:
 
I'm 35 and like I said we don't have access to all your media here in France and even less 10 years ago. I'm not even sure if we can get Nickelodeon on our cable channels.
To give you an example, we are almost 1 year behind all American TV shows IF we get the chance to see it.
 
I'm 35 and like I said we don't have access to all your media here in France and even less 10 years ago. I'm not even sure if we can get Nickelodeon on our cable channels.
To give you an example, we are almost 1 year behind all American TV shows IF we get the chance to see it.


Yeah, that's not surprising. Have you seen that movie EuroTrip from 5 or so years ago? There's that scene in Eastern Europe where the guy tells them that the #1 new hit show is Miami Vice. :hehe:
 
Aw man, Rocko is a classic brilliant cartoon. Can't believe it didn't play overseas. My favorite nicktoon of the 90s. I grew up on the reruns though.
 
sorry that the thread is going off topic, but lets go back on topic shall we?

do you guys want to see the future earth scenes?

yeah hopefully we can get to see it becuase thats what im looking forward to.


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I wouldn't mind to see the Earth scenes, they would give more consistency to Jake Sully character. I hope they will be on the collector disk.
 
styles have not changed at all? really? also i guesse there will be thread four fairly soon?
 
Here's one person's rather interesting interpretation of Avatar (from TV Tropes):

So Eywa is a planetary brain made out of all the trees of the world. That is quite amazing, true, but not divine. However, Eywa liked being worshiped as a goddess for some reason, and chose to use her control of the world's more primitive animals to keep the Na'vi locked in scientific and technological stasis so that they would never advance enough in science to study her true nature and blow the whole thing. After all, when she provides them what they need, why would they advance? However, her plans hit a snag when humans came to Pandora. Now here was a sentient species with technology to reach the stars, and the science to figure out what she really is. These people obviously have to be gotten rid of before they could spill the big secret to the Na'vi. However, she has to do it in such a way that no curious Na'vi would ever consider talking to or learning from the humans should they return, ruling out a simple massive Zerg Rush of wildlife (which would also risk the humans attacking from orbit). She finds out that they are here for the Unobtanium, which is the perfect source for the conflict she needs.

So Eywa, in her role as the Na'vi goddess, tells her people to be as uncooperative as possible. She has them spurn all offers of technology or science, and utterly ignore the rather desperate need the humans have for the stuff that they're sitting on. As per her orders, some engage in low-level guerrilla warfare (such as the arrows on the truck tires) and they expel the school from their village, raising tension. When Jake Sully arrive on the planet and becomes an Avatar, she senses in him someone rather bitter at humanity and a fascination for the lushness of Pandora. She decides that these things would make him valuable as a pawn, which is why she calls off Neytiri from killing him and orders him let into the Hometree. She has him bond with the animals of Pandora (perhaps subtly messing with his brain via her control of them) until he comes to feel more Na'vi than human. This has the double effect of distracting him from his diplomatic mission, because she needs atrocities in order to be sure that the Na'vi remain anti-human and anti-science.

She allows the subsequent destruction of the Hometree in order to further galvanize the anti-human sentiments of both her pawn Jake and the Na'vi. The naive chumps proceed to make it even easier for her by bringing her Dr. Grace to heal. Grace is the top scientist on the planet and one of the most likely people to reveal her secret, which would cause her whole charade to crumble. Perfect! As a bonus, she was shot by a human, meaning that Jake's anti-human sentiments will be raised even further. Dr. Grace took wounds in the chest, which really shouldn't affect her mind. But they do give Eywa the perfect excuse after she absorbs the poor woman's mind. "Her wounds were too great", likely story. She was still alive, and her mind was intact. There was nothing stopping the transfer except for the fact that she would be far more useful to Eywa dead than alive. Also, to be sure that Jake further mystifies her, she has Grace's hollow shell say "I'm with her, Jake. She's real." That would prove very little challenge a planetary brain that can control thousands of animals at once.

Then, in order to ensure that all the tribes of Na'vi remember the humans only as bringers of death, she gives Jake the Toruk to gain power over them. He leads them into battle, where the humans' superior technology easily slaughters them. She wants this. She needed plenty of death, to get the Na'vi to hate and distrust humans forever after. After she has judged the slaughter to be sufficient, she commands her mindless herd of slave-beasts to charge and overwhelm the humans, which she could have done at any time. Following that, she has the Na'vi "escort" the humans offworld. Note her insidious effect on her pawn Jake Sully, by this point he refers to his own species (including his own family and friends) as "aliens". Then she transfers Jake Sully's mind to his avatar form permanently (probably performing any remaining necessary mind rearranging as well).

