The Avengers Joss Whedon leading on "Avengers" short list of directors

[bunk]

Yes, he would be better than Leterrier.

 

[flickchick85]

Regardless, better him than Louis Leterrier.

SO agreed. Leterrier can do fine with action, but he's s*** with actors and the other stuff that truly matters. Also, while I realize it's not entirely his fault, I hate the CGI in his films, too. TIH and Titans both have this video game look that I hate. Serenity had a fraction of the Titans budget, but the photography/fx were much more vibrant and alive.

 

[mclay18]

Strange to see so much Whedon-hate. Joss is the boss.

Here, here. Whedon's also had experience dealing with green-screen elements and CGI-intensive sequences with his experience on "Firefly" and Serenity. And he's a director who likes to work on a budget and get it done on time. Along with his track record, that's something Marvel will like a lot (considering that the budget is going to be around $200M at the minimum, with the CGI and stars involved).

If you guys still don't like him, then don't rain on the parade if he is chosen to helm The Avengers. Complain after you see the movie, not before.

 

[Deaths Head II]

Strange to see so much Whedon-hate. Joss is the boss.

I don't get it either. I haven't watched all of Whedon's stuff but I love what I've seen. Astonishing X-Men is what got me back into reading X-Men again and I consider it to definitely be one of the best X-Men runs of all time.

I agree that you can't really tell how well Whedon will mesh with the Avengers. I didn't like Brubaker's X-men run either.

And yeah, he is better then LL. The only reason I would want LL back is if he got Norton to rewriter Penn's script again. But if Whedon is picked he'll probably write his own script or make some rewrites at the very least.

 

[Saint]

Yes, he would be better than Leterrier.

Bunk, I perceive a deep void where enthusiasm should be, haha.

 

[flickchick85]

I wonder if his feelings on The Avengers have changed in the last 5 years, though. I wouldn't want anyone doing this who wasn't thrilled with the project, and last we heard, he wasn't.

So even if he really is near the top of the wish list, there's a strong chance he won't be interested.

 

[Saint]

I wonder if his feelings on The Avengers have changed in the last 5 years, though. I wouldn't want anyone doing this who wasn't thrilled with the project, and last we heard, he wasn't.

Agreed.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Why not?

Because this movie is about the Big 3, Hulk and Nick Fury.

Wow, that's only just a little really sexist.

No it's not.

I don't want RDJ, Hemsworth, Norton and Evans take a back seat role to Wheadon's girl power.

 

[Deaths Head II]

Because this movie is about the Big 3, Hulk and Nick Fury.

So it's only about the male characters. Gotcha.

Astonishing X-Men gave one of the most badass interpretations of the male X-Men I've ever seen (aside from Wolverine, but thats because Whedon was willing to have some fun with him unlike most modern writers). Whedon's take on Cyclops is my favorite of all time. Why people act like Whedon making a strong female character automatically makes her overshadow every other character is beyond me. Especially seeing how female characters are usually treated in super hero stories.

 

[mclay18]

So even if he really is near the top of the wish list, there's a strong chance he won't be interested.

He might change his mind if Marvel gives him enough creative control, and who wouldn't want to pass up the opportunity to work with RDJ, Norton, Evans and Hemsworth? Hell, if I was Whedon and if Marvel offered me the gig to do this, I'd jump on it pronto.

And the payday and recognition Whedon would get for the project would really allow him to see his pet projects move to completion. And if Whedon does get the gig, I'd almost bet money that he'll cast a few of his collaborators (aka actors) alongside the mainstays. Amy Acker and Nathan Fillion, anyone?

 

[mclay18]

I don't want RDJ, Hemsworth, Norton and Evans take a back seat role to Wheadon's girl power.

Who said Whedon's works were exclusively "Girl Power"? Joss is a feminist and he writes solid female characters, but two of his shows ("Firefly" and "Angel") were led by a mostly male cast, albeit women played a key role in both of them. He can certainly write a male-centric Avengers, he has it in him.

 

[ImWithTeamConan]

If Joss were to sign on as only director and not have access to major script rewrites then a lot my fears would be relieved (too much comedy, females taking the charge over the males).

 

[Deaths Head II]

You'd seriously rather have Zak Penn's script be mostly untouched?

Plus I doubt Whedon would like to direct something he didn't write. Especially something from that hack Zak Penn.

 

[flickchick85]

You'd seriously rather have Zak Penn's script be mostly untouched?

Plus I doubt Whedon would like to direct something he didn't write. Especially something from that hack Zak Penn.

Haha, I was about to respond with the same thing. As I said earlier, Whedon's dialogue grates on me sometimes, but at least it's creative, and he's about 10x the writer that Zak Penn is. I'd feel much better if Whedon did get a revision to Penn's screenplay to be honest, because Penn is my single worst fear about this movie. Whedon wouldn't turn it into a comedy for crying out loud, and he wouldn't make Black Widow or Wasp the main characters. That's just ridiculous.

