Justice League Justice League Box Office Prediction - Part 2

[thebatfan5194]

I think them keeping Superman under wraps was a mistake.
They could have used his resurrection as a selling point. They didn't
really build a lot of hype with this one, in comparison to Batman v Superman.

But if they revealed anything people would say "WB still hasn't learned how to properly cut a trailer. The WHOLE MOVIE IS SPOILED!"

 

[jmc]

We've just had a great year of CBMs. This year is proving franchise fatigue isn't happening when studios get everything or most things right. We've had hit after hit till today, amongst them the 6th Spider-man film and 3rd reboot in 15 years. I mean Ragnarok is still making loads right now as the 3rd Thor film and coming straight after a terrible film. What better candidates for superhero franchise fatigue?

It also helps when they try something different, which they've done reasonable well this year.

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

That we would have to wait how long for? You know this is WB we're taking abut here. Anytime they do something that doen't work they back away from it. I don't want to wait until 2030 for another JL movie. I haven't seen this one yet but I can't imagine that, even if I hate it, I would start going on that it should crash and burn at the BO. That's fourth grader material in its finest.

Wanting something “now, now, now, now!” instead of waiting is literally fourth grader behavior.

 

[Iceman]

I think them keeping Superman under wraps was a mistake.
They could have used his resurrection as a selling point. They didn't
really build a lot of hype with this one, in comparison to Batman v Superman.

I don't think GA awareness of who the members of the JL are is high. It's pretty difficult marketing the film as a huge teamup with one of the 2 big names missing. And side from the recently introduced WW, everyone else is new. It can't compare to the excitement built up by the 5 opening MCU films leading to a teamup of 6 characters the audience knew well by then (5 very well). Keeping him under wraps was just a terrible idea.

 

[KalvinEllis]

Wanting something “now, now, now, now!” instead of waiting is literally fourth grader behavior.

I don't need it "now", but I don't need it in decades either. The cast is great and people like Geoff Johns are working on the slate now. JL crashing and burning literally does noone involved a favor.

 

[DACrowe]

Nolan's first choice was Duncan Jones, who politely said "Thanks but no thanks."

I believe he also approached Matt Reeves before Snyder. There might have been one other too.

 

[Docker2.0]

And now we’re officially in disaster territory:

http://deadline.com/2017/11/justice-league-opening-weekend-box-office-lower-thor-ragnarok-wonder-the-star-1202211094/

97 million projected OW.

That's crazy! It made below half of what the original Avengers movie made. People want to say you are a hater for speaking against Zach after BvS but now there is no denying we were right. The tone for the DCEU is all wrong. There was no difference between Batman and Superman in the original movie. I'd keep the cast but develop solo movies for now. They have talented actors but they need to let John and Timm manage their universe.

 

[legendkillin]

The second weekend drop won't look too bad because of Thanksgiving. The third weekend drop will be bigger than the 2nd weekend drop.

But will people really want to see it during Thanksgiving? Coco is a kid friendly family movie. Thor has been praised, fun, action pack with heart. Those fit Thanksgiving feelings not sure JL does. Plus the movie is getting bad word of mouth in general. Most GA members are not coming onto a message board to find out if they should watch.

 

[Iceman]

It also helps when they try something different, which they've done reasonable well this year.

Often true, but for me just being plain good is enough even if you aren't different. MoS, BvS & SS all tried to be different while JL definitely didn't try! If you execute well you get results whether you're original or not. Ragnarok did amazingly as something not too far off an outright comedy but also might have done well as a more serious well executed film. Anyway I enjoyed JL plenty but something is very wrong when a film that should have similar stature to Avengers is struggling to make $100m on opening weekend.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

This is worrying me not just for dcu but for the genre as a whole what if this the start of the whole "superhero movie fatigue" this is really dissapointing but also very concerning.

This isn't a comic book movie problem. It is a Snyder problem.

 

[legendkillin]

I don't think GA awareness of who the members of the JL are is high. It's pretty difficult marketing the film as a huge teamup with one of the 2 big names missing. And side from the recently introduced WW, everyone else is new. It can't compare to the excitement built up by the 5 opening MCU films leading to a teamup of 6 characters the audience knew well by then (5 very well). Keeping him under wraps was just a terrible idea.

