Justice League Justice League Box Office Prediction - Part 7

[InCali]

The ones that get an erection over superficial aesthetic synchronicity to the source material.

The rest of the male population needed viagra.

 

[Limonade]

This page of the thread is perfect.

Edit: Darnit. Pages go by fast! I meant previous page... no offense to future post made on this page.

 

[Patchwork Man]

The ones that get an erection over superficial aesthetic synchronicity to the source material.

There you go talking about boners again. I sense a theme.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I am sorry. Some are still limp but feel a psychological high. Didn't mean to offend.

 

[Playco Armboy]

Justice League now pulling in roughly half of Thor in dailies now. It's dropping pretty hard domestically, I don't think $229 or even $228 million is a sure thing.

It's done. Sub-$660m is happening, it never had a chance of beating Man of Steel.

 

[TheVileOne]

I don't think there is any one single reason for this movie's poor box office. I don't think you can singularly point to lack of Superman in the marketing. The marketing heavily featured Wonder Woman, who was coming off a highly beloved and successful film. So why didn't that help?

 

[honestbharani]

I don't think there is any one single reason for this movie's poor box office. I don't think you can singularly point to lack of Superman in the marketing. The marketing heavily featured Wonder Woman, who was coming off a highly beloved and successful film. So why didn't that help?

I think there is. It's BvS.

 

[TheVileOne]

I think there is. It's BvS.

Again. I think that's one big reason you an point to, but not the only one.

I think a bigger one is they really didn't have a plan for this shared universe, at least one that worked. But again, I don't think there's just one reason. There are a bunch.

I mean regarding Superman, it was a mistake to execute Death of Superman in Batman v Superman at all because everyone knew Superman would be in Justice League and be a part of Justice League. So don't do a weird death fakeout like that. It was so arbitrary as well.

 

[honestbharani]

Yeah.. I agree. But my point was that almost all of those factors can be traced back to the calls made during BvS. JL is basically reaping the mediocre fruits from the seeds sown during the BvS - through all of its production processes (pre-, during and post-).

 

[metaphysician]

The ones that get an erection over superficial aesthetic synchronicity to the source material.

*points up* This. People really, really need to learn to distinguish between actual faithfulness, versus just copying images from the comics. Actual faithfulness depends, first and foremost, and staying faithful to the *characters*. Not the imagery.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Snyder's mind was frozen on the Batman/Superman battle from TDKR. So they had to work backwards from that battle to come up with a narrative for a new film that would be operating on a completely different foundation. You can see how that is the utter opposite of a good way to come up with the story.

So it follows that the story of the film was a wild fire of shock and awe to the system. A sordid necrophilia on the decency of storytelling.

I remember when they started quoting that stupid book when announcing the film. I got nervous in that moment. Somehow it was worse then I imagined.

 

[MbJ]

Yeah.. I agree. But my point was that almost all of those factors can be traced back to the calls made during BvS. JL is basically reaping the mediocre fruits from the seeds sown during the BvS - through all of its production processes (pre-, during and post-).

I still don't know how anyone can pretend that's not the case, and that the negative reputation the DCEU garnered in the lead up to Justice League had no part in it.

 

[InCali]

I still don't know how anyone can pretend that's not the case, and that the negative reputation the DCEU garnered in the lead up to Justice League had no part in it.

Because some people thought BvS was the second coming of The Godfather.... only better and the script was worthy of a work by Dante Alighieri.

 

[TheVileOne]

Yeah.. I agree. But my point was that almost all of those factors can be traced back to the calls made during BvS. JL is basically reaping the mediocre fruits from the seeds sown during the BvS - through all of its production processes (pre-, during and post-).

Yeah but even though Batman v Superman was mediocre and it was the cinematic debut of Wonder Woman, Wonder Woman still did very well and received good reviews. There's exceptions to every rule, but you could potentially argue that Justice League still could've turned out better after Batman v Superman.

 

[honestbharani]

Yeah but even though Batman v Superman was mediocre and it was the cinematic debut of Wonder Woman, Wonder Woman still did very well and received good reviews. There's exceptions to every rule, but you could potentially argue that Justice League still could've turned out better after Batman v Superman.

Yeah, I agree. Although the mistakes were made during BvS, they could have salvaged JL better with more thought and a better more co-ordinated creative team driving it.

 

[All-Father]

Because some people thought BvS was the second coming of The Godfather.... only better and the script was worthy of a work by Dante Alighieri.

