Superman Returns Jason's Future (Upon further thought)

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Bryan Singer pretty much said Jason Christopher White IS the son of Richard White and Lois Lane. He also said he plans to keep Jason around as a reminder of the consequences of Superman's absense.

Lets assume hes telling the truth for now, what would Jason's future purpose be?

I think the movies should show him growing into a teenager (possibly with new actors as he gets older) and eventually have him become adventurous and into journalism like his parents. He could be a 'Steve Trevor-type' whos the same age as Supergirl (Kara Zor-El) in the future (when theyre both teenagers). An interesting role reversal of the Superman/Lois thing for the next generation as Superman and Lois grow old together, these two have their own adventures also... He would definately be a better fit with her than that freak Brainiac 5.

Or

If Jason is the son of Superman and Lois, he may die between this film and the next (due to all his medical complications described in the novel).....likely due to Kryptonian and Human DNA being incompatible.

This result, though depressing....could have some good potential characterization for Supes and Lois (dealing with the loss) and Jason's death could potentially bring them back together.


So which scenario is preferable for Jason's future?
 
I dont know. I think i like the idea that kid is Supe's but im not sure where to go from there. I guess thats why i am not writing and directing a major motion picture
 
Its not a 'fact' yet, at least not according to Bryan Singer.
 
I'd like to have voted for son of Superman and Lois and lives, so I didn't vote.
 
Kane said:
Its not a 'fact' yet, at least not according to Bryan Singer.

yes i know, I should have worded it differently. let me change that.
 
Tzigone said:
I'd like to have voted for son of Superman and Lois and lives, so I didn't vote.

Ya, I didnt see that as too likely an option. Superman wouldnt go off and leave Lois at the end (on good terms this time) if he knew that the child was his.

They wouldnt have written Jason with severe medical complications if they expected him to continue for long (being Supes and Lois's son).

Singer also casted a child actor who looks alot like Marsden and Bosworth (and nothing at all like Brandon Routh)...

And then Singer goes on the record and says the child IS Richard's and Lois'.....and the child will remain around as the consequence for Superman bc of his absence (it wouldnt be much of an obstacle or consequence if it was Superman's son).

Finally, Mike D went on the record to call Jason as 'Jason Christopher White' and Jason calls Richard 'Daddy' in the novel.

So we'll see.
 
The time frame for the birth of the kid and lois and richard getting together dont coincide really well
 
But we dont know when she stated dating Richard and when the child was born. It all could have been the year after Superman left.

Lois would have been upset enough to move on the Richard...but then actually feel in love with him.
 
Tzigone said:
I'd like to have voted for son of Superman and Lois and lives, so I didn't vote.

Same here.

Seriously, I can see why Singer and the writers would say that Richard and Lois are raising the child and that it is their child. For all intents and purposes it is! However, the novelization cast a lot of dobuts about the parentage, not to mention the clear lack of a timeline make the biological father of Jason a question. I don't think anyone can seriously debate that especially if you've read the book.

Though I think it's safe to say that if a man has been actively participating in raising a child and caring for it, and legitmately loves the child and that child calls him 'Daddy' and loves him back than it is his child, regardless of who fathered him or whose sperm collided with the ova.

The consequence of Superman's actions could be that he missed out on the first years of his child's life while out searching no-man's land looking for himself instead of focusing on what was right in front of him.

Everyone single one of Singer's or the writer's statements can be interpreted several different ways...in and out of context.
 
Kane said:
Its not a 'fact' yet, at least not according to Bryan Singer.

I believe him, considering that lying about something of this magnitude could be disasterous. The kid being his could kill the film from negative buzz, so either admit it is his or keep mum on it. To lie about it not being his and then it is? That could be a major mistake, and Singer isn't stupid.

You'd only lie to keep something secret if it was something the audience and fans would actually want to see. Nobody wants Superman to have a kid. The book was probably written from an earlier draft of the screenplay where it was left ambiguous.
 
How about Lex Luthor engineers a brilliantly complex scheme that ultimately ends up in killing Jason - thereby enraging Superman further but he can't do anything to bring Lex to justice.
 
DocLathropBrown said:
Nobody wants Superman to have a kid. The book was probably written from an earlier draft of the screenplay where it was left ambiguous.

Again...certain people and their ownership. I want to see it and I've been a Superman fan for a very long time. I read the comics. I watch the cartoons. I even own AOS, LnC, Smallville and Superfriends. So, who exactly are you talking about when you say that NOBODY want to see Superman have a kid?