Cyborg is not a founding member and outside of Teen Titans he just isn't big. TT cartoon isn't even good anymore and his personality in that is fun loving. Based off the trailer he seems so brooding and trying to act like Black Panther in Civil War.

I don't care how badass Mamoa is Aquaman has been the butt of jokes for years. That just sticks in some peoples mind though they have tried to change his image in the recent years. Some still see him as the fish talking guy.

 

[jmc]

Here's a sad reality. Marvels all-star team will have made more money in its second weekend than DC's all-star team does in their first.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I cannot believe this might actually bomb

Like, I can.... but still, its the freakin Justice League. Wow.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

I believe he also approached Matt Reeves before Snyder. There might have been one other too.

Reeves was a contender, yes. He was who I would have preferred of the candidates (circa 2010). Snyder initially didn't want it but took the gig after Watchmen and Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole flopped and they already knew Sucker Punch was DOA.

Dude needed a hit to keep his career going - not uncommon and nothing wrong with that. The truth is whoever took the gig knew they would following mandates placed by both the studio and Nolan. Have to leave one's ego at the door and Snyder, to his credit, had no problem doing that. That says a lot about the man right there.

 

[Flint Marko]

Reeves was a contender, yes. He was who I would have preferred of the candidates (circa 2010). Snyder initially didn't want it but took the gig after Watchmen and Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole flopped and they already knew Sucker Punch was DOA.

Dude needed a hit to keep his career going - not uncommon and nothing wrong with that. The truth is whoever took the gig knew they would following mandates placed by both the studio and Nolan. Have to leave one's ego at the door and Snyder, to his credit, had no problem doing that. That says a lot about the man right there.

Wait so he didn't want the movie but had his hand kind of forced?

Oh my gosh, WB.

 

[Willi Berg]

I'm glad Snyder made Man Of Steel.

 

[iEquinox]

But will people really want to see it during Thanksgiving? Coco is a kid friendly family movie. Thor has been praised, fun, action pack with heart. Those fit Thanksgiving feelings not sure JL does. Plus the movie is getting bad word of mouth in general. Most GA members are not coming onto a message board to find out if they should watch.

Thanksgiving is a holiday. More people will show up on the 2nd weekend than if there wasn't a holiday, so that will make the 2nd weekend drop significantly lower than it would have been without Thanksgiving. And the 3rd weekend drop will be bigger than the 2nd weekend drop as a result. Absolutely no doubt about that.

 

[jmc]

Wait so he didn't want the movie but had his hand kind of forced?

Oh my gosh, WB.

Sometimes you take jobs just to pay the bills.

 

[legendkillin]

Sometimes you take jobs just to pay the bills.

Michael Caine does.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Have to leave one's ego at the door and Snyder, to his credit, had no problem doing that. That says a lot about the man right there.

And Man of Steel was all the better for Nolan and WB's moderating presence. Didn't Snyder sculpt Batman v Superman from to top to bottom?

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I still can't believe that they just gave it to him after Watchmen bombed.

Like, were they really that desperate to retain the rights and get just about any director in there? I know everyone else they wanted passed on the project, but they had to have known what they were getting into.

 

[Iceman]

Ironically if you smoke it, The Happening makes sense.

I don't think there's anything strong enough out there for that.

 

[Flint Marko]

Sometimes you take jobs just to pay the bills.

The DCEU was built by someone who didn't even want Superman.

 

[Willi Berg]

And Man of Steel was all the better for Nolan and WB's moderating presence. Didn't Snyder sculpt Batman v Superman from to top to bottom?

Was it him or WB who decided not to make a MOS sequel right away and start setting up a DC shared universe? So instead we got BvS getting stuffed with superheroes. Guess Snyder just saw it as a chance to make his version of "The Dark Knight Returns" .

 

[Jekecy]

I still can't believe that they just gave it to him after Watchmen bombed.

Like, were they really that desperate to retain the rights and get just about any director in there? I know everyone else they wanted passed on the project, but they had to have known what they were getting into.

That would be where team Dark Knight swoops in to save the day. Can you blame WB for entrusting the team which by themselves were already helping on a billion-dollar franchise?