Transformers John Rogers(first draft writer)speaks on Transformers

[Stringer]

From the SHH frontpage

http://superherohype.com/news/transformersnews.php?id=4736

 

[poutine-man]

Glad to see the battles are going to be large-scale. I suppose that was a given, considering the director's penchant for this type of stuff.




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I'm Poutine-Man!

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

Well, I hope Transformers is light years better than CINO.

 

[Stringer]

Well the good thing is they definitely changed some things, hopefully for the better

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

Well, here's hoping there's no "It's overtime." type corny dialogue!

 

[Stringer]

^Right. I wonder which storyline is getting moved to the begining.

 

[bunk]

This line bothers me the most:

so using what he needs to get his vision across.

This is a stronger idication that Bay really does have a lot of control over the script. That worries me.

Also, how he said they're not focusing as much on the smaller personal stories. Thats fine if he's referring to the teen romance part, it sucks if he's also talking about any stories between the autobots or decepticons.

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

Well, if people at Dreamworks and Paramount don't start doing anything to tell Bay to chill out and get serious, they've all but given up will let Harry Potter trounce all over them.

 

[CFlash]

This line bothers me the most:

so using what he needs to get his vision across.

This is a stronger idication that Bay really does have a lot of control over the script. That worries me.

Also, how he said they're not focusing as much on the smaller personal stories. Thats fine if he's referring to the teen romance part, it sucks if he's also talking about any stories between the autobots or decepticons.

If you do a search on past articles about this, you'd see stuff about this. Bay wouldn't agree to do the movie until his people (Orci/Kurtz) had a chance to touch up the script. At one point there was a deadline he imposed for a "revision" and it was missed... which delayed the movie for a year.

So, yes, Bay has a lot of creative control over the script. I do however have a hunch that Spielberg will be a lot more hands on in post-production (editing, effects, sound, music... etc)... it's kinda his way. It's why many movies he doesn't direct still have a markedly Spielberg vibe.

 

[The Punisher]

Cool article, let's hope he's right.

 

[cryptic name]

If you do a search on past articles about this, you'd see stuff about this. Bay wouldn't agree to do the movie until his people (Orci/Kurtz) had a chance to touch up the script. At one point there was a deadline he imposed for a "revision" and it was missed... which delayed the movie for a year.

So, yes, Bay has a lot of creative control over the script. I do however have a hunch that Spielberg will be a lot more hands on in post-production (editing, effects, sound, music... etc)... it's kinda his way. It's why many movies he doesn't direct still have a markedly Spielberg vibe.

i agree. spielberg always makes his presence felt on the sets of movies he produces. hell, he practically took over poltergeist from tobe hooper.

 

[bunk]

If you do a search on past articles about this, you'd see stuff about this. Bay wouldn't agree to do the movie until his people (Orci/Kurtz) had a chance to touch up the script. At one point there was a deadline he imposed for a "revision" and it was missed... which delayed the movie for a year.

So, yes, Bay has a lot of creative control over the script. I do however have a hunch that Spielberg will be a lot more hands on in post-production (editing, effects, sound, music... etc)... it's kinda his way. It's why many movies he doesn't direct still have a markedly Spielberg vibe.

Yes but initially I hadn't heard the words "his vision". I have no problem with Bay wanting his own writers to revise the script, especially if they're better writers. That aspect alone doesn't mean to me Bay is controlling the story, only that he wants a script that will fit the way he directs as far as pacing and overall style is concerned.

 

[CFlash]

Yes but initially I hadn't heard the words "his vision". I have no problem with Bay wanting his own writers to revise the script, especially if they're better writers. That aspect alone doesn't mean to me Bay is controlling the story, only that he wants a script that will fit the way he directs as far as pacing and overall style is concerned.

Well, this says it all "increased the big military aspect, whereas I had focused on some of the smaller, personal stories."
This shows that that he has changed things. Perhaps for the better? Maybe. But, more likely its to fit his "style of movies" (bombastic fluff IMHO). But who knows.

 

[Tad Fatherton]

obviously not you. this isn't big news guys, every director does revisions to scripts that are given to them. you people take everything out of context, just like how you're all freaking out because they said this movie is based on the original show. guess what, it is based on the original show, they just didn't want to recycle the same story over and over again, because unike cflash, most people would get bored seeing the same repetitive story over and over again.

 

[bunk]

Well, this says it all "increased the big military aspect, whereas I had focused on some of the smaller, personal stories."
This shows that that he has changed things. Perhaps for the better? Maybe. But, more likely its to fit his "style of movies" (bombastic fluff IMHO). But who knows.

But do you think any of these "personal stories" are having to do solely with the transformers themselves? I don't know if I'd want that cut.

 

[Stringer]

obviously not you. this isn't big news guys, every director does revisions to scripts that are given to them. you people take everything out of context, just like how you're all freaking out because they said this movie is based on the original show. guess what, it is based on the original show, they just didn't want to recycle the same story over and over again, because unike cflash, most people would get bored seeing the same repetitive story over and over again.

How did anyone take what was in the article out of context? and whos making it into big news? We're just discussing the article.

 

[CFlash]

because unike cflash, most people would get bored seeing the same repetitive story over and over again.

1) Yeah. Because there have been sooooo many Transformers movies.

2) And, yes, people do get bored... with the same simplistic McGuffin story.

 

[Tad Fatherton]

How did anyone take what was in the article out of context? and whos making it into big news? We're just discussing the article.

i don't know how, but cflash managed to do it. this thread is making big news out of it.

 

[Tad Fatherton]

1) Yeah. Because there have been sooooo many Transformers movies.

2) And, yes, people do get bored... with the same simplistic McGuffin story.

1) you're extremely dense. there has been over two decades worth of the transformers storyline.

2) you have no idea what you're talking about

 

[CFlash]

i don't know how, but cflash managed to do it. this thread is making big news out of it.

You're a psycho. Go back and read the thread again with your eyes open.

 

[Tad Fatherton]

You're a psycho. Go back and read the thread again with your eyes open.

read it for me

 

[bunk]

Apparently discussions now need approval from the kid who got kicked out.

 

[Tad Fatherton]

who are you?

 

[CFlash]

But do you think any of these "personal stories" are having to do solely with the transformers themselves? I don't know if I'd want that cut.

That's an interesting question. Given Spielberg's comments really early on ("a boy and his car"), I would guess that the stories were more about humans and/or Spike in particular... possibly something having to do with his dad in a more "meaningful" way.

Like you though, I would have liked to see more meaningfull stuff between the bots themselves. But, the creators have to worry about the larger audience.

 

[Alchemyst]

What I dont understand is, if the army is supposed to play a role in the movie, at the end when the big battle is over with, is the army gonna be cool with fact and accept that robots are on their planet? Is the army gonna be like a second line of defense that aids the autobots?