James Cameron's Sequel to "AVATAR" - Part 1

[redhawk23]

The next film will probably do only a normal BILLION dollars rather than damn near 3. Seriously it is absurd how much money Avatar made. Even adjusting for inflation, it only drops to the 2nd or 3rd highest grossing film of all time world wide.

 

[Lord]

It did have the help of 3D, which was a novelty for many, in least that type of 3D. How much it makes? I don't want to underestimate James Cameron, but he may have difficulty in making more than the first film, around 2 billion is my guess for the 2nd one, if he can make the "crescendo" he's constantly talking about, i could actually see him surpassing his previous record.

 

[Kane52630]

Forget Nolan...it's all about In Cameron We Trust.

 

[:eek:]

"Avatar" Gets A Cirque de Soliel Tour

By Garth Franklin Thursday May 29th 2014 12:14PM
James Cameron, Cirque du Soleil and 20th Century Fox are partnering to produce a live arena show inspired by the "Avatar" films.
Cirque du Soleil will develop the live experience in association with Lightstorm Entertainment. The touring show is expected to debut in late 2015 and will travel the globe ahead of the first sequel in the franchise which is currently slated for a December 2016 release.
Cameron has worked with Cirque before, producing the 3D documentary feature "Cirque du Soleil: Worlds Away."
Source: THR

 

[spider-neil]

If there's one thing Cameron knows how to do, it's a sequel.

 

[dark_b]

http://www.slashfilm.com/james-cameron-avatar-sequels-writing/

So we put together three teams, one for each script. The teams consist of me and another writer on each one of the three [films]. So I’m across all the films and then each one of them would have their own individual script they were responsible for. But what we did that was unique was we sat in the writing room for five months, eight hours a day, and we worked out every beat of the story across all three films so it all connects as one, sort of, three film saga. And I didn’t tell them which one was going to be there’s individually to write until the last day. So everyone was equally invested, story wise, in all three films.
So, for example, the guy that got movie three, which is middle one of this new trilogy, he now knows exactly what preceded and what follows out of what he’s writing at any given moment. We all consider that to be a really exciting, creative and groundbreaking experiment in screenwriting. I don’t know if that necessarily yields great scripts but it certainly worked for us as a process to get our minds around this kind of epic with all these new creatures, environments and characters and all that.
Cause the first thing I did was sat for a year and wrote 1500 pages of notes of the world and the cultures and the different clans and different animals and different biomes and so on. And had a lot of loose thematic stuff that ran through that but I didn’t a concrete story. I wanted to approach it more like, “Guys we’re going to adapt a novel or series of novels.” Because I felt that kind of detail, even if movies can’t ever be that detailed – it can be visually detailed, it can’t be that detailed in terms of character and culture. But you always get this tip of the iceberg kind of thing. You sense it’s there off camera or in the past of the moment that you’re seeing. So I felt that was the way to do it.


interesting.

 

[Wheels]

Okay, now I'm a little interested to see how this works. It's seems like Cameron wants the saga to feel like one big story and he wants a sense of richness and history to the world. How Tolkien of him.

 

[mclay18]

That's the approach I expected Cameron would take when he hired the three writers to co-script the three movies with him. But I thought he would have a rough idea for each movie, rather than a full blown background of aliens, cultures, and languages.

I suppose bouncing story ideas with the three writers is better, since each writer can put his or her input and rein Cameron in when he gets too off-course.

 

[Lord]

Wait, the three nw movies will be a single saga now? I prefered the idea he gave that the 2nd and 3rd would be sequels and each would stand-alone too, while the 4th film would be a prequel.

 

[scifiwolf]

Wait, the three nw movies will be a single saga now? I prefered the idea he gave that the 2nd and 3rd would be sequels and each would stand-alone too, while the 4th film would be a prequel.

It may tell a single story out of order, where the prequel fits best in the narrative presented last.

 

[Lord]

It may tell a single story out of order, where the prequel fits best in the narrative presented last.

I think the best would be for a common theme while still having a complete narrative each, like i think the Star Wars original Trilogy and Transformers did (even though the quality of the narrative left much to be desired).

I just hope Cameron isn't trying to make a Lord of the Rings type of trilogy, i don't think you can top that one, and will feel weird, since it's almost like an expansion of the Hollywood idea of making the 2nd and 3rd films in a Trilogy being shot back-to-back and pretty much feeling like a singular movie, and putting the 1st film in the sequence in an awkward position (Matrix and PotC for example).

Either way, i'm excited and hyped to see the return of a film series that started in Cinema and isn't adapting a previous source material, i can't remember of a blockbuster "original" film series since the Matrix Trilogy.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

The point, I'm sure, isn't to top LOTR (who can?), but to have the same sense of narrative cohesion by having an already mapped out arc over three films. In this way you avoid sequels that feel like nothing but cash grabs because the narrative isn't naturally predisposed to telling another story, whereby the end result is a contrived film or an episodic one with little bearing from the last.