The depth is certainly there...

 

[Filmfan93]

I don't think there is any one single reason for this movie's poor box office. I don't think you can singularly point to lack of Superman in the marketing. The marketing heavily featured Wonder Woman, who was coming off a highly beloved and successful film. So why didn't that help?

Not a single reason?

You mean an average BvS, generic trailers filled with terrible green screens, a teaser trailer year and a half before the film's release and promotion of characters that had next to no establishment prior (Aquaman, Flash, Cyborg) ?

 

[Murdock103]

Not a single reason?

You mean an average BvS, generic trailers filled with terrible green screens, a teaser trailer year and a half before the film's release and promotion of characters that had next to no establishment prior (Aquaman, Flash, Cyborg) ?

I think VileOne meant that you can’t arribute the failure to one single thing.
Not that he couldn’t think of a single reason why it failed.

 

[Flint Marko]

I think there is. It's BvS.

I think the vile one is correct in saying that it’s due to a number of different factors but if you were to boil it down to just one..... this is it. Plain and simple. BvS was such a turd that audience’s just knew to stay away.

I’d say the second largest contributing factor would be the terrible trailers.

 

[Playco Armboy]

Justice League's trailers were no different than your standard blockbuster marketing campaign: glimpses of messy action sequences underpinned by pop music remixes. Even Wonder Woman's promotional run was fairly average in that regard. Batman v. Superman had one great trailer at Comic-Con a year from release and was fairly mediocre up until release, that terrible piece in December nonwithstanding.

I can only say Suicide Squad was consistent throughout in sustaining buzz.

Ultimately, it comes down to BvS. BvS is the biggest factor by a country mile. In the week up to launch, I recall Justice League buzz being fairly mild, but not damning. A lot of 'it's fun!' tweets and reactions, only a few days before release where the RottenTomatoes score was revealed via See It/Skip It, did the perception start leaning to negative.

 

[007]

Getting absolutely destroyed by jumanji of all films is just further embarrassing.

Yeah a BVS film was completely the wrong type of film to be made, but don't let that distract you from the justice league being woeful in itself, watched again the other day. Its actually worse on second viewing, some of the things they did were terrible. Just a really bad film.

 

[Limonade]

Justice League's trailers were no different than your standard blockbuster marketing campaign: glimpses of messy action sequences underpinned by pop music remixes. Even Wonder Woman's promotional run was fairly average in that regard. Batman v. Superman had one great trailer at Comic-Con a year from release and was fairly mediocre up until release, that terrible piece in December nonwithstanding.

I can only say Suicide Squad was consistent throughout in sustaining buzz.

Ultimately, it comes down to BvS. BvS is the biggest factor by a country mile. In the week up to launch, I recall Justice League buzz being fairly mild, but not damning. A lot of 'it's fun!' tweets and reactions, only a few days before release where the RottenTomatoes score was revealed via See It/Skip It, did the perception start leaning to negative.

Some regulars here, were on cloud9... just enjoying all the positive buzz initially.

Just like BvS, in fact!

But then once out in theaters... the narrative flipped and it just... man--it just sucked the wind out of everyone.

 

[All-Father]

Getting absolutely destroyed by jumanji of all films is just further embarrassing.

Yeah a BVS film was completely the wrong type of film to be made, but don't let that distract you from the justice league being woeful in itself, watched again the other day. Its actually worse on second viewing, some of the things they did were terrible. Just a really bad film.

I couldn't stomach a 2nd viewing of both movies...

 

[InCali]

I think the vile one is correct in saying that it’s due to a number of different factors but if you were to boil it down to just one..... this is it. Plain and simple. BvS was such a turd that audience’s just knew to stay away.

I’d say the second largest contributing factor would be the terrible trailers.

Not to get too technical, but there are just about an infinite number of factors that determine any outcome. It just depends on how granular you want to get.

To put it simply, if BvS had been really, really well received, JL could possibly have pulled Avengers type of numbers; especially coming on the heels of WW. People (rightfully) saw JL as sequel to BvS and not WW. People gave BvS a chance, gave a thumbs down, and this squashed any chance JL had for big BO numbers.

 

[Timebomb]

I couldn't stomach a 2nd viewing of both movies...

I saw BVS a 2nd time and never again. I refuse to give JL my hard earned money and based on the clips I've seen online, it was the right decision.