But to be clear, I'd feel better with ANYONE revising Penn's script. I shudder at the prospect of it going untouched.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

And if Whedon does get the gig, I'd almost bet money that he'll cast a few of his collaborators (aka actors) alongside the mainstays. Amy Acker and Nathan Fillion, anyone?

Wasp and Hawkeye. t:

 

[Jake Cassidy]

SO agreed. Leterrier can do fine with action, but he's s*** with actors and the other stuff that truly matters. Also, while I realize it's not entirely his fault, I hate the CGI in his films, too. TIH and Titans both have this video game look that I hate. Serenity had a fraction of the Titans budget, but the photography/fx were much more vibrant and alive.

Serenity is awesome.

 

[marvelrobbins]

As a huge fan of Buffy/Angel,Firefly/Serenity,and Dollhouse I like this Idea.
Remember the Cure storyline from X-Men the Last stand was taken from his
work on The astonshing X-Men.And remember his shows were really
ensemble shows.He Is used to working with several Characters.Him doing It
increases the chance of Wasp and Ant-Man being used.And may I suggest
the possabilty of Amy Acker as The Wasp.

 

[Saint]

Double post.

 

[Saint]

Haha, this "Whedon will make it all about the girls" junk is hilarious. All Whedon has ever done is give his female characters the level of attention male characters get everywhere.

Really, what an absurd complaint. I mean, you know that Angel was about a dude, right? And the main character in Serenity was a dude? Whedon writes prominent male characters as easily as female ones. Hell, he picked up Astonishing X-Men and made Cyclops the coolest guy on the team. The book could have been titled "Cyclops: The Path to Awesomeness."

What's more, would some prominent female characters really kill us? I'm not talking about the role of the women eclipsing the men, but the role of women in comic book movies is, in fact, ridiculously sad. I get a headache whenever the female lead in a film is described as a "Love interest," and this is pretty much the situation for all female characters in all comic book movies, everywhere. "Love interest" doesn't describe a character, it describes a plot device, and the way these characters are used is often creatively bankrupt. It's not a weakness that Whedon can write women who are actually worth watching.

 

[Deaths Head II]

Plus, it looks like the Avengers will probably only have one female main character. And now some people are demanding she takes a back seat to everyone, even Nick Fury (who isn't even an actual member of the team).

 

[flickchick85]

Haha, this "Whedon will make it all about the girls" junk is hilarious. All Whedon has ever done is give his female characters the level of attention male characters get everywhere.

Really, what an absurd complaint. I mean, you know that Angel was about a dude, right? And the main character in Serenity was a dude? Whedon writes prominent male characters as easily as female ones. Hell, he picked up Astonishing X-Men and made Cyclops the coolest guy on the team. The book could have been titled "Cyclops: The Path to Awesomeness."

What's more, would some prominent female characters really kill us? I'm not talking about the role of the women eclipsing the men, but the role of women in comic book movies is, in fact, ridiculously sad. I get a headache whenever the female lead in a film is described as a "Love interest," and this is pretty much the situation for all female characters in all comic book movies, everywhere. "Love interest" doesn't describe a character, it describes a plot device, and the way these characters are used is often creatively bankrupt. It's not a weakness that Whedon can write women who are actually worth watching.

THIS.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Joss on the project most likely means he would do some work on the script.
His work on Angel and FIrefly/Serenity shows he can do male characters.
Plus Buffy was always like a Comic Book more than many TV Shows based on
comics.Plus If this would mean nathan Fillion could end up In a part that
would be great.If Warner Brothers would have supported him and not Joel Silver Wonder Woman probally would have gotten made by now Instead after he left nothing has happened.Plus Even If Black Widow Is the only major
female Character In the film with him Involved she would have a decent part.

 

[Silvermoth]

If Joss were to sign on as only director and not have access to major script rewrites then a lot my fears would be relieved (too much comedy, females taking the charge over the males).

Ah...you're not for real right? You're having a laugh. Either that or you're actually from the 1920s.

 

[djkris]

I like this possibility. If anything, Whedon has proved that he can have believable characters doing unbelievable things, all while having great interactions with each other.

 

[david icke]

What sensibilities?

The guy created and oversaw the first ongoing live action superhero(yes, buffy is a superhero show) tv show that is as good as any ongoing comicbook series has ever been. Up until that point all we had was cheesey crap like Lois and Clark and Batman, or non-ongoing stuff like the Incredible hulk that had very little in the way of fantasy/cb elements.

Buffy and Angel are both awesome superhero shows, as good as any comicbook. I would to see what this guy could do with a big budget superhero movie.
He could take a pass at the script as well, they allowed Ed Norton to re-write Zac Penn's Hulk script, so why wouldn't they let Whedon re-write his Avengers to his liking?

I did not like the tv show Firelfy much, I thought it had a couple of good episodes, but the movie was better I thought. It proved he can handle directing a movie. This would be a step up. He should be given the chance to do a big budget superhero flick like this, it would be a safe gamble I think. A safer gamble then giving Thor to Branagh, considering the state of his terrible attempt at fantasy/sci-fi filmaking with MS's Frankenstein.