Justice League Justice League Box Office Prediction - Part 7

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Sadly, it's just the level of expectation levelled at JL to do £1B+ or be regarded as 'failing', which is BS frankly.
It wasn't the fact that it didn't reach a billion that regards it as failing, it's the fact that it essentially tied what is usually regarded as the worst of the MCU films.
 
Sadly, it's just the level of expectation levelled at JL to do £1B+ or be regarded as 'failing', which is BS frankly.

Not reaching 1 billion I would say would not be an issue...if it made like 900 mil or close to it. This was the LOWEST grossing DCEU film. That is why it is regarded as failing. This film no doubt was the most expensive film they did, and it made the least amount of money. You don't invest what WB invested expecting diminishing returns.
 
Not reaching 1 billion I would say would not be an issue...if it made like 900 mil or close to it. This was the LOWEST grossing DCEU film. That is why it is regarded as failing. This film no doubt was the most expensive film they did, and it made the least amount of money. You don't invest what WB invested expecting diminishing returns.

True.
 
Not reaching 1 billion I would say would not be an issue...if it made like 900 mil or close to it. This was the LOWEST grossing DCEU film. That is why it is regarded as failing. This film no doubt was the most expensive film they did, and it made the least amount of money. You don't invest what WB invested expecting diminishing returns.

Put time and energy into 'believing' in your film and you'll get it back, hang it out to dry and you'll get what they got. Own worst enemies but as it stands it's not a failure, what it 'should or could' have been, it can be regarded, to me anyway, as a sad venture.
 
Put time and energy into 'believing' in your film and you'll get it back, hang it out to dry and you'll get what they got. Own worst enemies but as it stands it's not a failure, what it 'should or could' have been, it can be regarded, to me anyway, as a sad venture.

It's not an issue of could or should. WB did not expect WW to beat this at the BO. You don't invest 300mil to make 650 at the BO. Rule of thumb is movie needs to make double the budget just to break even (they don't get 100% of the tickets from the theaters...theaters take about half that once it averages out), so this movie barely broke even, and home video sales are not what they once were now. There is no sugarcoating the performance of the film: it was a massive disappointment financially by any metric. Liking the movie or not is entirely subjective. But, make no mistake, WB sees this as a failure.
 
It's not an issue of could or should. WB did not expect WW to beat this at the BO. You don't invest 300mil to make 650 at the BO. Rule of thumb is movie needs to make double the budget just to break even (they don't get 100% of the tickets from the theaters...theaters take about half that once it averages out), so this movie barely broke even, and home video sales are not what they once were now. There is no sugarcoating the performance of the film: it was a massive disappointment financially by any metric. Liking the movie or not is entirely subjective. But, make no mistake, WB sees this as a failure.

On every measurable mark as too how to produce, promote and release a film, WB ruined their 'flagship'. They've done well to get £650m+ out of it. Had they released the true version, then maybe we would be having a differing result.
 
On every measurable mark as too how to produce, promote and release a film, WB ruined their 'flagship'. They've done well to get £650m+ out of it. Had they released the true version, then maybe we would be having a differing result.

I don't think Snyder's cut would have done much better, in all honesty. We can speculate all day on what it would have made, and we don't know if the audience would like it more. BvS, which saw much less compromise and course correction than JL, was rejected by the audience by and large. JL's performance I think it in part a reflection of lack of interest based on BvS. Sure, part of it is bad production history, CG faces, replacement directors, etc. But, the film also would have been longer and had less showings per day.

I think JL was doomed regardless of existing cut. The film needed to take the whole line back to formula and delay shooting the movie so they could work on it and make changes BEFORE shooting it. But, they rushed it and we got what we got.
 
Rushing it guaranteed failure, while other methods might have at least given a small chance of fixing it.
 
Aquaman, Flash and solo Batman movie should have come before JL rather than after it.
 
Rushing everything has been one of the key sins of this franchise, IMO.
 
