Joss Whedon on the villain in Wonder Woman

[Red Mask]

We'll have to wait more and see who this new villain is.

 

[BATFREDDIE]

Goddamnit, I want ARES DAMNIT!!!!

 

[ImperfectIcon]

This movie is going down big time! Wedon is showing his lack of creativity by not using the already established enemies of Wonder Woman. Oh that's right, he wasn't even a fan of hers to start with.

What's next no more golden lasso, only a bandolier full of wooden stakes?

This movie is gonna get impaled alright.

WB take note. Wonder Woman will bomb at the box office. Kill off the Buffyman and find someone who will do the Amazing Amazon justice!

 

[Abaddon]

The new villain:

 

[The Question]

This movie is going down big time! Wedon is showing his lack of creativity by not using the already established enemies of Wonder Woman. Oh that's right, he wasn't even a fan of hers to start with.

Wouldn't coming up with a new villain show more creativity, since he's, you know, creating something new?

What's next no more golden lasso, only a bandolier full of wooden stakes?

Why would he do that? As far as I know, Wonder Woman isn't going to be fighting vampires. Besides, Whedon knows about weapons. He'd probably encorperate some ancient greek style battle axes for the big fight scenes.

 

[Abaddon]

This movie is going down big time! Wedon is showing his lack of creativity by not using the already established enemies of Wonder Woman. Oh that's right, he wasn't even a fan of hers to start with.

What's next no more golden lasso, only a bandolier full of wooden stakes?

This movie is gonna get impaled alright.

WB take note. Wonder Woman will bomb at the box office. Kill off the Buffyman and find someone who will do the Amazing Amazon justice!

Its cool that you can see into the future.

 

[BrianWilly]

Wedon is showing his lack of creativity by not using the already established enemies of Wonder Woman.

...you do realize that this sentence makes no sense, right? If he uses established enemies, then he's being less creative since they've already been created.

 

[Red Mask]

The new villain:

Awww no. It might come off as one of those gods in Xena.

 

[The Question]

You know, I could actually see Glory being a good Wonder Woman villain.

 

[Abaddon]

Awww no. It might come off as one of those gods in Xena.

Like Diana versus Callisto?

 

[Nightwing 52]

This movie is going down big time! Wedon is showing his lack of creativity by not using the already established enemies of Wonder Woman. Oh that's right, he wasn't even a fan of hers to start with.

What's next no more golden lasso, only a bandolier full of wooden stakes?

This movie is gonna get impaled alright.

WB take note. Wonder Woman will bomb at the box office. Kill off the Buffyman and find someone who will do the Amazing Amazon justice!

I can never understand why people easily lose faith in something just because the idea may not seem great. He HAS been a fan hers before signing on for the film, he just isn't a fan of her rouges gallery is all. Also, he's said the lasso will be in the film.

 

[Abaddon]

You know, I could actually see Glory being a good Wonder Woman villain.

Hmm,an airhead demon God(dess) versus an Amazonian super-powered chick?Would be interesting. I have a suspicion that the villain might actually be male though.

 

[The Question]

I can never understand why people easily lose faith in something just because the idea may not seem great. He HAS been a fan hers before signing on for the film, he just isn't a fan of her rouges gallery is all. Also, he's said the lasso will be in the film.

Actually, he's said that he's always been more of a Marvel guy than DC. But he's been reading up on alot of the Perez and Rucka stuff since he got the job.

Hmm,an airhead demon God(dess) versus an Amazonian super-powered chick?Would be interesting. I have a suspicion that the villain might actually be male though.

Maybe. Since the villain is based in Greek mythology, I'm thinking maybe a demi god looking to prove himself.

 

[ImperfectIcon]

...you do realize that this sentence makes no sense, right? If he uses established enemies, then he's being less creative since they've already been created.

It makes perfect sense! Wedon feels he cant use them. Why? Because he's not a fan of Wonder Woman...he does not know them. He cannot use these characters creatively as viable or believable enemies. I bet there is someone out there who "knows" Wonder Woman and can do a better job that Mr Wedon. I hope that there are wise heads in WB to have Wedon step down so he/she can step up.