 

[slumcat]

Who's to say this wont again be absolute **** like the original?

There is nothing here that inspires confidence. The movies will be sold on the visuals, FX and 3D just like the first one. The awful script is the last thing anyone praised out of Avatar.

This is just gonna be a big dumb blow em up blockbuster in the usual Hollywood blockbuster vein.

 

[Wheels]

Who's to say this wont again be absolute **** like the original?

There is nothing here that inspires confidence. The movies will be sold on the visuals, FX and 3D just like the first one. The awful script is the last thing anyone praised out of Avatar.

This is just gonna be a big dumb blow em up blockbuster in the usual Hollywood blockbuster vein.

Nothing really. I mean there's nothing that says it will be great. Since you have no problem watching low budget action movies of a lesser quality than this will be, you should have no issues with this.

 

[Lord]

Who's to say this wont again be absolute **** like the original?

There is nothing here that inspires confidence. The movies will be sold on the visuals, FX and 3D just like the first one. The awful script is the last thing anyone praised out of Avatar.

This is just gonna be a big dumb blow em up blockbuster in the usual Hollywood blockbuster vein.

1. Cameron has made 2 of the best sequels of all time.
2. Cameron has passion for the project
3. He has hired various professional writers to make sure his next films have a complete and cohesive story in order to not fail like so many other sequels.
4. Now that the first film is out of the way, he can focus on more complex elements, Star Wars: A New Hope was also very simple and derivative before Empire took it to a whole new level.
5. Cameron himself has promised a "Crescendo", with each film being better than the previous one.
6. They're actually taking time to get the plot and world right.

Many other reasons could be stated, but i would have to be here all day, long short story, never underestimate James Cameron.

 

[DA_Champion]

Who's to say this wont again be absolute **** like the original?

There is nothing here that inspires confidence. The movies will be sold on the visuals, FX and 3D just like the first one. The awful script is the last thing anyone praised out of Avatar.

This is just gonna be a big dumb blow em up blockbuster in the usual Hollywood blockbuster vein.

He has hired good screenwriters for the second and third films.

 

[Doctor Jones]

1. Cameron has made 2 of the best sequels of all time.
2. Cameron has passion for the project
3. He has hired various professional writers to make sure his next films have a complete and cohesive story in order to not fail like so many other sequels.
4. Now that the first film is out of the way, he can focus on more complex elements, Star Wars: A New Hope was also very simple and derivative before Empire took it to a whole new level.
5. Cameron himself has promised a "Crescendo", with each film being better than the previous one.
6. They're actually taking time to get the plot and world right.

Many other reasons could be stated, but i would have to be here all day, long short story, never underestimate James Cameron.

Yeah, I'm pretty optimistic about this one. Especially the first reason. If history has taught us anything, Cameron always manages to exceed expectations. Condemnations or not.

 

[Team Andino]

I enjoyed Avatar when I saw it back when it first came out, but I honestly haven't thought twice about it since then. Though I'm interested in the possibilities of a sequel based on how thorough he's speaking in detail about how hes prepared the scripts for the three follow ups. It's great to hear that much commitment and devotion to making sure the follow ups are seem less, well hopefully they will at least.

 

[Octoberist]

To be frank it's kinda dull.

 

[Lord]

In one hand, you're planing a lot of follow ups instead of focusing on one at a time, on the other hand, this process is common to various classic film series, and this time, he's actually planning everything before jumping into the project, unlike some of the other film series that end up having to rush their end.

 

[DA_Champion]

Geeks really hate Avatar lol.

 

[Lord]

Geeks really hate Avatar lol.

Pretty much, while it doesn't have as much as an impact, i think it's a good example of what would happen if internet existed back when the first Star Wars came out, with people having better information about what the film was ripping off.

As it is, i'm glad to see more Avatar, i knew the film wasn't going to blow me away with the plot, but i was already hopeful Cameron would give a superior Sequel, i also like to be able to hype up a film series that doesn't already have a source material to draw from. There are some lower budgeted films like that, like Expendables and Transporter, but they don't reach the mainstream as easily.

The last film series like this that i can remember is the Matrix Trilogy, Pirates of the Caribbean doesn't really have much to draw from the ride either, but it's still technically an adaptation.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Cameron just loves to innovate, doesnt he? concepts, sfx, cameras, and now screenwriting. I bet if you give him a grilled cheese sandwhich, he wouldnt eat it, he'd be looking at some ground-breakingly radical and different way to do it better.

 

[AnneFan]

Sure, the first one made a ton of money, and fine, do a sequel, but I'm not sure why Cameron is going so all in with this series.

 

[dark_b]

Geeks really hate Avatar lol.

it has everything to do with the BO. if Avatar bombed ( John Carter bomb and Lone Ranger bomb) then internet fans would love it more.

we love underdogs. Avatar made way to much money. it means that everyone form 8 to 80 years old watched it and liked it.