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The Dark Knight Joker's Henchmen??

kytrigger said:
I could see Joker getting henchmen by breaking into Maroni's place, killing some of them, and giving the others an ultimatem: either you work for him, or you die right now. I would like to see him have henchmen that don't like him, but are too afriad to leave. Then the henchmen can do tings liek rob banks and whatnot for him, but Joker can still go out alone at night to kill an innocent or two (it's how he relaxes after a long day of work).

It won't be so.

Joker will be killing mob bosses gradually to get more power. He won't do that like it happened in B89.

If you read TLH, you know what I am talking about. Besides, sequels will have most parts from this comic book.

He is a serial killer, who wants to have a power after he will kill all mob bosses.
 
kytrigger said:
I could see Joker getting henchmen by breaking into Maroni's place, killing some of them, and giving the others an ultimatem: either you work for him, or you die right now. I would like to see him have henchmen that don't like him, but are too afriad to leave. Then the henchmen can do tings liek rob banks and whatnot for him, but Joker can still go out alone at night to kill an innocent or two (it's how he relaxes after a long day of work).

Exactly, people should be afraid of the guy. Joker should be one scary mofo that no one would want to doublecross or go behind his back in fear of getting killed in some gruesome way. The only person he should have by his side is Harley and you can work in how Joker treats her like a abusive husband both physically and verbally, yet Harley loves the guy too much that she sticks around him, until Batman lies to her, and says that he's been seeing other girls on the side or makes her believe he really doesn't love her.

I mean it'd be funny if they gave Joker his hyenas and some thugs named "Gag" and "Punchline" but if you were to do that you could make it into a little spoof of the old 60's TV show and BTAS.

Joker: I shall call you two...Gag and Punchline!

Thugs: Listen Mr. J we already got names Rocko and Rosco and we ain't gunna listen to no clown like you.

(Shoots them both in the sternum and head.)

Joker: Why does everyone have to be such a party-pooper nowadays?
 
Cinemaman said:
That makes sense to me, but I would be fine, if Harley had only 2-3 scenes.

She will just help Joker to escape from Arkham and then Joker will leave her, because he is just a lone guy.


Yeah Dr Harleen Quinzel should in third sequel where they show Joker transport to Arkham after Dr Quinzel reads his file she gets sympathetic towards him... We know what she will became....
 
Two Face said:
We know what she will became....
awwww yeah.
sweet destiny.
harley-1.jpg
 
Two Face said:
Yeah Dr Harleen Quinzel should in third sequel where they show Joker transport to Arkham after Dr Quinzel reads his file she gets sympathetic towards him... We know what she will became....

Honestly I dont want Harleen Quinzel to become Joker's girlfriend.

I just want 2-3 scenes with her. After Joker's escape, we won't see her anymore, because she isn't necessary character.

And as we know, Nolan is going to show much darker version of Joker, so there won't be much jokes and characters like Harleen.
 
Cinemaman said:
Honestly I dont want Harleen Quinzel to become Joker's girlfriend.

I just want 2-3 scenes with her. After Joker's escape, we won't see her anymore, because she isn't necessary character.

And as we know, Nolan is going to show much darker version of Joker, so there won't be much jokes and characters like Harleen.

I agree but she can be dark if done right or she stay as Dr Harleen Quinzel in charge of Arkham Asylum.
 
Cinemaman said:
It won't be so.

Joker will be killing mob bosses gradually to get more power. He won't do that like it happened in B89.

If you read TLH, you know what I am talking about. Besides, sequels will have most parts from this comic book.

He is a serial killer, who wants to have a power after he will kill all mob bosses.

You THINK it will be based off of TLH, you don't know that for sure. And he didn't do that in TLH. He only killed people to try and find out who Holiday was/thought they might be Holiday. It had nothing to do with gaining power.
 
kytrigger said:
You THINK it will be based off of TLH, you don't know that for sure. And he didn't do that in TLH. He only killed people to try and find out who Holiday was/thought they might be Holiday. It had nothing to do with gaining power.

Well, they actually can use Joker as mob bosses killer.

And I remeber someone (Goyer I think) mentioned that.

Besides there will be mob bosses war stuff, in which mob bosses are being killed by some mysterious figure. So this figure supposed to be Joker, who controled all this game.

But at first, Batman will think that some arm dealer British Guy (The Penguin) is killing bosses, but he will find the truth only at the end.
 
Cinemaman said:
Well, they actually can use Joker as mob bosses killer.