 

[The Question]

It makes perfect sense! Wedon feels he cant use them. Why? Because he's not a fan of Wonder Woman...he does not know them. He cannot use these characters creatively as viable or believable enemies. I bet there is someone out there who "knows" Wonder Woman and can do a better job that Mr Wedon. I hope that there are wise heads in WB to have Wedon step down so he/she can step up.

But using his own character still shows more creativity, since he is creating something new. And really, why is it a big deal if he uses a new villain? I mean, we all want to have a new story when we see these movies, and not the same storylines rehashed.

 

[Abaddon]

Maybe. Since the villain is based in Greek mythology, I'm thinking maybe a demi god looking to prove himself.

Plenty to choose from. Hopefully a more obscure one.

 

[Nightwing 52]

Actually, he's said that he's always been more of a Marvel guy than DC. But he's been reading up on alot of the Perez and Rucka stuff since he got the job.

True. He's also said that he's gotten a great understanding for the character, which is helping him well for the script.

 

[ImperfectIcon]

I can never understand why people easily lose faith in something just because the idea may not seem great. He HAS been a fan hers before signing on for the film, he just isn't a fan of her rouges gallery is all. Also, he's said the lasso will be in the film.

I seem to recall the Wedon himself said he wasn't a fan of Wonder Woman and doesn't know a great deal about her.

It's like puting a taxi driver behind the controls of a jet fighter...

...we DO have the time to get this right, well sort of...

...So lets stab wedon's project with as much stakes as possible, and kill this frankenstein before it is let loose on the world.

 

[ImperfectIcon]

But using his own character still shows more creativity, since he is creating something new. And really, why is it a big deal if he uses a new villain? I mean, we all want to have a new story when we see these movies, and not the same storylines rehashed.

My fear is that as his little changes pile up, we might wind up seeing Wonder Woman In Name Only (WWINO). That's unacceptable.

No one has ever done a WW feature film so it will be new and not rehashed.

 

[The Overlord]

Dr. Psycho kicks ass, man. Basically, he's a chauvanistic rapist and serial killer with psychic powers. He violates the mind aswell as the body. One ****ed up individual. He goes after Wonder Woman because she represents feminism and woman power and all that stuff that Psycho despises.

While we are on this topic, who do you think would make a good Dr. Psycho? I would say Danny Woodburn:

http://imdb.com/name/nm0940173/

 

[The Overlord]

...you do realize that this sentence makes no sense, right? If he uses established enemies, then he's being less creative since they've already been created.

Perhaps, but why reinvent the wheel, while WW has had some bad villains (the Mouse and Egg Fu) it seems that she has some fearsome villains (Ares and Dr. Psycho) that she has a history with in the comics. So if she has some villains that have been proven to work, why put her against some new villain that people may not like, when you can put her against a villain you know that the fans would like?

 

[Abaddon]

Maybe it just works better with the origin story he's using.

 

[The Overlord]

Maybe it just works better with the origin story he's using.

Well this new villain had better be damn impressive, because in the past all the "original" villains that have appeared in comic book movies have been really lame.

 

[ClarkLuther55]

Whedon making his own villain is more creative. But in an adaptation, "creativity" isn't always a good thing. I'm not going to dismiss this movie as crap already, but I do find it annoying that Whedon wants to make up his own mythology-based villain when WW's real archenemy is an Olympian god. Really, I'm just confused about the thought process in Whedon's head that led him to this decision.

 

[ImperfectIcon]

Whedon making his own villain is more creative. But in an adaptation, "creativity" isn't always a good thing. I'm not going to dismiss this movie as crap already, but I do find it annoying that Whedon wants to make up his own mythology-based villain when WW's real archenemy is an Olympian god. Really, I'm just confused about the thought process in Whedon's head that led him to this decision.

While I don't like Whedon's idea of a new original bad guy I guess the audience as a whole (except the WW fanatics) wont notice it. Let's just hope this is THE ONLY CHANGE that he will make from now on.