And, on a side note, the book was written from the final draft. The author of the book said so. Apparently, there are still surprises in store that are not in the book. LOL...maybe it's a piano flying across the room.
 
Tzigone said:
I'd like to have voted for son of Superman and Lois and lives, so I didn't vote.

That's what I wanted as well.
 
The Jason/Supergirl idea sounds entertaining, but not for the movie world.
 
I think I'll find it entertaining if that is the case. I probably won't be the only one who finds it entertaining either. Though, we'll have to see for ourselves to be completely sure.
 
The way I see it is in about 10 years, Brandon and Kate will be still in the right age range to play the characters, but theyll be old enough to lose the connection with the younger audience.

So maybe its better to eventually evolve into a 'Superman family'-like sitatuion which Superman fighting evil and then a 2nd generation (also in the film) of Kara Zor-El and Jason White doing their own thing.

Its a cool reinvention but not something that totally destroys anything from the comics, but adds to it.....since Jason is Richard and Lois' son...not Superman's.

Superman and Lois cant really have children anyways...so I think its kinda the best of both worlds.

Maybe a while down the line, Superman and Lois will find some way to have their own child (and that will be the happy ending of the Superman movie franchaise).
 
Kane said:
since Jason is Richard and Lois' son...not Superman's.

You know this for a fact? Or, are you going on the misleading and often ambigous statements from Singer and the writers about what will probably be the biggest twist of the movies?

Kane said:
Superman and Lois cant really have children anyways...so I think its kinda the best of both worlds.

Again, something you know for fact because even Superman doesn't know if it's possible. Check out ADV 638. Anyone who has been reading comics for at least the last four years will know there have been a TON of hints that eventually Lois and Clark will have a child.

Kane said:
Maybe a while down the line, Superman and Lois will find some way to have their own child (and that will be the happy ending of the Superman movie franchaise).

I'm sure the comics will give them a way eventually....lol...that isn't if Singer doesn't first.
 
as much as i hated the idea about a kid of Lois this early in the game (regardless if he's Superman's or not) i'd like to see him live. but instead of being a "hero" why doesnt he be more of a scribe or a witness to the heroic exploits of superheroes, like Norman McKay from Kingdom Come.
 
Kane said:
Bryan Singer pretty much said Jason Christopher White IS the son of Richard White and Lois Lane. He also said he plans to keep Jason around as a reminder of the consequences of Superman's absense.

Lets assume hes telling the truth for now, what would Jason's future purpose be?

I think the movies should show him growing into a teenager (possibly with new actors as he gets older) and eventually have him become adventurous and into journalism like his parents. He could be a 'Steve Trevor-type' whos the same age as Supergirl (Kara Zor-El) in the future (when theyre both teenagers). An interesting role reversal of the Superman/Lois thing for the next generation as Superman and Lois grow old together, these two have their own adventures also... He would definately be a better fit with her than that freak Brainiac 5.

Or

If Jason is the son of Superman and Lois, he may die between this film and the next (due to all his medical complications described in the novel).....likely due to Kryptonian and Human DNA being incompatible.

This result, though depressing....could have some good potential characterization for Supes and Lois (dealing with the loss) and Jason's death could potentially bring them back together.


So which scenario is preferable for Jason's future?

Since Lois & Clark are ment to be together, I still believe Jason is their son . The novel hints at it .
 
Kal-El 8 said:
Since Lois & Clark are ment to be together, I still believe Jason is their son . The novel hints at it .
I as well. And I also think, to make Jason other than Superman's child would seem just a bit too pointless if Jason is going to be featured prominently besides Lois in the sequels. Superman is already suffering the consequences of his decision to leave for Krypton in "Returns."

Anyway, I could just be wishfully dreaming but I personally would much prefer Jason being Clark's than anyone else's. It provides a much more daring storyline if Jason was Clark's and he had to continue masquerading around as Reporter Clark watching Richard live the life he should be living with Lois and Jason.
 
im not an A** but i like the idea of the kid passing away if it were supes and lois's kid reason being it shows that you cant mess with nature and i like it cuz maybe it would let superman know that he cant save everyone kinda like john kent... "all those things i can do, all those powers.... and i couldnt even save him" superman needs to be more human and less Kryptonain... also remember his mother saying he'll be alone, meaning people will come and go while he wont age like them
 
I'm personally hoping at the end of SR, Supes wakes up and it's all a dream. He never left, the kid NEVER happened, and Lex is an evil business tycoon.
 
I think at the end kid will make a telephatic connection with Superman.

Supes will hear his voice.
 

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