Rushing everything has been one of the key sins of this franchise, IMO.
They took their time with MOS and BvS, still didn't work out for them.

Time is way down the list of their misfires. I'd sooner blame their reactionary attitude as the root cause for most of their faults.
 
They took their time with MOS and BvS, still didn't work out for them.
They may have taken their time MAKING BvS, but the movie itself was indicative of their impatience. Remember, the original plan was a proper MoS sequel and to "get Superman's house in order" before dropping Batman back into things. But MoS disappointed financially and they got trigger-happy.
 
Sadly, it's just the level of expectation levelled at JL to do £1B+ or be regarded as 'failing', which is BS frankly.

A solo Batman film from a decade ago made a billion dollars without China.

A properly made JL film could and should be making Avengers money.
 
They took their time with MOS and BvS, still didn't work out for them.

I was talking more in the sense of worldbuilding. BVS is a movie that tries to cram in Batman, Wonder Woman, Doomsday, the first look at the Justice League, the first tease of Darkseid, and the death of Superman into a single movie, which is only the second ever film of the franchise. That to me reads like them wanting to skip the legwork of actually establishing the heroes before they actually did their big team-up, which sort of defeats the purpose of a big team-up movie in the first place.
 
Aquaman, Flash and solo Batman movie should have come before JL rather than after it.

Of course. Gets exciting just thinking about what might have been if rather than jumping straight into BvS, we'd had MoS2, Reeves Batman, WW2, Flash (not Flashpoint), Wan Aquaman, Cyborg and GLC all succeeding, and then a JL film. For some reason they were obsessed about not being seen to be copying. In that case why not do a much longer buildup of more loosely linked films rather than a shorter one, where you're throwing in things like the death of Superman way too early.
 
I don't think a Batman/Supes movie was a bad idea, it was just executed horrendously

it's like snyder just made a movie so batman could say "do you bleed"
 
I don't think a Batman/Supes movie was a bad idea, it was just executed horrendously

it's like snyder just made a movie so batman could say "do you bleed"

I'd have preferred a Batman solo ahead of time so we understood both of their motivations before going into something unconventional like that. BvS could have worked if executed well. It just wouldn't have been my preferred route.
 
I'd have preferred a Batman solo ahead of time so we understood both of their motivations before going into something unconventional like that. BvS could have worked if executed well. It just wouldn't have been my preferred route.

I don't even mean a vs's movie when I say Batman/Superman movie, I would include that in the execution part
 
I don't even mean a vs's movie when I say Batman/Superman movie, I would include that in the execution part

Take out the Vs part (or the "v" part :dry:), and then I'm all on board. :up:
 
So this officially ended its domestic run on Thursday, with a final total of $229,024,295 (and a 2.44x multiplier).

Worldwide it's at $657,924,295. Might add a little more to that OS, but nothing significant.
 
Aquaman, Flash and solo Batman movie should have come before JL rather than after it.

Aquaman was lucky to be in production before JL came out or it probably would have been cancelled like Flash and Cyborg solo's seem to have been.
 
Flash movie starts shooting this summer, the writers of Spider-Man: Homecoming, who also directed Game Night are set to direct Flash.

But yeah, I get what you are saying here, Aquaman was lucky to be green-lighted before and it is currently in post production phase now.
 
So this officially ended its domestic run on Thursday, with a final total of $229,024,295 (and a 2.44x multiplier).

Worldwide it's at $657,924,295. Might add a little more to that OS, but nothing significant.

Well, at least it edged past Hancock dom. :woot::csad:
 
So this officially ended its domestic run on Thursday, with a final total of $229,024,295 (and a 2.44x multiplier).
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So this officially ended its domestic run on Thursday, with a final total of $229,024,295 (and a 2.44x multiplier).

Worldwide it's at $657,924,295. Might add a little more to that OS, but nothing significant.

So, a JL movie made just over $100M more than an Ant-man movie...smdh.
 
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