The Dark Knight My theory about Joker

[FaT_tONle]

I want little pieces of his life like what they did with Bruce's past.

Show me him as a boy being abused by his drunk dad and living with a crack****e of a mom in a trailer park or rundown apartment.

Show him as a standup comedian doing terribly on stage. Show the audience walking out on him, booing him, and being disruptive. He goes home to his apartment, to his pregnant wife, and finds out he'll be thrown out on his butt soon because he got the last eviction notice and hasn't been paying his rent.

Show him hating his dead-end job at the Wayne Chemical Plant.

Then, he does some jobs for the Falcones or Maronis. Becomes the Red Hood, his wife dies (like in Alan Moore's book), and then he starts to want out of the mob. Falcone or Maroni finds this unacceptable and then pushes him into the chemical vat altering his hair, smile, and skin.

Nice ****... showing the contrasts of his childhood compared to his rival is an excellent idea IMO... Joker needs to have a mob connection in Nolan's version... you just can't have a whack job going around throwing acid at people and stealing things etc... they didn't just throw a random multi billionare out there in a bat suit did they? Let him get backstabbed by the mob... then let him go on a killing spree whacking Falcone's men one by one... that's the Nolan way... Turtle nailed this

 

[david icke]

Don't think using flashbacks for a villan's origin will happen.I think they'll stick with the 'who the hell is this guy?Dosen't appear to have any mob connections.' vibe/conversations throughout movie.If they use killing joke basis for character i dont think this'll be shown,only alluded to as in joker perhaps gettin ahold of one of the crooks who had a hand in his disfigurement whilst attacking the mob.This is the kind of mob connection i would be happy with as i hated the 1989 character version being mobster first.LOved the killing joke 'one bad day' transformation.Otherwise transformation as in 89 version is cosmetic only.

 

[AidanJames]

I don't know why but when I saw the end of Batman Begins I always had this vision of the Joker standing over some sort of vent or pipe that burst when Ra's set off the microwave emitter. (maybe knocked out over a water main line after failing a job as the red hood for the mob?) He'd have a bit of scar damage, not a lot... honestly hardly noticable but it would make his face very pale. Or maybe simply being that close to the very hot steaming chemical would make the reaction that turns his hair green.

And of course the guy went crazy... but I think he should have been a bit crazy to begin with. A down and out petty thief from the narrows with a twisted sense of humor.

It's kind of convoluted but it just hit me that a few of the rogue's gallery could be explained by that one event in Gotham's history and that the Joker was the one who was closest to the eruption.

 

[Nepenthes]

That's a good idea ^ about the burst pipe

But I think if you're going to tie the Jokers origin to BB it should revolve around Batman a little more. The theme that Batman is partly responsible for his transformation. Maybe he's one of the crazed Narrows mob who attacks Batman, and Batman throws him into a broken pipe.

Or, the Joker was a failed comedian and petty thief who's conned into working for the Scarecrow, and he gets thrown into a vat of chemicals when Batman fights the goons in the Asylum. That was the production room for Crane's fear gas.

Also explains Jokers chemistry talents.

 

[Hades]

It would be kind of cool if it delved in the the Joker's past a bit.

show him having a ****ty, life or something.

then it would constrast the whole opposite of the coin deal.

Where Batman used his tragedy for good, where as the Joker let it get the best of him and use it for bad

 

[Miranda Fox]

It would be kind of cool if it delved in the the Joker's past a bit.

show him having a ****ty, life or something.

then it would constrast the whole opposite of the coin deal.

Where Batman used his tragedy for good, where as the Joker let it get the best of him and use it for bad

I like this.

Or, the Joker was a failed comedian and petty thief who's conned into working for the Scarecrow, and he gets thrown into a vat of chemicals when Batman fights the goons in the Asylum. That was the production room for Crane's fear gas.

Also explains Jokers chemistry talents.

I like that one too - in fact, I think that's a very believable direction for Nolan to go in.

 

[raybia]

It would be kind of cool if it delved in the the Joker's past a bit.

show him having a ****ty, life or something.

then it would constrast the whole opposite of the coin deal.

Where Batman used his tragedy for good, where as the Joker let it get the best of him and use it for bad

That was the idea for "The Killing Joke" and what I didn't like about the premise of that book was once and for all giving the Joker a definite origin but of course the brilliance of the book was that Joker said himself that his origin was only one possible origin, if he has to have a past, he prefers it to be multiple choice.

This movie should either give no origin or give one of many possible origins.

 

[Cinemaman]

^^^

Many possible origins? Sounds like Nolan's usual web for the twist

 

[comic_guy04]

I like it, Becuase I always thought that would be a great idea for his origin. Making him on of those gimps making the fear toxin, but slipped and fell in all the comotion when batman comes around to save Rachel.