And I remeber someone (Goyer I think) mentioned that.

Besides there will be mob bosses war stuff, in which mob bosses are being killed by some mysterious figure. So this figure supposed to be Joker, who controled all this game.

But at first, Batman will think that some arm dealer British Guy (The Penguin) is killing bosses, but he will find the truth only at the end.

Right, and that's what I'm saying. If Joker is smart enough to get the mobs warring with each other so he can take over, then he's smart enough to now that he will need some help, he's not gonna rule gotham by himself. So i say take a couple of the dead mobster's men, shoot them in teh head, and then turn to the rest of the men and say "you can either die, or join me".
 
kytrigger said:
Right, and that's what I'm saying. If Joker is smart enough to get the mobs warring with each other so he can take over, then he's smart enough to now that he will need some help, he's not gonna rule gotham by himself. So i say take a couple of the dead mobster's men, shoot them in teh head, and then turn to the rest of the men and say "you can either die, or join me".

Well...

It can be right, but i just dont want him to kill mob bosses only in one scene.

I want him to make other bosses becoming afraid of him with every new victim.

:joker:
 
Cinemaman said:
Well...

It can be right, but i just dont want him to kill mob bosses only in one scene.

I want him to make other bosses becoming afraid of him with every new victim.

:joker:

That would be cool...Have them afraid of both Batman and the Joker...
 
I would like him to work alone, except for maybe harley... but they would have to introduce her as a doctor first and then have her become harley. But I don't think, since we are getting a creepy Joker, that he should have henchmen, just because of the fact that no one would work with him, no one with half a brain at least.
 
I'd like the Joker to work alone like in The Long Halloween... making some troubles in Gotham's underworld, "beating" the boss, continuing with the escalation introducing a new kind of menace: the freaks!
 
I completely agree. Mimes as henchmen would get run over by the tumbler in seconds lol.
 
Way I see it, The Joker's henchmen shouldn't be like hired goons. They should be a cult like street gang. Kind of like Charles Manson's gang. Gang members, homeless people, and the psychologically damaged who The Joker recruited and built up as a sort of cult around him. They're people who share his rather twisted version of the world. How life is suffering, and it's their job to prove that point by making it even worse through murder and destruction. A sort of homicidal stand up comedy. I think in terms of apearence, they should resemble the "Jokerz" gang from Batman Beyond.
 
I detest goons that have to dress in costume for work. It's degrading and destracts from the main villain, which is a no-no.

No goons for The Joker. Black Mask and The Penguin need goons, but not The Joker.
 
I'm kind of interested to see the Joker work alone, as just a serial killer, like the guy in Se7en. I'm not very interested in seeing Harley either, only because I think that she would take away from the Joker's character, just like Robin does to Batman.
 
He should work alone since he is only starting out but I always loved the henchmen he had in BTAS. Particularly the 3 that were dressed up like the 3 stooges (spelling?) and even had names that were similar: Mo, Lo, and Cur.
 
In the case that the Joker HAS henchman
*which im hoping he doesnt*
i liked the creepy midget clowns from The Killing Joke.
They just seemed so.
creepy.

On another note on people saying Joker cant fight the Batman

Have you EVER Fought someone who is clinically insane?
or had them try to fight you?
They have constant adrenaline rushes. Making them stronger and faster than normal.
Batman himself said this in "Joker: The Man who Laughs"
Pretty sure it was that book.
and besides
half the movie
Joker and Batman shouldnt fight
it should be a detective movie
finding the gross mutilated bodies
trying to find patterns
and track who does it... hey. its how i see it.
 
The Question said:
Way I see it, The Joker's henchmen shouldn't be like hired goons. They should be a cult like street gang. Kind of like Charles Manson's gang. Gang members, homeless people, and the psychologically damaged who The Joker recruited and built up as a sort of cult around him. They're people who share his rather twisted version of the world. How life is suffering, and it's their job to prove that point by making it even worse through murder and destruction. A sort of homicidal stand up comedy. I think in terms of apearence, they should resemble the "Jokerz" gang from Batman Beyond.

If he must have a gang this would be the best way to do it:up:
 
Malone said:
I'm kind of interested to see the Joker work alone, as just a serial killer, like the guy in Se7en. I'm not very interested in seeing Harley either, only because I think that she would take away from the Joker's character, just like Robin does to Batman.
I'd like Harley in a sequel with him to make a phsycotic Bonnie and Clyde but Seven is the template i want used for him in TDK
 

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