The plan worked like a charm. The humans are gone, the Na'vi are lead by a firmly anti-human leader, that leader deifies her, the Navi are embittered towards the humans, and there is no more risk of the Navi realizing that they've been played for fools. That's right, the true villain won. You just didn't see it.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/Avatar

So Eywa is actually evil? :eek:
 
That interpretation is rather stupid considering that humans were clearly interacting with the Na-vi in a peaceful and cooperative manner, prior to the attacks. na'vi were even learning english and learning from the earthlings...
 
This interpretation starts of with a wrong predicat, that's why it is a bit ridiculous.

However, Eywa liked being worshiped as a goddess for some reason, and chose to use her control of the world's more primitive animals to keep the Na'vi locked in scientific and technological stasis so that they would never advance enough in science to study her true nature and blow the whole thing.
 
That interpretation is rather stupid considering that humans were clearly interacting with the Na-vi in a peaceful and cooperative manner, prior to the attacks. na'vi were even learning english and learning from the earthlings...

I don't see why this goes against the interpretation, because if anything it supports it. The humans and na'vi were getting along just fine, but then something happened and relations with the na'vi went very sour. The theory is that Eywa predicted what would happen to her goddess status if the na'vi were to become more scientifically astute, so she all of a sudden tells the na'vi that technology and science are evil and that humans and their gifts are not welcome on Pandora.
 
I don't see why this goes against the interpretation, because if anything it supports it. The humans and na'vi were getting along just fine, but then something happened and relations with the na'vi went very sour. The theory is that Eywa predicted what would happen to her goddess status if the na'vi were to become more scientifically astute, so she all of a sudden tells the na'vi that technology and science are evil and that humans and their gifts are not welcome on Pandora.

I am not sure if Humans and Na'vi were getting along just fine, it was more a first contact ( for the Na'vi ) than anything, curiosity for these beings from another planet.
Furthermore, Eywa didn't asked nor like to be worshipped and didn't kept the Na'vi from evolving, this is huge presumption, she only cares for the Balance of Live as Neytiri told Jake but Jake managed to touch her by using Grace memories of our world and how humanity behave.
 
while at its base eywa is a brain of trees, for them it represents the entire ecosystem, the balance and the source and meaning of their lives so for them by the very definition is it not divine?
 
while at its base eywa is a brain of trees, for them it represents the entire ecosystem, the balance and the source and meaning of their lives so for them by the very definition is it not divine?

It is but I think I missed your point.
 
After Avatar, I read an announcement that theaters were raising 3D screen ticket prices...and in the same announcement was that all ticket prices were going up. I did not imagine that news release. Last year, I was able to see a movie for like 8 bucks, and a 3d movie for 13. Now, regular movies are like 13 and 3d are 20.

I would like to see this announcement, because I did a very exhaustive search and the ONLY thing I found was this:

http://www.chinahush.com/2010/01/08/avatar-tickets-in-china-most-expensive-in-the-world/

which is from CHINA, saying that prices rose around 3 US dollars because the demand in that country was so great, which has nothing to do with the "evil" of Cameron and his film, but the greed of a communist economy.

In the past 10 years or so, the US has seen nearly 40% inflation. A basic understanding of economics will tell you that inflation is normal in a healthy - and especially in a poor - economy and it has nothing to do with a single movie.

No, I don't doubt that you read an article that may have predicted what ticket prices will do in the future, but I believe that you grossly misunderstood the article.
 
I would like to see this announcement, because I did a very exhaustive search and the ONLY thing I found was this:

http://www.chinahush.com/2010/01/08/avatar-tickets-in-china-most-expensive-in-the-world/

which is from CHINA, saying that prices rose around 3 US dollars because the demand in that country was so great, which has nothing to do with the "evil" of Cameron and his film, but the greed of a communist economy.

In the past 10 years or so, the US has seen nearly 40% inflation. A basic understanding of economics will tell you that inflation is normal in a healthy - and especially in a poor - economy and it has nothing to do with a single movie.

No, I don't doubt that you read an article that may have predicted what ticket prices will do in the future, but I believe that you grossly misunderstood the article.

No, I didnt misunderstand anything. The price increase went into affect, and I happened to be at the theater that day (I think watching Clash Of The TItans) and the manager explained to me why prices went up.

And I understand inflation.

And for the record, I just Googled the following: Ticket price increase Avatar

and MANY news stories came up. Your exhaustive internet search must not have included words like price, Avatar, ticket...I'll be honest, I'm not sure how you missed it.
 
Promo for the Re-release

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